Black Hooks in Salt @ Salmo ?

tomictime · 03-02-2006, 08:47 PM

OK, certified King killers: Nalu, Mav, Mark MC, 5-Salt, etc..

Bud sent me a couple boxes of nice sharp but BLACK gami's to rig baitbusters up with...

Red and Nickle are my top choice.

I use Black super-mutu for Hali.

What do you think ????

JD

Bendman · 03-02-2006, 08:55 PM

I personally Love the Black Gami�s. If I remember right Maverick uses the red ones. He�s online so he�ll probably respond. In all truth I don�t think it�s makes a damn bit of difference what color your hooks are.

tomictime · 03-02-2006, 08:57 PM

tell that to Sockeye..I speak to them while they are on the barbi..all 14 of them...color matters.

U might be right...

JD

Bendman · 03-02-2006, 09:11 PM

My limited experience with reds is they are very finicky. All the really good Chinook fishermen are hauling ball�s at 3 knots or better so I have a hard time believing that a hook that is mostly buried inside a hoochie is going to make a difference. But heck I could be wrong I do it all the time :tongue:. Black Gami�s is all I use because it�s all that I buy.

Mark Mc · 03-02-2006, 09:12 PM

Well...JD you know darned well that sockeye are an exception....what other fish bites a bare red hook better than anything else?

With ocean chinook, whether trolling or mooching I am hiding much of the hook in the bait. And with a hoochie the skirt is over the hook. So I really don't think it matters much, except if it makes the angler feel better

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Now with spoons, that might be an interesting experiment. I've always used either a stainless, nickel, or partridge (tinned) hook. The weight of the hook, and its influence on spoon action, is the important thing.

Bendman · 03-02-2006, 09:16 PM

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I really don't thin it matters much, except if it makes the angler feel better

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I think that pretty much sums it up mark.

Salty Walty · 03-02-2006, 09:21 PM

Trade them for Owners?

tomictime · 03-02-2006, 09:23 PM

..I know it was not really fair...so I will retract MOST of it....well except for the barbi talk...Coho LOVE red..and in the right water/bait - Krill, so do Kings. You may be citing deep King fishng in clear water..Half my work is in 75' water fishing 20-30' down.

I did mention that these particular hook will be on a baitbuster..aint no hiding anything there..., hence the question..

Finally, I think any one variable is not a big deal..BUT I pay attention to details and try to stack MANY that seem to work together...90% of the fish are caught by 10% of the detail oriented fishers..Yep, Speed is a variable, I watch it like a hawk. I would agree, most people fish too slow for Kings.

Indy of the answers, I am going to run them..just wanted mojo groove feeling from a few of you, inc Bendman :smile:

tomictime · 03-02-2006, 09:26 PM

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Trade them for Owners?

Actually, IF you make a $5 donation to Ifish and pay USPS shipping, I will send you a Fat package of Owner 4/0's in Red..eye is too small for the 50# TF I use, scuffs up the leader just a slight amount..

details, all about details..

ifish wins. Send me PM and they are yours.

JD

tomictime · 03-02-2006, 09:28 PM

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I really don't thin it matters much, except if it makes the angler feel better

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I think that pretty much sums it up mark.

Anglers that feel better, catch mo fish ?

Nalu · 03-02-2006, 09:39 PM

I would typically use red or nickel on the Gami, but have been using more of the Owner cutting point. I agree that the 4/0 eye is a tad small, but I find the 5/0 fine.

Perhaps it is because I am not as meticulous, but I have found the Owners to hold up better in the salt than the Gamis.

Salty Walty · 03-02-2006, 09:59 PM

JD, Thanks for the offer but I too am a 5/0 guy. Now when I was a bit younger a 1/0 Owner threaded into an anchovy and mooched in a good school of fish. A few tugs, pick up the rod, drop the tip, a few more tugs, reel down, feel the weight, set the hook. One chinook with a 1/0 ulcer.