Originally Posted by 300wbymann
1. I ALREADY KNOW THEY ARE NOT LEGAL IN OREGON AND HAVE NO PLANS ON USING THEM HERE.
just a question for the muzzy guys.
first, are they the same thing? is a power belt considered a sabot?
does the base come off of a powerbelt?
whats a more accurate bullet of the 2?
1 more question- do think it's possible to shoot 200 yards WITH OPEN SIGHTS? (no scope at all) i think i know the answers, but me and a buddy have 2 different ideas on them-- so what do you think? mainly on if they are both the same thing--sabots? thanks-
My opinion.... No they arent the same. I dont consider it a sabot, more of a gas seal/wad. But they both use plastic as a gas seal.
Yes the base comes off, though I'm not sure when. Never seen one in an animal, but dont remeber finding them 30 feet down the range like I do the sabots though.....
In my experience the sabots can be more accurate. Powerbelts fit loose in the barrel and depend on set back and expansion to seal them up and engage the rifleing. I think this adds a bit of variabillity. Also they arent much for being streamlined. They are pretty short and fat with a flat base.
Yes, with the right load and the right set of eyes, 200 yards is plenty doable with open sights. Peep sight might be a better choice. I practice to 200 with fiberoptic opens and hunt to 150 with them.
How many times you can shoot before cleaning is as much rifle/bullet dependant as it is powder dependant. Also as the barrel fouls velocity and pressure increase and accuracy tends to go out the door. If you shoot a greased patched round ball it will clean the barel as you load it, more or less, so you can often shoot many shots. Powerbelts fit so loose you could fit them down a dirty barrel easily. Sabots often fit tight and dont like to go down dirty barrels.
Powerbelts because they fit so loose dont provide much of a moisture seal in your barrel, a tight fitting sabot seals quite well in the right barrel. Just something to think about.
I dont like the Powerbelts terminal performance. I havent tried the jacketed ones though. The all lead versions more or less blow up and turn into a flat pancake. Penetration never was all that good, although the one guy in our party that uses them manages to kill elk just fine. No nice mushrooms collected under the far hide though.
My opinion on the best bullets/powder available for the 50 cal.
Tripple 7 (777) is my hands down vote. I've tried pretty well all of them.
My favorite bullet was the Buffalo Bullets SSB (special saboted bullet). It was 375 grain, hollow point, boat tail, in a quality MMP sabot. They are discontinued now.
All sabots arent created equall.
My next favorite bullet is the 360 grain Extreme Elite HPBT. Thier plastic tipped version in 340 grain aint bad either. Both are as accurate as the SSB was, just a bit lighter. I like the bigger bullets for elk.