What is your opinion?

salmoncatcher · 01-22-2004, 08:53 AM

while grouse hunting last year on property own by Crown Pacific which is near sedro woolly there were about 6 guys with 16 hounds. all worked for the company. when i asked them what they were hunting for they replied racoons and coyotes. they were up there 4 weekends in a row. why would people be using hounds for these animals. i thought maybe there were illegaly hunting cougar or bear. should i notify the WDFW. they have access to all the gates on the property.

Bait Bucket · 01-22-2004, 09:15 AM

Yep. I think I met them too in MHNF. A father and son team, so they say. Both vehicles had WA license on them. When I asked the oldest one what he was hunting, he told me yotes and bobcats. I took pictures of them as I have never seen that many dogs riding on top of vehicle before. (Remember. I'm new here and never saw anything like that back east.) Anyway, I didn't think it was a big deal and the guy I talked to seems to be an OK sort of guy. And those dogs were some of the nicest looking walker hounds I've seen in years.

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Boedy · 01-22-2004, 09:51 AM

Its legal to run dogs after Coons and Bobcats.

Mello-Yello · 01-22-2004, 10:27 AM

There's nothing unusual with hunting 'coons with dogs. As for coyotes, I dunno. Our dogs were broke from running coyotes/deer/etc.

From my experience a coyote will run a typical coon hound crazy. However, Greyhounds (the dog, not the bus) will run coyotes into the ground.

Washington Hunter · 01-22-2004, 10:28 AM

In Washington it is not legal to hunt any cat with hounds. But yes, coyotes and coons are ok. If those guys you saw worked for Crown Pacific, they may have been hunting bears. Timber companies do hire guys to kill bears on their lands, and it is legal. Hunters used to do it for free, until the people passed the initiative banning hounds, now the timber companies have to pay guys to do it. The WDFW allows this because the bears can do a lot of damage to young fir trees. I ran into a guy in a Toyota pickup up in the hills in southwest Wa. a couple of years ago..he told me he has a contract with Weyerhaeuser to kill bears on their lands in Oregon and Washington. He had a photo album with dozens and dozens of pictures of bears he has killed (if not hundreds.)

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Fish Hawg · 01-22-2004, 05:09 PM

Washington Hunter Was the truck white or red

Washington Hunter · 01-22-2004, 06:37 PM

I think it was white but I can't remember for sure. I do know that it wasn't red. Why..have you run into the same guy?

Fish Hawg · 01-22-2004, 06:42 PM

I have talked to a guy that said he or his friend has a contract with Weyerhaeuser I cant remember it has been a year or two :whazzup:

Fshklr · 01-22-2004, 06:46 PM

Yup it's pretty common. Since the no dogs for bear etc what else do you run your pride and joy hunting teams on. Coons, yotes etc and it's legal. usually see each guy with 3 or 4 dogs...it's common practice sedro on up..Concrete, Capehorn, Hamilton, Sedro
wooley, Darrington. Very popular in that neck of the woods.

salmoncatcher · 01-22-2004, 08:02 PM

there is some nice land back there for both fishing and hunting. the nooksack river was almost clear in september, but closed to fishing. we saw a lot of salmon carcasses and some old bear tracks. if anyone knows or hunts this area we should go some time. a friend and i took a grown over road for an offroad experience and came upon a blueberry patch on top of a rock mound. it was about 30 by 40 yards. it was full of bear feces. never did see a bear.

ScottD · 01-24-2004, 07:02 AM

I was elk hunting in late season for elk on Weyerhaeuser land behind gates and two trucks with hounds drove past me on the road. I was kind of mad that they were driving around back there because I had hiked behind the gates a few miles to find elk. I think they had spooked a herd across the unit boundary into the unit that was not open. (There was fresh tracks crossing the road in the snow.)

I assumed that Weyerhaeuser had contracted them to kill bears, but I did not talk to them so I don't know for sure.

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StickFish · 01-26-2004, 05:59 AM

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Originally posted by ScottD:
I was elk hunting in late season for elk on Weyerhaeuser land behind gates and two trucks with hounds drove past me on the road. I was kind of mad that they were driving around back there because I had hiked behind the gates a few miles to find elk. I think they had spooked a herd across the unit boundary into the unit that was not open. (There was fresh tracks crossing the road in the snow.)

I assumed that Weyerhaeuser had contracted them to kill bears, but I did not talk to them so I don't know for sure.

<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">This is the one reason I call them all bandits! If you have a CB scan around you will find them talking about the Elk and Deer they are running - you will never hear them talk about coons or yotes especially as they drive home. You will also find in an out of the way spot a couple of other guys usually sleeping with a radio (The Clients). Guys with the dogs find something worthy of the wall and they call "Their Clients" funny how every set of Elk tracks we came across had dog tracks with them.