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Old 08-14-2013, 07:59 AM   #1
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Default Unsolved Mysteries: The Dyatlov Pass Incident

In 1959, a group of nine Russian climbers died in the Ural mountains under amazing circumstances. The case remains one of the worlds most unusual unsolved mysteries.

In short, the group made camp in the open on the mountainside in waist deep snow, nearly a mile above timberline. Some time during the night something caused some of them to cut their way out of their tent from the inside and flee down the mountainside wearing only what they had worn to bed, some barefooted and other only wearing socks on their feet in temperatures reaching -30C.

Another portion of the group went in a different direction, some of them wearing clothing from the first group. All were killed, many suffered internal injuries including fractured skulls and broken/crushed ribs such as you would see in a car accident except that the injuries were all internal with no outside appearance of the trauma.

Additionally, the second group's clothing was highly irradiated and the bodies showed signs of radiation poisoning, hair was turned gray, skin was "deeply tanned".

Whatever happened remains a mystery...

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/dya...solved-mystery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=J1AUgb0kjcc

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Old 08-14-2013, 09:16 AM   #2
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Interesting.
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:31 PM   #3
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Oh god I hope our gubberment don't here about this they will investigate it and a cost of billions ,to the tax payer
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Old 08-14-2013, 06:41 PM   #4
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Creepy. Yea sounds like manbearpig or the yeti
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Creepy. Yea sounds like manbearpig or the yeti
A radioactive Yeti?!

The scariest part is that their bodies were radioactive. How does that happen?! The only things that I can think of are either it had to do with some military project, or it was ET.
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At least they died doing what they wanted. Kinda boring with no scandals to talk about huh CB.
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A radioactive Yeti?!

Maybe the yeti was abducted by aliens, received radiation from a test and then was let go. With all the anger he/she had to get some rage out, on the unsuspecting climbers..... j/k lol who knows? Still creepy story.
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A radioactive Yeti?!

The scariest part is that their bodies were radioactive. How does that happen?! The only things that I can think of are either it had to do with some military project, or it was ET.
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I. Identification

1. The Issue.

Near the southern Ural Mountains, in the Russian province of Chelyabinsk, there is a Soviet nuclear facility called the Mayak Chemical Combine. From 1948 until 1990 when the last of five reactors was shut down, the Combine contaminated the region to such an extent that it is now known as the most polluted area on Earth. The region received this title due to the Combine's continuous disregard for environmental and public safety. However, there are three specific incidents that stand out: intentional dumping of radioactive waste into the Techa River; an explosion at a radioactive waste storage facility in 1957; and a 1967 wind storm that deposited irradiated sediments from Lake Karachay onto the surrounding province.

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The Mayak Dilemma

If you multiply Chernobyl a hundred times, you have a picture of what happened in Chelyabinsk. Please do not compare Chelyabinsk with Chernobyl because it is a much different, and far worse problem...the disaster at Chelyabinsk has been going on far longer and has involved a far larger amount of radiation than Chernobyl. (Hertsgaard, 1992, 3)

One thousand miles to the east of Moscow, in the Chelyabinsk province of Russia and situated in the southern portion of the Ural Mountains is a 100 kilometer2 facility known as the Mayak Chemical Combine (MCC.) It is here that the Soviet nuclear program was born. Also known as Chelyabinsk-40, MCC produced the first lot of weapons grade plutonium for the Soviet Union. The facility is also a legacy of the Soviet nuclear program. Through intentional dumping of nuclear waste into the Techa River and Lake Karachay, an explosion at a nuclear waste storage tank in 1957, and the spread of irradiated sediments from Lake Karachay in 1967, Mayak has come to be known as the most polluted place on Earth.

From June 1948, when the first Soviet nuclear reactor went online, until 1990, when the last of Mayakþs five reactors were shutdown, approximately 26,700 km2 of land was irradiated. The total contamination is believed to be 185 petabecquerel (pBq) (5 megacuries (MCi)), with approximately 55,000 PBq (150 MCi) being released to the environment. This is more radiation then was released by the Chernobyl reactor explosion in 1986. (Hertsgaard 1992, 2) In fact, the amount of radioactive waste stored at and released by Mayak is enough to poison every square foot of the former Soviet Union. (Dahlburg 1992a, A1.) Dumping of Radioactive Material In 1948 the Soviet Union was trying to catch up to the United States in the newly born nuclear era. It already lagged behind 3 years in the development of nuclear weapons so it needed to conduct a sustainable nuclear chain reaction as soon as possible. The country did not have time to gain experience in the nuclear field, it had to be prepared to meet the enemy on the battlefield with this new means of warfare. As such, there was an overwhelming desire for secrecy and a single minded pursuit of government goals, the production of a nuclear weapon regardless of safety factors.

In the rush for nuclear development, overly simplified waste handling techniques were developed. The earliest Mayak reactors had open cooling systems. Water from the nearby Techa River would be pumped through the reactor as a coolant and the subsequent irradiated water would then be sent back into the river. Between 1948 and 1951 contaminated waste from Mayak was dumped directly into the Techa. The river itself is a vast expanse, extending through the Ob river into the Arctic Ocean. Between 1949 and 1956, 2.6 billion feet3 of liquid waste was dumped into the Techa with a total activity of over 2.75 million curies (Ci) of radiation. (Dahlburg 1992b, A1) The radiation in the Techa is estimated to equal the amount released by the Hiroshima atomic bomb or nearly 20 times that released at Chernobyl in 1986. (Hertsgaard 1992, 1)

The radiation in the river was so high that people received doses of 350 rems per year. In comparison, a nuclear power plant employee in the West can receive no more than 5 rems per year. In fact, a gamma ray detector placed on the banks of the Techa in 1992 was recorded at 1700 micro-roentengens, 100 times the normal level.

It is believed that the river now contains 2.5 times the number of long life isotopes as were released by the Chernobyl reactor. One hundred twenty four thousand people were exposed to high level radiation through the river. Unfortunately, exact numbers of people affected by the radiation cannot be determined due to inadequate medical records and the secrecy of the Soviet nuclear program. (Dahlburg 1992b, A1)
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Thank you.

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Some of my hunting partners have drove us out of a trailer or tent in the middle of the night with severe flatulence, ?????
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Thanks Johnny, that's probably why, but i'd still like to see what the radiation levels were around the general area, compared to just around the campsite.

That however, still doesn't explain how their skin was tanned and their hair turned grey.
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Thanks Johnny, that's probably why, but i'd still like to see what the radiation levels were around the general area, compared to just around the campsite.

That however, still doesn't explain how their skin was tanned and their hair turned grey.
The tanned skin was likely caused by the sun. It was five weeks before they were found. The sun likely would have done a lot of damage. Running around all crazy like can be a sign of severe hypothermia and with extremely cold conditions hypothermia is a very real possibility. Not sure about the injuries, that's slightly odd. Oh wait the whole thing could have been caused by an avalanche........

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Old 08-15-2013, 08:11 AM   #13
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maybe they resupplied their water from the river???
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Let's not lose sight of the fact that we're talking about:

-incomplete photocopies of records which were
-gathered 5 weeks after the 'incident'
-by officials of an oppressive government with an interest in concealing the truth from its citizenry and the world
-who probably had an incomplete understanding of what they were dealing with which were
-bodies left out in the elements for 5 weeks

Now with Johnny Ringo's info, the 'radiation' component seems plausibly explained.

It seems doubtful to me that aliens, yetis, chupacabras or Ural Benchlegs were involved.
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Old 08-15-2013, 10:06 AM   #15
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Open loop reactors were used at Hanford to produce Plutonium during the crash weapons development programs. The water was sourced from the Columbia River and returned to the river after passing through the operating reactor.

The only containment was the aluminum tubes that enveloped the fuel.
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Lots of info on Hanford and that whole coverup mess, just down the street from us
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Sounds like an avalanche could have caused most of that.
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Let's not lose sight of the fact that we're talking about:

-incomplete photocopies of records which were
-gathered 5 weeks after the 'incident'
-by officials of an oppressive government with an interest in concealing the truth from its citizenry and the world
-who probably had an incomplete understanding of what they were dealing with which were
-bodies left out in the elements for 5 weeks

Now with Johnny Ringo's info, the 'radiation' component seems plausibly explained.

It seems doubtful to me that aliens, yetis, chupacabras or Ural Benchlegs were involved.
I tend to agree, though there are still some things unexplained... like breaking out of their tents in their pajamas in -30 weather.

If I had to guess, this has something to do with the military, possibly some new thing they were testing. In the Urals there's a base that's deep in the mountains (like NORAD) that's rumored to have stockpiles of all kinds of chemical and biological weapons secretly stockpiled there to this day. Not sure how close that is to where this incident took place, but it might have something to do with this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Yamantau

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I tend to agree, though there are still some things unexplained... like breaking out of their tents in their pajamas in -30 weather.

If I had to guess, this has something to do with the military, possibly some new thing they were testing. In the Urals there's a base that's deep in the mountains (like NORAD) that's rumored to have stockpiles of all kinds of chemical and biological weapons secretly stockpiled there to this day. Not sure how close that is to where this incident took place, but it might have something to do with this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Yamantau
The avalanche tore up the tents and threw the occupants out.
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The avalanche tore up the tents and threw the occupants out.
Exactly. There is nothing in this story that cannot be logically explained. But where is the fun in that? Folks like a good mystery.

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Except that there was no avalanche. The campers tracks were clearly visible and the tents were cut open from the inside. Their clothes were inside the tents. For some reason they cut their way out of the tents and ran for their lives, barefoot and half dressed.
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Except that there was no avalanche. The campers tracks were clearly visible and the tents were cut open from the inside. Their clothes were inside the tents. For some reason they cut their way out of the tents and ran for their lives, barefoot and half dressed.
The campers tracks were clearly visible....after five weeks.

My suspicion is that this is one of those stories that gets larger and wilder with each telling.

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Whatever they were high on, stay away from. I doubt it was Coor's Light.
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