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01-02-2006, 06:42 AM
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Tuna
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Ford Brake specialist???
I recently purchased a 93 F250 4x4 Heavyduty.
The front disk brakes seem to be taking all the load and the right front was locking up...truck has ABS sytem.
I checked the rear and adjusted them out and all was perfect, and no more front locking or entire load being stopped by the fronts, for a few weeks, but alas some signs of possible fronts taking all the load again reappeared.
After returning home from clamming saturday, the fronts are not only locking up, but any minimal pressure applied to the brake pedal, the pedal on it's own, engages to full brake(my foot is off the pedal at this time)..and they lock up, or damn close to it!!...rears seem to be of little use, and I have to pull the pedal up with my foot to disengage the brakes.
Any help out there with a possible solution....
pads and disc show 75% of material and no abnormal visual wear or leaks
Trying to save a trip to the brake Gods
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01-02-2006, 06:57 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Vancouver, WA
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
The best brake guy I know is Alignment And Brake Specialties (ABS) in Hazel Dell. He works on my Expedition and has done a lot of work on our other family vehicles. Does not gouge, and his work is immaculate. He was recommended to me by several local shops who refer their specialty work to him. I am PMing you specifics.
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01-02-2006, 07:13 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: lapine oregon
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
the problem you describe is beyond most peoples abillity to fix. take it to a brake professional
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01-02-2006, 07:17 AM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Battle Ground, WA
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
Cooks Brakes in SE portland
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01-02-2006, 07:17 AM
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Tuna
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
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01-02-2006, 07:20 AM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Portland Oregon
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
Sounds like a bad brake booster . Expect to put a booster and master cylinder in it.
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01-02-2006, 07:24 AM
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Tuna
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
I had a booster go out once in my other ford...I could hear a hiss with each use of the pedal....
Come to think of it...I noticed a hiss or two a few weeks back in the new ford, but it went away
Hmmmmmmmm
Still taking it in, but that is much less than a new brain
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01-02-2006, 08:05 AM
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King Salmon
Join Date: May 2000
Location: West Valley
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
I think a 93 has rear anti lock only. 4 wheel abs did not happen until 99 on the superduty(f-250 and up) . The front rotors are well known for warping really bad.
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01-02-2006, 11:47 AM
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Tuna!
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Portland, Or
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
Ford's eat brakes!
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01-02-2006, 12:49 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: St Helens
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
Yeah, they do. I always get bazillions of miles of wear out of the pads and shoes, but due to the rotors warping or the calipers sticking, I have to replace the front brakes about every 40K or so. I pull them off and the pads are barely worn, but the rotors or calipers are toast. I've had 3 Rangers, a Bronco, a Bronco II, an Aerostar and numerous passenger cars and it's always the same story. :depressed: Never lost a master cylinder or booster, though. The only unusual drum brake problem I've had was an parking brake lever popping off inside the drum. It had over 100K on it, so I can let that one slide.
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01-02-2006, 12:55 PM
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Tuna
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
I've had 3 ford half tons, and a shortbox heavyhalf 4x4.
only one ever problem in 500,000 miles of my ford career, and it was the master and booster on the 4x4.
Now the new to me 4x4 after some minor TLC, will be good for another long run!!
Just got the news...Calipers and all brake pads are in great condition.
Rotors may need to be replaced, and they figure that the master cylinder is the problem.
I am having the rotors replaced, new seals etc as well, new pads while they have it apart, and the new master cylinder.
right around $500 and change.
WHEW!!! I was prepared for far more damage...there goes a big chunk of the driftboat fund
thanks for the help Guys!!!
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01-02-2006, 12:58 PM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Toledo Wa
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
Not sure if that year was included but I believe my Dads 95 had a recall for cracked rotors.Both of his were cracked.
I reread your post.Yep looks like a master cylinder.Had it stuck in my head that 1 front brake was sticking.My bad!
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01-02-2006, 12:59 PM
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Sturgeon
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Toledo Wa
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
They aint cheap are they?
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01-02-2006, 01:28 PM
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01-02-2006, 02:15 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bandon by the sea..
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
sounds like a typical ford break issue.. What you will need to do, check break lines first to the calipers.. then I would suggest buyin 2 new calipers and putting them on there. You can rebuild the calipers yourself but it isn't the best thing to do. Mine does this as well. new calipers will fix it. The plunger is what is sticking. and needs to be delt with..
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01-02-2006, 02:33 PM
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King Salmon
Join Date: May 2000
Location: West Valley
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
93 f-150 80K on original brakes, 97 f250, 85K on original brakes, 2000 f-350, 85K on original brakes (front). Rears are fine. Lots of boat dragging miles on all 3 rigs.
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01-02-2006, 02:44 PM
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Tuna!
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Portland Oregon
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
96 Ford explorer , set pads on all 4 corners at 80k , still 50% when done .
85 Ford 150 300k 2 boosters , 1 set calipers, 3 sets surfaces.
95 Ford Winstar , all 4 corners at 80k , another set rear pads and wheel cyclinder kits at 120k because someone drove it a day with rear brake on . 
A master cyclinder at 130k.
Friction surfaces are a normal maintaince item , nothing abnormal about my Ford brakes compared to my other rigs. There all single piston floating Calipers.
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01-02-2006, 02:57 PM
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Guest
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Asotin, WA
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
Just had my 95's front left lock up. Seized caliper piston. Ate the pads and rotor to crap. Got new loaded calipers and rotors for both sides from napa for $250. Time to get dirty and swap em out.
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01-02-2006, 11:25 PM
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Ifish Nate
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Washougal, WA
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Re: Ford Brake specialist???
Man, I always thought my Ford brakes were way better than my chevy brakes. Our company had a couple chevy's and a Ford. The chevy's were eating brakes like crazy, we couldn't seem to get more than 20K out of them. Especially if the chevy's had to tow anything. The Ford did the bulk of the heavy towing and the original brakes lasted 60k. I thought that was pretty good for hauling a 16 foot cargo trailer daily.
On one new chevy we spent about $2000.00 dollars on the brakes in a year and a half and 40k miles. Chevy insisted that brakes are a wear and tear item and wouldn't help us. That was the last new chevy I have bought. I'm on my second Ford since then and no problems.
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