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Old 08-08-2000, 07:26 PM   #1
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why are you people on tribes back for salmon fishing?They deserve so much more then what white people gave them. Anyone ever heard of ceilo falls? That is one of the saddest stories ive heard. We took the culture away from the indians, they celebrated the salmon returning like we celebrate christmas. How about we cant celebrate christmas. We polluted the columbia with trojan and hanford. Stay off the tribes back its truly sad what happened to the indians, they deserve about 10 times the amount of fish they are "allowed"
 
Old 08-08-2000, 10:33 PM   #2
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10 times 50%??That math dont work!!!!!!!
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Old 08-09-2000, 07:05 AM   #3
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Yo serial, I thought you were going to change
your moniker. I kinda like living a couple
hundred miles down stream from Hanford, it's
a real comfort. I would suggest a better
choice of words, "you people" is probably
something to avoid. The only thing I object to as far as the Natives are concerned or
commercial fishers in the Columbia, is the
method. It's crazy to think the fish we
are trying to protect have a chance as long
there are gill nets being used. The pictures
I've seen of Celio, have people in them using
dip nets. I share the river above Bonneville
in the fall and have met some of the native fishers and found them to be friendly and personable.
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Old 08-09-2000, 07:49 AM   #4
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And it begins!!!!
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Old 08-09-2000, 08:33 AM   #5
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any ideas on how to circumsize it before it grows to big.
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sounds like you speek from experience
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SLOTH...is that you ? boy we missed you...welcome to ifish
There goes the neighborhood right down the crapper???
But hey climb up on table and I'll hook you up too

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slap my wife across the mouth, and yell bad indian

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I agree with the wisdom you brought forth in your post here Jerry! And let's do cool it guys and help make this BB special. Thanks. - RT
 
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RT, you really need to shut this post down now. I came over here to get away from these "flare up" type posts. But, just to put it flatly to killer I'll say this. In EVERY culture around the world from the dawn of time cultures/civilizations have been conquered and changed. Usually the standard is to either completely extinguish the people or make them slaves. The US basically conquered the tribes, and actually signed treaties with them. In most cases across time, there would have been no treaties if a war had been won. It would've been we have it all, you have nothing. It's very surprising that the tribes received sovereign nation status and receive benefits and breaks at all. Just think of the Indian tribes from central america/Mexico. The Spaniards didn't give them much of a break. The list goes on and on. Plus, pollution and screwing up natural beauty and resources occur ALL over the world. I've lived in Germany and traveled over Europe and old Eastern Block Europe before the wall came down. The Russians completely destroyed and demolished complete towns for their benefit. Germany strip mined millions of acres in northern germany for iron ore and such leaving big gaping scars in the midst of beautiful old cities. To say we're the ONLY ones who have done something wrong and to finger point at us is an ignorant thing. Before one can truly make a comment one should do some research in history and then respond. What needs to be done is to come to CURRENT status of life and to upgrade things accordingly. Contracts signed over 100 years ago don't fit into todays standards. Alot needs to be changed. BUT, we as a people (Native Americans AND US Citizens) need to work TOGETHER rather than fight each other. I have my biases, I won't lie since I grew up on the Puyallup Indian Reservation and have alot of friends who are Native Americans. But, if things are to change, it needs to be a MUTUAL thing. There's always gonna be conflict, so unless someone comes to an agreement, then nothing will change. Example, the sportsmen who's dollar helps fund the fisheries are the ones who get the biggest limitations when it comes to runs of salmon/steelhead. Yet, at same time, the Native Americans get more then an ample share of the fish that are SUPPOSED to be off limits so they can spawn and strengthen the run. So, to finger point as was down off the original post was nothing more than a way to turn this wonderful place into another Bob's BB or pure ignorance.



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