License for sand shrimp

[Crazy Fisherman]

Well I thought I would let every body know, that didn`t already know that you do need a shell fish licese to get sand shrimp. I talked to OSP (Doug Canfield) on the Alsea today and he said yes you do. So I guess off I go for another $6.50 to the ODFW so I can get bait.

Okay let's see here. If you buy sand shrimp at a bait store, like I do, you'll pay about $4 for two dozen. Since they don't last very long it's something you'll do probably every time you go fishing right? Over a years time that will ad up to quite an expense even if you only fish once a week.
You choose to harvest your own shrimp and it costs you $6.50 for the whole year. You can take as many shrimp as you want and it will still only cost you $6.50 a year!!!! So what's the big deal?

[Chromaflage]

No offense, but I have seen the same logic used over and over on this board...a couple more bucks here, what's the big deal? A buck a day to fish, what's the big deal? Etc, etc....Well, let's see, so how much is too much? 2$ a day, $10 a day, $100 a day? An extra $1, $5, etc....I've got a family of 6 - all of us hunt and fish...so...multiply all the increases by 6....now I have to decide who gets what and who doesn't. I'm not spending $130 on Sportspacs for each of us this year...plus another $6.50 ea for crabs and clams. So bag it. You guys that don't mind paying more for everything can have 'em.

It's not just the pay to play - more $ for gas, more $ for everything!!!

My rant for the day.

ORS

[SKP]

I guess I'll crab alone for $6.50, or go with some friends with tags.

I've got three teens and one soon to be teen and my wife, so that's six of us. $39.00 for an annual or semi-annual family crabbing trip just doesn't cut the mustard now. [img]graemlins/1zhelp.gif[/img] This tradition is out the door.

I'll take them kokanee fishing instead.

Don't get me wrong, if ODFW add what they say they will add, great, I'm for it. But it does bite as I'm not loaded with cash like some.

SKP :grin:

[ 01-02-2004, 02:26 PM: Message edited by: Stew ]

[TinyWonder]

I second what OregonRedside said.

Where does it end. [img]graemlins/berry.gif[/img]

The truthfull answer is never... if you let em. [img]graemlins/icon_argue.gif[/img]

Just my gripe for the day.

[FishBowl]

If you like getting bent over by the state at every turn that is your buisness but I think it is getting old having to pay and pay and pay and then have to pay more so that they can enforce
( yeah right) these rules . I have pumped a lot of shrimp before and will probably do so in the future but to say it is only $6:50 is asinine, I am tired of getting it from all sides. I however do agree that it is not a bad deal for those who want to pay.

[ 01-02-2004, 09:09 PM: Message edited by: STGRule ]

[skein]

While I'm in favor of a shellfish tag, I am very much opposed to it being necessary for sandshrimp, i.e. bait. I'd also like to see it required, but included, in a regular resident fishing license. Make it available as a seperate tag for non-residents who may only come to Oregon for shellfish, but do most of their fishing back at home. I'll bet we can get that changed by raising our collective voices and saying no.

I think we can make them listen by finding out who to write to and how we want the actual rule to read.

Pete or ***, do you have any insight about who we might direct our letters to?

Skein

[Fish_N_Russ]

I don't have a problem paying $6.50 for crabs and clams. I have caught many of each and a few crabs will cover the cost of the license.

BUT I think its very stupid that this license is needed for BAIT You can't eat bait, its not like its a marketable good. That is such a trivial thing to have to enforce its ridiculous

[Space]

The Divorce Package just cost me $130.00 bucks this year. I just checked and the shell fish tag wasn't included in the package as previously mentioned. What a crock. I pay enough as it is. I'm with the other ifishers who have large families. This will equate to alot of bucks. I wonder how long it will be before were charged extra to look at the landscape??????

Enough said. Let it goooooo.............


SPACE

[glassblower]

I can see it now for next year, you will need a licence to pick up nightcrawlers in your own yard. I with the other guys, they are $5, $10, $20, $30 dollaring us to death. And if you have a large family it becomes $100, $200, $300 etc. It has just went to %@$# far as I see. I think our state government needs to be put in their place. My family & lots of others do not make a whole hell of a lot of money, I know that some of these guys have got to be in the 6 figure income area to own the fancy new 50k trucks and and 50 to 80k boats, spendy RV's, and all that. that or their selling drugs full time, some rich relitived died and left it all to them, or they hit the lottery. I personaly do not get how they afford it all. If I lived alone in my car I not not afford that stuff. But I guess when you can afford all that the fee's probably don't bother you a bit. I have a family of 5 and wonder how I am going to get grocerys half of the time, let alone pay all these fee's. I tell you what, you guys that think the fee's are all cool can have em. The rest of us will keep saying we think it is wrong. Some of us can not afford all the frills, and if the privilage to fish becomes a frill, only the rich will be fishing, and there are one hellava buch of wealthy people fishing. I figure all the taxes the state hits us for every year is enough. Just my .02

[ 01-02-2004, 08:57 PM: Message edited by: glassblower ]

[choppers]

sand shrimp, what? does anyone know if the shell fish license is included in the sportsman pack?

[Boatdog]

Nope. It's an extra $6.50

[slabhunter]

Just checked the 04 Washington license combonation recieved over the holidays. Shellfish is included . Oregon should follow this example. [img]graemlins/idea.gif[/img]

[Chilly one]

I have a real problem with the Sport/Recreational enthusiasts having to pay for the shellfish research! It should be SHARED with the Commercial fellas as WELL! The commercial crab catch in the Salt is 15 to 20 MILLION pounds!!!! Did they have a new tag or permit? They should bear a bit of the expenses for research 'eh? Think about it! Also why didn't ODFW make a one day crab/shellfish permit so people don't completely turn off to the fee, and we lose all the one day enthusiasts? "Happiness is a Bent Rod!"

[Pete]

I think the research is so we know how many of the critters there are, how many are being harvested and how fast they are reproducing. Essentially, the information necessary to ensure a healthy resource. I'd rather have management based on research results than on unsubstantiated perceptions and misperceptions.

[RJ]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pete:
[QB] I'd rather have management based on research results than on unsubstantiated perceptions and misperceptions.

So Pete, Should we base the Entire State's Perception of Non-Edible Shrimp (bait) on a Group of Students sent out on a Tidal Flat for Samples? Might as well ,the State has sent Students Down Logging Roads In The Middle of The Day Hooting For Owls

Fact is The state Messed up Here, adding Non- Edible Shrimp (bait) to the Shellfish License was Wrong and Maybe with Enough Pressure They will Realize This and correct Their Actions.RJ

[wak'm&stak'm]

Ron, I hear ya man.

I think it has to do with job security, more than wildlife management.

They sold out the blacktail does, and now look at the situation. ( where was that study ) Their Umpqua cutthroat study stopped the old timers from fishing bluebacks on the Yaquina, ( 3 years later they realize they screwed up )..........geez, don't get me started on the practice of shooting pregnant cows. I am sure I could write a book on this subject.

The State needs to good dose of common sense.

I realize, regulation is need, but I still think they are playing into the hands of special interest groups.

[Crazy Fisherman]

It seems to me those of you that don`t think that this is a big deal have way to much money. Myself, every time they raise the price of something, or put a new license on use, it puts the crimps on alittle more on what I like to do the best. I guess before long there will be alot more room on the rivers because alot of use wont be able to afford to fish or hunt any more. Then what`s the ODFW going to do with out or license and tag fees.

[Silver Willie]

I just came up with a great idea. How about those who have too much money and feel this fine, oops, I mean fee, is ok perhaps we can increase it to $7.50. You can give the $6.50 to ODFW and then send the extra dollar to me. I think this will solve the whole problem. You can thank me now or later, I'm not too particular.

[Crazy Fisherman]

Silver willy, I agree, only one thing, how about $8.50 so you get a dollar and I get a dollar. :grin:

[Silver Willie]

That seems ok to me Crazy Fisherman. Hope there are alot of rich fisherman out there this year. Judging by all the $50K boats I saw this fall, I think we will have a good year.

[Crazy Fisherman]

All Right, should we quit our jobs? [img]graemlins/dork.gif[/img] Guess not, got to feed the family. :whazzup: Glad some body can see the light