Mathews Outback

buckgtr · 02-04-2004, 10:58 AM

Hey!
I'm curious if anyone has had a chance to shoot the new "Outback" bow from Mathews. I have a LX and love it, but I do have to admit I like the idea of a shorter axle to axle bow.

Buckgtr

Mello-Yello · 02-04-2004, 02:17 PM

You already have a 'shorter' bow. Right now, Mathews doesn't have a better bow than the LX, IMHO (and the opinion of the Mathews Reps).

BTW, I don't own an LX, I own a Q2XL. I went with the Q2XL specifically for it's longer length (rather than the Q2). I don't believe a couple inches shorter realistically makes it any easier to pack around, and with length comes forgiveness.

The trade shows are over, and what you see is what you get until next year. If you do decide to get the Outback, don't trade off your LX.

tailchaser · 02-04-2004, 02:45 PM

I actually have an LX ordered and on the way for target shooting this coming year, but I'm not sold on the Outback just yet. Every year they get shorter and shorter. However, you start giving up too many intangibles when you do it (brace height). Maybe they've solved the brace height deal, but we'll see. I intend on shooting one here soon and will let you know what I find.

Hey Mello are you going to the state shoot coming up here soon??

tc

Mello-Yello · 02-04-2004, 02:57 PM

You mean the State Indoor? Nah, not likely. I've never done the indoor thing, though I'd like to. I wish we could get enough folks around here interested in it.

I might run down there though just for fun. Seven Feathers looks like a fun place to spend a weekend. I went down last year for the day. Watched the competition, sat in on a few seminars. Jim Horn will be guest speaker this year. You see him on many of the TRUTH videos w/the Primos gang.

If you want to see the top shooters in the state, this is the place.

buckgtr · 02-05-2004, 05:47 AM

Thanks for the info. I think I have the "grass is greener on the other side" syndrome. I will be shooting the outback within the next few weeks and will let you know what I hear, feel and think of this new bow.
Buckgtr

Mello-Yello · 02-06-2004, 03:27 PM

I know what you mean by "the grass is greener". When you go to a top-line bow, and get serious about shooting, you see an incredible improvement in shooting ability. From there, the improvements start to become less noticable. Next thing you know, it seems like the once-new bow doesn't shoot as good as it used to, and you start looking around at what else is out there.

IMHO, what's really happening here is your expectations have risen to a new height (granted, you could be having some problems with your equipment or shooting form). What used to be incredible shooting (by one's standards) is now just so-so shooting.

The Mathews reps are still saying the LX is the best bow they have out right now.

Now go apologize to the LX. You've likely hurt its feelings, and unless you want it to give you problems, go do it now. It will understand...Mathews bows are very forgiving.

nitrobass · 02-06-2004, 04:46 PM

The LX is a great bow, VERY forgiving. I've had mine a year now and plan to have it a few more. The only negative I see in it is its weight, which the Outback was supposed to reduce(but I havent seen one to confirm it). My dad's been shooting an AR bow the last year and its a quality bow too, and really light. A bit small for my liking but good bang for your buck.

PSE has a sweet new bow out thats selling cheap, like 450 bucks with quiver and sight.

How many months 'til we can play again??!?!

glowball · 02-06-2004, 07:20 PM

IMO I think the legacy is far and away mathews best bow to date. The lx is a little louder and something about that cam just rubs me the wrong way. I shoot a hoyt bow and love it, but I do like the mathews bows as well. Most of my hunting buds still shoot em. They get mad though when I kick there buts at the 3d shoots with the hoyt. Kinda a ford chevy thing I guess.

I'd stick with what you've got unless you've got some money to burn.

Jignfloat · 02-15-2004, 10:53 AM

I know several guys who went from Legacys' to the LX, and back to their Legacys' in record time. THey didnt like the LX nearly as much. I have a LEgacy and an Icon...and cant immagine being able to shoot any better with any of the new bows. Marketing and impulsive buying is what makes these manufacturers money. In my opinion, nothing exciting has developed technologically speaking in the last couple years.

Russ

nitrobass · 02-15-2004, 02:55 PM

From a Legacy to an LX and back? Strange. I've shot a couple different Legacy's and the pull for both was not nearly as smooth as on the LX. Once its drawn I have no doubts its very accurate, the technology in those is awesome.

Sharted · 02-15-2004, 07:39 PM

Matthews make some great bows, Don't limit yourself to one manufacturer. There are some bows out now, that are as good or better. There are some manufacturer's in the NW that make some awesome shooting equipment. Support our economy!

Just Fish · 02-17-2004, 05:47 PM

I like the way my LX shoots I have shot a few 300 rounds this winter I have a conquest 2 that is a nail driver.I shot a very good score at The Dalles 3D shoot last weekend.The outback should be a sweet hunting bow.

Fish Hawg · 02-17-2004, 05:51 PM

I bought my legacy when it first came out now it is out dated. They are like computers soon as you buy a new one it is all ready out dated

ellusivebull · 02-20-2004, 08:50 PM

I own an LX and I wouldn't trade for any other bow. They are smooth, quiet, and shoot accurate when they are tuned right. Tack drivers. Personally I don't think you would gain anything by going to the Outback.

Mello-Yello · 02-20-2004, 09:19 PM

Fish Hawg, your Legacy is by no means out-dated. It's not the newest bow, but it's certainly not outdated. If you want the newest bow, with the newest technology, you'll have to buy a bow pretty much every year. You sound dissappointed, don't be! You still have a top-of-the-line bow capable of keeping up with anything on the market(accuracy wise).

I have a buddy that's still shooting his original Conquest, the bow that truly made Mathews name. It's a game killing machine (and so is he) and shoots no different than it did the day he bought it.

The majority of top-end bowhunters still say, regardless of equipment, 280 fps is about right for broadheads. Anything faster and you're fighting your broadheads. I agree completely...

M-Y

gottafish · 02-21-2004, 06:37 AM

I have a feather max. and its old now but the only thing is I cant emagin a better bow. the thing is like a rifle now. it almost isnt bow hunting any more.

Fish Hawg · 02-21-2004, 08:33 AM

How can I get a liter arrow. I use a 70# bow (legacy) w/ a 31" arrow 2317 xx78 grand slam 125 grain tip. and it weighs 640gr :shocked: my bow shoots it @ 230+ fps how can I get the speed up?

I know the KE is some where in the 70 ft lbs of energy. Thanks.....Ross

ellusivebull · 02-21-2004, 03:09 PM

Hawg, I am set up about the same as you (30.5" draw, 70# pull) except I am shooting 2315s and 100gr broads. I am near 245 fps. I have thought about going lighter to gain speed but I don't want to loose the advantage of energy down range. Those are my thoughts anyways, maybe they are wrong.

nitrobass · 02-21-2004, 06:12 PM

I used to shoot 70+ pounds with a 31" draw and shot 2514 shafts. They handled a big broad head great, and got me a little more speed. Biggest advantage was how the broad shaft stabilized broadhead flight. I shot a lot of elk and deer with those and they always worked great. Biggest disadvantage to going to a thinner metal is the bent arrows - basically if you missed anything the arrow was probably damaged.

Mello-Yello · 02-22-2004, 05:46 PM

Fish Hawg,
If you want a lighter arrow, you only have a few options.

1. Go to an overdraw. This allows you to shoot a shorter arrow. I don't advise this however, as an overdraw if very sensitive to wrist torquing.

2. Use a lighter broadhead/tip. This will help a bit, but be careful you don't mess up your 'front of center' i.e. the front half of your arrow should be at least slightly heavier than the back for good arrow flight.

3. If you go with a lighter broadhead, you may be able to also go with smaller vanes. Large broadheads typically require larger vanes to keep the rear of the arrow directing your arrow (rather than the broadhead).

4. Go to carbon. Hands down this would be my recommendation if you want a lighter/faster arrow. IMHO, you aren't giving up enough kinetic energy to make that much difference, especially if you're pulling 70" @ 31".

Since going to carbon I've never considered going back to aluminum. The prices have dropped substancially in the past few years which makes them much more affordable. Most shops will let you buy half-a-dozen at a time, so why not fork over a little dough and give them a try. I think you'll like them too.

M-Y

Fish Hawg · 02-22-2004, 08:40 PM

Thanks for all of the help. I might try some carbons. What brand should I get for a hunting arrow.

I also would like to upgrade my rest. I have a cheaper cavalier dual prong rest. I thought about geting a drop-away rest. What would be a good rest for my setup. I'm still prety much a Novice. Thanks....Ross

ellusivebull · 02-24-2004, 11:35 PM

Hawg, I have a drop away and love it. You just throw the arrow on and away you go. Easy simple and fast. I have the Shaky Hunter model but can't remember the brand right of hand. It is great, easy to adjust, stout, quiet, everything a guy would want.

Joey

Sharted · 02-26-2004, 06:39 PM

The fall away rest you have mentioned is made by Trophy Taker. You might also want to look at the Dalton rest, it seems to work very well also.

[ 02-26-2004, 07:42 PM: Message edited by: Sharted ]

glowball · 02-27-2004, 04:28 PM

I would highly recommend the trophy taker rest. Very good rest. As far as arrows go if you don't mind the price easton ACC are some of the best. I shoot gold tip 5575 arrows and I've had very good luck with them.
kris