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Old 02-15-2017, 02:55 PM   #1
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I know nothing, so I'm asking, thinking about possibly a vinyl wrap on the new build, Can anyone tell me pro's, Con's Life expectancy ? Prep required? Its a big job, and I like paint, the paint on the original reel song build still looks great, but all most killed me. Just exploring the options.

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Old 02-15-2017, 04:15 PM   #2
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You might want to contact Brad (Ifish moniker greenbuttskunk) and ask him all of those questions. That's his business and he does damn good work.
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Old 02-15-2017, 04:21 PM   #3
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You might want to contact Brad (Ifish moniker greenbuttskunk) and ask him all of those questions. That's his business and he does damn good work.
Agreed ..Brad will give you a straight and honest opinion.
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Old 02-15-2017, 04:50 PM   #4
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I can't remember how long Brad told me the product would last but obviously UV rays are hard on plastics so where you store the bot plays a part on longevity.

My favorite thing about the vinyl- we use a turtle wax that sprays on when the boat is wet from washing and then wipes off. It takes 15-20 minutes to do my boat. If I do that every couple of months cleanup is a breeze. You almost don't even need soap.

I assume if I used a paste wax that takes longer to apply my results would be even better.

My only con- gaffs are a little hard on it. No different than a glass boat in the regard. The good news is in 4-5 years I can replace the vinyl and the gaff marks are all gone.

Brad will be at the salt water show in a few weeks according to the vendor list. If you are coming, I'd pick his brain.


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Old 02-15-2017, 07:54 PM   #5
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I also am curious, about boat bumpers scuffing the wrap, or even boat dock bumpers. How durable is it in that respect.
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I also am curious, about boat bumpers scuffing the wrap, or even boat dock bumpers. How durable is it in that respect.


I have clear vinyl over paint. I can see where my bumpers sit if I get behind on waxing. After waxing I can't tell.

I don't permanently moor but leave my boat in a few days at a time.

I'm three years in on my vinyl and like how it's held up.


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Old 02-15-2017, 08:58 PM   #7
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pros and cons. paint is a little more durable if you rub a dock hard, but if you use bumpers its not an issue.
cost of vinyl less than half a paint job, generally.
vinyl does not show chip marks from trailering like paint does.
cannonballs are easier on vinyl than paint.
if you want, we also have a 12mil armor laminate we have used, primarily on out printed wraps, this is 50% thicker than paint protection film on cars.
some guys are old school and love paint, but many sweat by the ease and cost of vinyl. beat it up, its easy to strip and replace.
hope I answered your question.
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Old 02-16-2017, 07:15 AM   #8
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Reel Song, is this that lovely tuna boat you are building in your shop at the Prineville airport?
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Old 02-16-2017, 08:35 AM   #9
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pros and cons. paint is a little more durable if you rub a dock hard, but if you use bumpers its not an issue.
cost of vinyl less than half a paint job, generally.
vinyl does not show chip marks from trailering like paint does.
cannonballs are easier on vinyl than paint.
if you want, we also have a 12mil armor laminate we have used, primarily on out printed wraps, this is 50% thicker than paint protection film on cars.
some guys are old school and love paint, but many sweat by the ease and cost of vinyl. beat it up, its easy to strip and replace.
hope I answered your question.
Brad, give me a call sometime would like you to take a look at this project, I have some concerns about how you cut around or cover welds and such, I want this to be a really classy looking boat. Do you ever get over to central oregon? would you consider doing the job in my shop? would like to discuss the options and get your ideas on tricking this thing out with out going to radical on design, but want it to stand out with out looking like a billboard. I PM you my number

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Old 02-16-2017, 08:39 AM   #10
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Reel Song, is this that lovely tuna boat you are building in your shop at the Prineville airport?
Bill, my shop is just across the hiway from the airport
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Old 02-17-2017, 07:23 AM   #11
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Brad can verify what longevity vinyl he is using. I sell vinyl tapes for industrial applications. 5 year outdoor vinyl is UV and fade resistant. I used it to print my Coast Guard boat letters/numbers on my 2008 Seahawk and still doing well. Some boat rash but nothing unusual. No fade etc. There are longer lasting vinyls available as well.

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Old 02-17-2017, 07:30 AM   #12
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I like vinyl personally.

New look boat every 5 years or so. If you hit something, less expensive to repair vinyl than paint.

I would pick vinyl again if I swapped boats.

(Brad also does my stuff, good guy)
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I have clear vinyl over paint. I can see where my bumpers sit if I get behind on waxing. After waxing I can't tell.

I don't permanently moor but leave my boat in a few days at a time.

I'm three years in on my vinyl and like how it's held up.


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Are there any issues with putting vinyl over paint? I have a painted alumaweld that I'd like to cover in vinyl, but thought I'd heard somewhere that the vinyl would trap moisture and cause potential problems?
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:43 AM   #14
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Brad put clear vinyl over my paint. I was quickly getting tired of the rock chips in my paint from towing. I wish I had bought my boat without paint and just had whatever color vinyl on it that I wanted.
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Old 02-17-2017, 01:45 PM   #15
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Bill, my shop is just across the hiway from the airport
We moved over here to C.Oregon a little over a year ago. Been wanting to come by and shoot the bull with you someday. If Brad does it I can bring the beverages and we can talk while he works

FYI, I had brad wrap a new sled I bought a few years back on plain aluminum (no paint). It was awsome and easy to clean after a trip. I love how you can easily add any image or decal to it with ease. As far as welds go, Brad can describe that a little better but on my sled he trimmed the vinyl at the weld line so the wrap didn't have a bubbly look to it. It looked sharp.

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Old 02-19-2017, 08:43 AM   #16
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Good coat of wax and it lasts and looks good for years, even in Astoria,,, my boat is moored 9 months of the year here
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Old 02-21-2017, 07:26 AM   #17
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What does it cost to do a 18'-20' boat?
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Old 02-22-2017, 11:25 AM   #18
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We moved over here to C.Oregon a little over a year ago. Been wanting to come by and shoot the bull with you someday. If Brad does it I can bring the beverages and we can talk while he works

FYI, I had brad wrap a new sled I bought a few years back on plain aluminum (no paint). It was awsome and easy to clean after a trip. I love how you can easily add any image or decal to it with ease. As far as welds go, Brad can describe that a little better but on my sled he trimmed the vinyl at the weld line so the wrap didn't have a bubbly look to it. It looked sharp.

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Give me a shout, stop by anytime, look forward to it. I think I will probably end up painting again, and adding some graphix over, but still undecided
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Old 02-25-2017, 06:36 PM   #19
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hey reel song, I sent you my contact info, call me and we can talk vinyl, costs, best approach, durability options and such.
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Old 02-27-2017, 12:57 PM   #20
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I think Brad is actually wrapping my boat this week if Haxton's finished what they were doing for me? It's going to be Black background with gray diamond plate and the 12mil UV on top of the graphic's Brad mentioned above. He's exceptionally easy to talk with and figure out what you want in a wrap.

Once Brads done all I have left to do is new electronics and either a bow mounted Minn Kota Riptide with auto-pilot or a TR-1 (really struggling with this one).

Brad, if you want to take some pic's to answer some of Reel Songs questions as you do my boat you have my permission to do so.

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P.S. I will be posting pictures when it's all completed (Motion Marine, Haxton's Canvas, and Coho Design).
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Old 02-27-2017, 01:25 PM   #21
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My dad had Brad do his NR


and I just had Brad do some large NR decals and my reg numbers
does great work
highly recommend him!
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Old 02-27-2017, 03:48 PM   #22
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My dad had Brad do his NR





and I just had Brad do some large NR decals and my reg numbers

does great work

highly recommend him!


Cool graphics, but this is the first time I've seen this boat when it wasn't dragging a salmon over the side.


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Old 02-27-2017, 05:58 PM   #23
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[QUOTE=hookset1;13795233]Cool graphics, but this is the first time I've seen this boat when it wasn't dragging a salmon over the side.


one of my favorite pattern designs. timeless.
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Old 02-28-2017, 09:10 AM   #24
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yeah the old fart that fishes this boat... he's pretty good!
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