Help revoke PETA's tax exempt status

[Norm]

Over 122,000 signitures on the petition so far

Link

[gottafish]

One more now LOL

[duckboy]

done! thanks

[fishncliff]

122,815

[bajadan2000]

122,885 and counting

[traks44]

122,965 :smile:

[nwsoftball]

122,964 now Maybe more, depends on how slow I was and how quick traks44 was.

[Limbhanger]

122,980

[Bugle4em]

122,983

[baltz526]

i'm not a peta supporter, and i dislike everything they do. but unless they are breaking nonprofit exempt rules of operation. i have no reason to want them to lose there tax exempt status. what is the point of signing a petition for removal of this tax exempt status, unless they are in noncompliance with the rules? i know the motive you all are using, but unless you provide documentation to support the fact, peta is breaking rules, i'm in agreement that peta should be allowed the use of the same tax exempt status that a lot of the groups i support use.show me your proof, and i'll jump on this petition with you.

[rimrock]

I thought the exact same thing. Could anyone please provide a link or the reason why PETA is being petitioned to lose their nonprofit exemption?

Just because I disagree with someone or a group doesn’t mean they aren’t entitled to the same rights as any other group in America. That’s why we live here.

If there is a valid reason I’d be all behind it.

[bajadan2000]

I thought the exact same thing. Could anyone please provide a link or the reason why PETA is being petitioned to lose their nonprofit exemption?

Just because I disagree with someone or a group doesn’t mean they aren’t entitled to the same rights as any other group in America. That’s why we live here.

If there is a valid reason I’d be all behind it.

Several weeks ago there was a link to the proof posted here and was removed in about 30 minutes.

It is a link to a video put together by Penn & Teller. The video can be still found if you google "Penn & Teller BS (spell out) PETA video". Watch it and see what you think about PETA. The video is over 15 minutes long so it may take some time to load.

[duckboy]

It says why in the article

" PETA's tax-exempt status was granted by the U.S. government on the basis of the group's willingness to conduct itself in a lawful fashion. We believe that PETA has failed to live up to its end of the bargain, and that the Internal Revenue Service should cancel PETA's tax-exempt status.

And PETA's leadership openly advocates breaking the law. Click here (in the article) to listen to PETA vegetarian campaign director Bruce Friedrich encouraging activists to commit arson against restaurants, medical laboratories, and banks.

In 2003 PETA collected over $24 million from Americans, avoiding over $3.5 million in federal income taxes. Because this tax break amounts to a huge subsidy, every American taxpayer is footing the bill for PETA's behavior"


That is the reason behind the petition.

[Don Becker]

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[Crayfin]

123,066

[rdbnz84]

done and forwarded

[Blue Tip Spinner]

123,088 signatures

[Hookset]

123,095

[rimrock]

Thank you very much I appreciate the information.

I will dig into it some more. My question still being is it the leadership or someone in an official capacity making these statements or were they acting independently of the organization. In other words is this the official position of PETA or was it just over-zealous individuals related to the group. That’s a big difference. I don’t think well of PETA at all, but if this was simply over-zealous people and not the official position of the organization PETA didn’t break any law or agreement.

Thanks again for the information it’s a good starting point.

[bajadan2000]

Thank you very much I appreciate the information.

I will dig into it some more. My question still being is it the leadership or someone in an official capacity making these statements or were they acting independently of the organization. In other words is this the official position of PETA or was it just over-zealous individuals related to the group. That’s a big difference. I don’t think well of PETA at all, but if this was simply over-zealous people and not the official position of the organization PETA didn’t break any law or agreement.

Thanks again for the information it’s a good starting point.

Please watch the video. IMHO the leadership looks darn bad after you look at all the evidence. Who signs the checks.? Follow the money.

[Triple T]

Done. Thanks for the post

[nwsoftball]

Watch the video. If the info Pen & Teller have is correct, the problem with PETA starts at the very top.

[Norm]

Bottom line is PETA is utilizing their tax exempt status to funnel $$ to domestic terrorist organizations like the Earth Liberation Front and the Animal Liberation Front. Search around, there is a lot of news stories from the major networks on this subject.

PETA president admitted to giving ELF $1500 for a specific program. Although PETA will not disclose the program.

PETA also has given over 100K defense fund for ALF members accused of acts like fire bombing reasearch facilities.


I think any organization that sponsors or defends any type of domestic terrorist organizations should not be allowed to operate under a tax exempt status.

[sunshinefisherman]

Done
Now if someone could get a petition to revoke the taxpayer funding of the ACLU . . .

[Opportunist]

I am a hunter. PETA is anti-hunting. They are my enemy. If I can cause discomfort within PETA by an investigation by the IRS, Great! Filled out the petition! They don't care about false statements and attacking one of my passions! This is a HUNTING forum! Off my box now.

[rimrock]

Well IMO I don’t feel just because an organization is against what I believe they should be simply dispensed with. Yes, this may be a philosophy used by someone like PETA, I don’t really know, but that doesn’t mean we follow suit. America is about freedom to express, but within the law. I found the below quotes with a bit of research even from pro-PETA sites which I believe confirms supporting this petition. I appreciate the information people sent me and the response to my questions. Thanks.

For anyones information and review:

Jerry Vlasak, spokesman for PETA's medical front group (the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine), had this to say: "If someone is killing, on a regular basis, thousands of animals, and if that person can only be stopped in one way by the use of violence, then it is certainly a morally justifiable solution."

When Vlasak addressed the "Animal Rights 2003" convention, he openly endorsed the murder of doctors who use lab rats and other animals in their research: “If these vivisectors were being targeted for assassination, and call it political assassination or what have you ... I think that strictly from a fear and intimidation factor, that would be an effective tactic. And I don't think you'd have to kill -- assassinate -- too many vivisectors before you would see a marked decrease in the amount of vivisection going on. And I think for 5 lives, 10 lives, 15 human lives, we could save a million, 2 million, 10 million non-human lives.”

At the PETA sponsored Animal Rights 2005 convention that "Home demonstrations" in which activists terrorize targeted Americans and their families at their homes in the middle of the night "will always cause psychological trauma to their targets, and if that's what it takes to shut down HLS, let's have more of it. Excuse me if I shed no tears." HLS stands for Huntingdon Life Sciences, a biomedical research firm engaged in the hunt for cancer and AIDS therapies with the use of laboratory animals.

There is more I could quote but I feel that is enough to warrant supporting the petition. Thanks again.

[Lucky one]

Wow rimrock, great find. Those quotes don't make me want to just sign a petition, it makes me want to but some of those people in jail. That attitude is sick.

[Rank Amateur]

Add 1 more vote.

[BrianMaguire]

Wow - those quotes that you posted Rim are deeply disturbing. Another signature added.

[Pete]

Before you sign, take a minute to investigate the the Center for Consumer freedom. It's owned by Rick Berman, a lobbyist for a variety of industries. Reportedly, one of his "axes to grind" is "over fishing". Google the company name and see if it really is what you think! I'm not sure I'd be comfortable giving him any information about myself.

[baltz526]

i did some research on this; (Center for Consumer freedom. It's owned by Rick Berman, a lobbyist for a variety of industries.) he and his group appear about as bad as peta, just under a different agenda.it looks like they are using what they learned from having their tax exempt status challenged, and turning it on peta. just google it and pandoras box opens. just mud flingers flinging mud, the bunch of them.

[duckboy]

fine by me if someone throws mud on PETA, even if they have an agenda fueled by money from outback steakhouse and coca cola.

Heck,

If i worked at outback steakhouse or coca cola, then I guess all of my agendas would be financed by them. Right?

Besides, even if it was the devil himself trying to revoke PETA's tax status, i'd still back it.

No matter who is on the committee (good or evil) it does not change that PETA is backing terrorist efforts and evildoing with my money (all yours too)

[rimrock]

I think what Pete & Baltz are saying is good and are wise points to bring up and it’s not that I’m refuting those points at all, just a little perspective. I did look at the site sponsor we should always do that and like normal they were not “perfect”. This group represents the food industry which no doubt has an ax to grind with PETA and I would imagine the fur industry would also for example. Similarly I support the NRA but I don’t believe the right to bear arms means the general public should have the right to military style assault weapons, various types of ammo, and many things the NRA supports I find extreme to say the least – they are not “perfect”. And yes again it is very wise to research petition groups and you will find things one agrees with and things one won’t and that’s fine. Ya know even some of the “greenies” at times have good points too.

As for information about myself I never give all of it so I don’t know if mine even went through. And even if some people did you have absolutely no need to worry. I can Google my name or do one of those people searches and all the same things with my address, phone, email and all comes up. It’s all out there and it’s even on my checks I right with my signature and bank number which is at the bottom of every check (that’s the nature of checks ). What’s important is the CRITICAL info never to share no matter what: SS#, driver’s license…and the like.

One time I even did a Google on “rimrock” and my real name came up :tongue:, not a big deal.

[ehunter]

Rimrock your right about the info I never give a e-mail address unless I want to spamed to death or correct phone number unless I want to talk to them. I always worry about giving too much and I wondered about these guys. But it's Peta... :grin:

Good info thanks

[Don Becker]

I was suspicious anyway but, the validity of it all came into question, in my mind, when I entered only my name and it was accepted. If the petition is valid, what good is a name only? Don

[baltz526]

what the going rate for email addresses, a nickle each i heard. 120,000 x $.05 =$6000.00 not bad for posting an inflamatory petition. i'm not saying this is what is happening, but it could be.

[BJS]

Great Info Rim. Ya do man.

I think it is a win/win deal. If the petition causes problems for peta GOOD! Man I cannot believe some of that stuff they should be in JAIL!!!! If it’s not than so what nothing top secret about my name and address. I used to collect hand signed petitions and if someone just put down a name or didn’t fully complete the form then that name was taken off the formal petition. There is no other cloak & dagger mystery about it a petition is not the boogie man ya know. IMO people can get worried over nothin'. I got paid yes, but for every valid signature!

As for the site and that Rick Berman cat. I did some of my own checking and the dude seems to be a big time lobbyist. I found some stuff official records of him giving testimony before the U.S. Senate about Peta so the guy is the real deal no doubt. Good for him, I hope he sticks it to them and if my name helps ya darn right. If not no harm either. (But I’m hopin’ for the stickin’ part they belong in prision man support killing people over animals that [petunias!] me off).

[earlybird007]

124,166

[Gary T.]

124,169 Watched the video. My opinion, PETA is not what Congress had in mind when they created tax exempt status.

[Tyeehunter]

124,829 Now, lets tell as many people as we can!!!!

[baltz526]

124,829x$.05=$6,491.45 anyone get a new batch of spam email yet.this is not a jab, just an honest question. for my own benefit!

[bajadan2000]

124,829x$.05=$6,491.45 anyone get a new batch of spam email yet.this is not a jab, just an honest question. for my own benefit!

Not yet, however, if anyone wanted your e-mail address to sell, all they would have to do is go to your profile on this site and look at Bio. :tongue:

[Kootenay]

124,873 signatures