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Old 01-06-2017, 12:01 PM   #1
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I was just wondering when the bigger herring start to come into Yaquina bay. Is there a best time of year to get the big ones we use for halibut bait (9"+)?

I appreciate any info on this.

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Old 01-06-2017, 03:10 PM   #2
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They come in for the wine and seafood festival, another four weeks and there should be some.
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Wak is correct. The spilled wine brings them in. The wine also makes them fat and soft and I don't care for them as bait.
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John, I have been wanting to thank you for sending me the halibut summary, I read the whole thing.
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Wak is correct. The spilled wine brings them in. The wine also makes them fat and soft and I don't care for them as bait.

BUT, for a soon to be "I'm on a fixed income". Could you salt them up with some stretchy sting and get them to work?
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BUT, for a soon to be "I'm on a fixed income". Could you salt them up with some stretchy sting and get them to work?
for what purpose? i have not fished the spawners in years, but when i used to, i had no problems turning them into bigger fish at a later date. put them straight from the hook into a cooler full of an ice slurry with lots of salt...they still don't make decent salmon bait, but for halibut and bottom fish, they work well, just bring a few more baits than if you had tough starved herring, they will not be as durable no matter what...but they are fresher, and are free.

summer herring make my salmon bait
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Crab like them too. Just put them in a container or bait bag so they can milk scent.
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for what purpose? i have not fished the spawners in years, but when i used to, i had no problems turning them into bigger fish at a later date. put them straight from the hook into a cooler full of an ice slurry with lots of salt...they still don't make decent salmon bait, but for halibut and bottom fish, they work well, just bring a few more baits than if you had tough starved herring, they will not be as durable no matter what...but they are fresher, and are free.

summer herring make my salmon bait

Yes, for Halibut. Thanks, I will keep all of this in mind.
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Stretchy string em up. Halibut aren't that picky but I do believe that fresh is very important. Caught tons of them on cut that day Hake heads.
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The spawners make perfectly good bait. You just need to know how to process them.

It is the spawn (eggs or milt) that messes up the quality. After bringing the herring home, get a little bitty knife (like the smallest paring knife you can find), and remove the guts / spawn (just like gutting a salmon).

Now proceed with normal processing / freezing. As an option you can soak them in a concentrated salt brine for a little while before freezing.

During / after thawing, soak them in a concentrated salt brine (if you didn't brine before freezing). You now have perfect halibut bait. It must be brined though. The spawn softens the belly. Simply throwing some rock salt in the bag won't get the best result. The concentrated brine soaks into the flesh most effectively.

This same bait does indeed make very good ocean Chinook bait, if you know a particular method of rigging....a method that some of the top west coast trollers from Ft Bragg use.
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The spawners make perfectly good bait. You just need to know how to process them.

It is the spawn (eggs or milt) that messes up the quality. After bringing the herring home, get a little bitty knife (like the smallest paring knife you can find), and remove the guts / spawn (just like gutting a salmon).

Now proceed with normal processing / freezing. As an option you can soak them in a concentrated salt brine for a little while before freezing.

During / after thawing, soak them in a concentrated salt brine (if you didn't brine before freezing). You now have perfect halibut bait. It must be brined though. The spawn softens the belly. Simply throwing some rock salt in the bag won't get the best result. The concentrated brine soaks into the flesh most effectively.

This same bait does indeed make very good ocean Chinook bait, if you know a particular method of rigging....a method that some of the top west coast trollers from Ft Bragg use.
Victorinox makes the perfect knife for it. https://www.tigerchef.com/forschner-...0FIRoCNKjw_wcB

It works best if you leave the Herring in the salt brine and gut them individually instead of draining the brine first, as the concentrated weight of the herring all together in a tub will start the bellies rupturing...
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Victorinox makes the perfect knife for it. https://www.tigerchef.com/forschner-...0FIRoCNKjw_wcB
These knives are close to perfect for razor clams too.
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It works best if you leave the Herring in the salt brine and gut them individually instead of draining the brine first, as the concentrated weight of the herring all together in a tub will start the bellies rupturing...

One thing is for sure: It is much easier to gut the herring if they are chilled, even semi-frozen..... the guts come out in one clean clump.

Therefore, I am in agreement with Mr Slew.
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You gut halibut bait....???? Never heard of such a thing.
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The spawners make perfectly good bait. You just need to know how to process them.

It is the spawn (eggs or milt) that messes up the quality. After bringing the herring home, get a little bitty knife (like the smallest paring knife you can find), and remove the guts / spawn (just like gutting a salmon).

Now proceed with normal processing / freezing. As an option you can soak them in a concentrated salt brine for a little while before freezing.

During / after thawing, soak them in a concentrated salt brine (if you didn't brine before freezing). You now have perfect halibut bait. It must be brined though. The spawn softens the belly. Simply throwing some rock salt in the bag won't get the best result. The concentrated brine soaks into the flesh most effectively.

This same bait does indeed make very good ocean Chinook bait, if you know a particular method of rigging....a method that some of the top west coast trollers from Ft Bragg use.

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No it ain't.........you just couldn't just let it go could you.

Mark, I think Hillary may have time to go fishing with you this year......now thats a troll...........come on take the bait,

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We caught a bunch of spawner herring last year (actually, I think the last two years) and they caught fish w/o first gutting them. Maybe we would have caught more fish with them if they had been gutted, I don't know, but they worked well enough. The milt and roe did make a mess though, esp in the cooler with water, ice and salt. Yes, they were a little soft and we had to be careful using them.
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I think gutting these herring for bait is a lot of work for no gain.

Ron is absolutely right, they can be a bit soft, but not always. One well known river troller caught several chinooks before anyone else got started this year, and when I asked about the current herring jigging he said he was still using his February herring. True story.......

Problems with the bait can be limited by not thawing to early, saving bait till the next day can be done, but not it is warms up.
We put the bait in a cooler, frozen and just take out a few as needed.

Salt is your friend.....

The stuff we used in Alaska looked like it had been ran over with the truck, after being processed for the scales and eggs.

I think gutting them will sure help the sanddabs get started on breakfast.
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That nice tablespoon sized ball of roe, etc, is way too good to waste. Just pop it in your mouth. Great snack.
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Joe have you actually tried herring roe?

I was given a sample once by a herrring buyer, it was terrible. He then gave me some salmon roe to get the taste out of my mouth......it didn't help.
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Joe have you actually tried herring roe?

I was given a sample once by a herrring buyer, it was terrible. He then gave me some salmon roe to get the taste out of my mouth......it didn't help.
Panko the milt sacs and fry them up in bacon grease for a taste treat.
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Joe have you actually tried herring roe?

I was given a sample once by a herrring buyer, it was terrible. He then gave me some salmon roe to get the taste out of my mouth......it didn't help.
Not a chance, ha ha.
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Joe have you actually tried herring roe?

I was given a sample once by a herrring buyer, it was terrible. He then gave me some salmon roe to get the taste out of my mouth......it didn't help.
it's way better if you mix it 50/50 with milt from a ripe male, best served room temp...
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it's way better if you mix it 50/50 with milt from a ripe male, best served room temp...
Yumm . You guys are making me hungry. When do those spawners arrive again in Yaquina ?
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Yumm . You guys are making me hungry. When do those spawners arrive again in Yaquina ?
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April herring for me
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it's way better if you mix it 50/50 with milt from a ripe male, best served room temp...
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Yum! Makes it slide down better. Reminds me of a big, extra juicy July oyster.
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it's way better if you mix it 50/50 with milt from a ripe male, best served room temp...
Then if you are lucky, baby herring will hatch in your belly, and a few weeks later you will expel beautiful red label herring...ready to put on the hook, or vacuum pack for later use.

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Then if you are lucky, baby herring will hatch in your belly, and a few weeks later you will expel beautiful red label herring...ready to put on the hook, or vacuum pack for later use.

Just drop them directly in the live well.
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Here's what I've been doing (shhh secret of the pro's lol ) It all honestly though dump some liquid Brine and tight in the water when they are live with rock salt and it will toughen em up both inside and out!! Blue seems to be my favorite color in years past, but going to try the flo-green and see how it works. Used them for bottom fish to Halibut and crabbing to!! I'm thinking the green/red might be a game changer in the nearshore fishery for Salmon and bottom fish!!

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