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11-20-2006, 11:37 AM
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Ifish Nate
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OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
Apparently fox and the book publisher have both canceled their OJ program and book. hip hip hooray
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11-20-2006, 11:38 AM
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King Salmon
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
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11-20-2006, 11:45 AM
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Tuna!
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
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Originally Posted by jvp
Apparently fox and the book publisher have both canceled their OJ program and book. hip hip hooray
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News Corporation, who owns Fox and Harper Collins cancelled the book and program. I'll admit it, I wanted to see OJ spill the beans. I do understand the uproar, and it'll probably come out on the internet before too long anyway.
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11-20-2006, 11:47 AM
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King Salmon
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
You assume they really intended to ever really show it....instead, how much free publicity did they just get for the book? Tons. Oh well.
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11-20-2006, 11:48 AM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
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Originally Posted by Cool Texan
You assume they really intended to ever really show it....instead, how much free publicity did they just get for the book? Tons. Oh well.
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book is canceled too
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11-20-2006, 12:09 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
Missed that part. In that case, good news for all....except the families that would have gotten to take the $$ away from OJ. Oh well.
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11-20-2006, 05:02 PM
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
I am glad to see the FOX folks finally come to their senses and do the right thing.
I am still retching and gagging at the CNN folks for their recent collaborative broadcasting of the sniper killing of an American soldier.
I think its about time for all our media to start being a bit more responsible.
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11-20-2006, 05:30 PM
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Sturgeon
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
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Originally Posted by roadsend
I am glad to see the FOX folks finally come to their senses and do the right thing.
I am still retching and gagging at the CNN folks for their recent collaborative broadcasting of the sniper killing of an American soldier.
I think its about time for all our media to start being a bit more responsible.
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11-20-2006, 05:38 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
Roadsend. I agree, I think CNN took the sniper thing too far.
On the other hand, I dont think reporting from the front lines is irresponsible journalism. I think the American public (voter) needs to see the horror of war as it happens.
Fictitious depictions by the entertainment industry are acceptable, but the truth isnt?
Makes no sense at all.
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11-20-2006, 06:24 PM
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
" I agree, I think CNN took the sniper thing too far. ....Fictitious depictions by the entertainment industry are acceptable, but the truth isnt?"
Some things which happen in the day to day world are simply not suitable for direct media viewing as are many fictitious depictions.
Is it suitable to show the execution of a murderer?
How about the examination of a **** victim?
How about a gory accident scene?
Several journalists have been killed in the line of duty in various conflicts including Iraq. Do you think CNN would broadcast the death of a journalist?
Where do you supposed that CNN got this video?
I am glad that we both agree on the sniper issue.
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11-20-2006, 06:29 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
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Originally Posted by jvp
book is canceled too
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on the national news, they said that the book will eventually make it out, 400,000 have already been printed
Last edited by Bartman; 11-20-2006 at 06:31 PM.
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11-20-2006, 07:01 PM
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Tuna!
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
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11-20-2006, 07:38 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
Roadsend, Of course a line needs to be drawn. But in the case of war, I honestly dont think it would be out of line to show the American people the consequences of it.
This passed Veterans day, a few threads made it on the board and encouraged what? 6 or 7 replies? I was ashamed.
Im not saying those who support war need to see it and re-evaluate their stance, (though it does make sense to a degree) the subject would certainly lead to another IFish locked thread.
But what good is the media if we are forced to accept their idea of what is worthy as news and what is not ...as well as what might be too graphic or offensive to view when it is a direct reflection of the decisions our country has made?
Wouldnt it be great if television news was truthful, and helpful in an effort to show us and tell us how and why our lives and the lives of others are being effected by the decisions we make? By the decisions government makes?
Instead of telling us all how a drug addict in downtown Portland resisted arrest, why isnt the news telling us all at the same time how we can help clean up our darned streets!?
Why is it we see nothing about Iraq on the news for days, even weeks at a time while more and more of our soldiers die?
How is it ok to send our sons and daughters to war "on our behalf" or on behalf of freedom, but its not OK to show the citizens of this country the result of that decision?
I want the media news to tell me how this country is being run by its government rather than how the government is being run by its country and what we can do to CHANGE that.
I want the news media to quit assaulting the left side of my brain (that was NOT a partisan statement :P)
Id like the news media to step up and show us all whats going on in Iraq, and Afghanistan as it happens. I want the news media to show us how Christian interest groups have influenced the government to ban the distribution of condoms in the HIV ravished parts of Africa where 1 out of every 3 people are suspected to be infected with the HIV virus. And show us the RESULTS of that, rather than the twisted little criticisms and reactions from an opposing group.
Maybe then this country would get off their butts and DO something about these things and many many others if the truth was in their faces on their TVs, and not some stupid x football player who may or may not have killed his x wife and her companion.
I want the media to tell me the uncensored raw truth about issues that effect my life or the lives of others and how we can change them, or I'd rather they didnt tell me anything at all because the effect of what they are telling us now has the same exact result as not telling us anything.
Last edited by RvW; 11-20-2006 at 08:31 PM.
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11-20-2006, 07:46 PM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
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We can only assume that any profit would be given to the families of the deceased as a result of the civil suit.
Small consolation for the loss of their innocent loved ones.
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11-20-2006, 08:38 PM
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
RvW
You appear to be much more willing than I for the media to show "uncensored raw truth about issues that effect my life or the lives of others "
How would you see the media showing video of actual abortions?.
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11-20-2006, 09:10 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
Please.
Im not going to touch that. Abortion is a personal decision. A medical procedure that is protected by a law. Keyword: personal.
But tell me how it might be inappropriate to show a mangled car full of mangled teenagers on the news after they decided to speed and race through the streets.
How is it inappropriate to show the corpse of a drug addict who overdosed on meth or any other drug when trying to convince our kids or anyone else that meth is bad?
Heck the only reason I can gather from the media of why meth is bad is you might end up on the news.
I digress.
Last edited by RvW; 11-20-2006 at 09:16 PM.
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11-20-2006, 09:49 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: May 2002
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
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Originally Posted by Dullhook
We can only assume that any profit would be given to the families of the deceased as a result of the civil suit.
Small consolation for the loss of their innocent loved ones. 
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No, the money was going to Simpsons kids per the agreement. And yes, I'm sure he would've seen the money at some point.
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11-20-2006, 09:51 PM
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Super Moderator
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
"A medical procedure that is protected by a law."
Personal decision or not our laws have had effects, good or bad, for society as a whole. We would simply be showing the truth. It would not be the first time a legal "medical procedure" was shown on TV. All medical procedures are in fact and by law "personal".
But actually I agree with you on this.
IMO at least, we should not show abortions on TV.
But where I might disagree with you is that out of respect for our soldiers and consideration for their families there are some things which we should not show on TV about war.
I also do not believe that we should show video of those who have died tragically in accidents, executions, etc. Again respect for the dead and consideration for their families IMO outweighs any presumed benefit of visually using their tragedy as a bad example.
Another factor in all of these might be the numbing effect that repeated exposure to graphic video has on those who watch.
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11-20-2006, 10:07 PM
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King Salmon
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
I agree its possible that the graphic video would be shocking to some and negate any beneficial result, as well as others who might become conditioned to it. But I think the entertainment industry has effectively numbed us all to a point where most people would have difficulty distinguishing truth from fiction anyway.
In fact, I think we've been conditioned to a point where if its not happening to us, it is inconsequential and not real.
A shame really. The young men and women in Iraq and around the world who die for whatever reason have no way of sharing their experience to encourage other means of resolve.
Theres a program I used to volunteer time to called "Scared straight"
Teenagers were taken to hospitals and shown first hand the effects of drugs and alcohol via patients with advanced stage emphasema. Teens were exposed to people who crippled themselves with intervienous drugs in prisons and hospitals. We saw young adults who drove drunk, and ended up in a vegative state. On and on.
This program was incredibly effective and I think it lends a lot of credibility to my idea that seeing, not just hearing and dismissing the results of murder, and drug use and irresponsible or dangerous driving etc, or more worldly issues such as war, famine and humanitarian neglect would have an equally profound effect on a docile, inactive country that takes its comfort and security and freedom for granted.
Last edited by RvW; 11-20-2006 at 10:10 PM.
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11-20-2006, 10:35 PM
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Super Moderator
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
I remember scared straight. The patients and convicts volunteered for the program. The teenagers exposed to them usually were there as a result of court order.
Not quite the same as TV news.
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11-21-2006, 01:06 AM
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Tuna!
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
I tell you what, if they ever showed the Nick Berg beheading on TV, Americans would be so bent they'd send the whole country over to Iraq. The Government sugar coats things way too much, on top of treating us like imbeciles.
I've never seen anything so ****** up in my life. It's been months and I can still hear that guy scream.
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11-21-2006, 06:54 AM
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Ifish Nate
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Re: OJ canceled/thank you thank you thank you
 our local fox station pulled the plug a day or 2 before corporate fox did.
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