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Old 04-09-2013, 07:24 PM   #1
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Default Belly hook on Quickfish

I just changed all my Quickfish over to a 5/0 BRB for the tail hook. I'm contemplating not putting a hook on the belly. Am I crazy? I can't remember ever hooking a fish on just the belly. It would make wrapping a little easier but that's no big deal. I think my biggest concern is the action might be off from having too much weight on the tail.

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Old 04-09-2013, 07:30 PM   #2
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Default Re: Belly hook on Quickfish

I am no Quickfish expert. Shoot I don't think I have caught one on a Quickfish. But I think that they must be designed to have a certain extra weight in the mid section to swim like the designers planned them to.

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Old 04-09-2013, 07:37 PM   #3
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Default Re: Belly hook on Quickfish

When plunking I always run just a tail hook. I also recently switched over to a 5/0 BRB
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:12 PM   #4
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No belly hook needed. They'll swim the same and wrapping is a heck of a lot easier.

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Old 04-09-2013, 08:17 PM   #5
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Default Re: Belly hook on Quickfish

I guess I'll be the first to disagree. I say a belly hook is needed. Always catch a fish or two on the belly hook every year. I switched my hooks to 3/0 Sickles on my K14s and so far so good.
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Old 04-09-2013, 08:58 PM   #6
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Default Re: Belly hook on Quickfish

I always remove the belly hook to put the wrap on then i put the belly hook back on. The belly hook isnt really neccessary, but it definately helps get a few more fish.
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Old 04-09-2013, 09:40 PM   #7
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Default Re: Belly hook on Quickfish

After hundreds of salmon caught with and without, I've found the belly hook is NOT really necessary.

When I've elected to run a belly hook, the overwhelming majority of fish are still caught on the tail hook.

The belly hook presents two liabilities...
1) More of a PITA to wrap plugs
2) Potential to screw up a net-job if that belly hook catches the mesh before the fish's head goes all the way into the bag.

For those worried about the balance of the plug with only one hook, just leave a couple of split-rings and/or an amputated treble shank on the belly screw-eye if it makes you feel better.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:08 PM   #8
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Default Re: Belly hook on Quickfish

Oddly enough, I find wrapping a plug is easier for me with a belly hook than without. I find that it stabilizes the wrap and makes centering it easier. So I prefer leaving the (now barbless) treble in place on the belly. I'll switch a few to singles but in general they work fine with stock hook setups for me.
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Old 04-09-2013, 10:09 PM   #9
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No belly hook needed. They'll swim the same and wrapping is a heck of a lot easier.

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I disagree. The belly hook not only serves to help hook fish it acts as a "rudder" to balance the swimming action of the plug. Alot of ppl fail to realize that fish typically attack a fish head first, thus the belly hook often gets hooked and not the tail hook. This may not be apparent while watching the plug swim, but I recomend you watch the action of the plug on the rod in equivelent currents with and with out belly hook.
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:40 AM   #10
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They'll work either way. But, I voted for the belly hook. Heck, I'd add another hook to the head of the plug if I could get it to swim right!

When I'm plunking, I'll slide down a kwikfish with a beadchain/single siwash on the belly & no tail hook.

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Old 04-10-2013, 07:09 AM   #11
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I have fished quicks both ways I like the belly hook. I think it helps balance the plug. But The best kwick I have ever had didnt have a belly hook so its all in the plug swimming action
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:18 AM   #12
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Default Re: Belly hook on Quickfish

Why wouldn't you run the second hook? It's not like they work better without one. The only time I don't use on is with a spin glow and the k-fish slid over the top and the spin glow is getting more action and I want the extra hook in it. With that said I bet 9 out of 10 fish are hooked on the tail hook and maybe that belly hook is a good tool for that 1 in 10 biter.
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Old 04-10-2013, 12:20 PM   #13
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Default Re: Belly hook on Quickfish

Great advise so far.
I agree on your larger bannana style plugs most hook ups are on that tail hook.
I also believe some maplips run better with out a belly hook at all.

The belly hook presents some liabilities...
1) More of a PITA to wrap plugs
2) Potential to screw up a net-job if that belly hook catches the mesh before the fish's head goes all the way into the bag.

3) Hooks could get tangled with each other.
4) Greater chance of a plug getting fouled (leaves, sticks etc)
5) Half as many plugs get after market hooks for the same cost. (I'M cheap)

IMO just the time saved in quickly re-wrapping a hassel free plug in a hot bite will result in more fish then the 10% hooked on that belly hook.
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Old 04-10-2013, 04:45 PM   #14
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Great advise so far.
I agree on your larger bannana style plugs most hook ups are on that tail hook.
I also believe some maplips run better with out a belly hook at all.

The belly hook presents some liabilities...
1) More of a PITA to wrap plugs
2) Potential to screw up a net-job if that belly hook catches the mesh before the fish's head goes all the way into the bag.

3) Hooks could get tangled with each other.
4) Greater chance of a plug getting fouled (leaves, sticks etc)
5) Half as many plugs get after market hooks for the same cost. (I'M cheap)

IMO just the time saved in quickly re-wrapping a hassel free plug in a hot bite will result in more fish then the 10% hooked on that belly hook.


Pretty much took the words right out of my mouth.

A majority of the plugging I do these days is with K9's, K11's and Maglips 3.5 with single sickle siwash's I've spent a lot of time running both hook configurations and i've experienced no benefit to running a belly hook. In fact, I find it more of a hinderance than a help for the reasons stated above.

My most compelling evidence is that I can count on the fingers of one hand(and not all those fingers) the number of fish I've hooked on the belly hook over the course of my fishing career. Removing the belly hook does nothing to hinder the plugs swimming ability.
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:42 PM   #15
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Default Re: Belly hook on Quickfish

I run them both ways as well. If im banking it then only a tail hook. If on a boat I'll usually have the belly hook, but not all the time. It is a whole lot easier to wrap them with out the belly hook imo.
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:23 PM   #16
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6 hooks compared to 3 . Enough said
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:31 PM   #17
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Default Re: Belly hook on Quickfish

My fish on Monday took a K-14 re-rigged with 3/0 BRB belly and tail hooks. The belly hook penetrated inside the upper right jaw and protruded on the outside. I used to use Stinger trebles on both belly and tail with good landing ratios. I will continue the dual BRBs and see if the success continues.
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Old 04-11-2013, 12:04 AM   #18
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No belly hook needed.
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:21 AM   #19
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6 hooks compared to 3 . Enough said
Well, I'll say more.
I can't count the number of times the front hook has been buried into a fish with a couple of points. That is additional security, especially in these barbless hook days. Usually the back hook is also hooked into the fish. It is less common to have ONLY the front hook engaged.

I have had the front hook snag the net and prevent a proper net job a couple times.

And hook to hook foul ups do happen, but with a sensitive rod you can feel them and I usually carefully swim my lure back instead of casting it to minimize this as well as feel the bottom leading to lure placement. CW
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:36 AM   #20
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From the bank, I run two Spin-n-Glo's with trebels and slide down a Qwikfish. Isn't the max number of hooks allowed in the water three hooks? That's why slide down a U-20 with a single tail hook when banking. No complaints about my hookup ratio. Easier to put bait on the belly, too. From the boat, I use whatever has been the hot lure, regardless of number of hooks. I have a few that have teeth marks and paint chipped off - my go to lures.

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Old 04-11-2013, 11:40 AM   #21
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The belly hook presents two liabilities...

2) Potential to screw up a net-job if that belly hook catches the mesh before the fish's head goes all the way into the bag.
Haha!!! If you saw the last Hawg Quest you know for a fact I can attest to this one!!!

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Old 04-11-2013, 12:32 PM   #22
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:53 PM   #23
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No belly hook an double split ring the tail hook. If a fish is gonna slam it he is committed no matter what. With the extra ring in the tail leaves room for that hook to trail nicely an easier to store an hook up between runs. IMO
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:19 PM   #24
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For those ppl that do not believe that the hooks and hook configurations have an effect on the way a plug swim need to take some underwater video footage of the same plug in equivelent water conditions with and with out single or treble and or minus belly hook to see that there is asignificant influence these hook configurations have on the swiming action of these plugs.
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For those ppl that do not believe that the hooks and hook configurations have an effect on the way a plug swim need to take some underwater video footage of the same plug in equivelent water conditions with and with out single or treble and or minus belly hook to see that there is asignificant influence these hook configurations have on the swiming action of these plugs.
And would you like to share ur findings?

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Old 04-11-2013, 10:37 PM   #26
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If I have plugs that after a good effort do not catch fish. I change the hook configuration siwash and #7 crane swivels.I have done this and made some plug real fish catchers.If they still dont catch fish after the hook change they are Ebay bound.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:58 PM   #27
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If I have plugs that after a good effort do not catch fish. I change the hook configuration siwash and #7 crane swivels.I have done this and made some plug real fish catchers.If they still dont catch fish after the hook change they are Ebay bound.
Basically every plug can be tuned or modified to swim right and catch fish given enough knowledge and invest the time and have a place to test the lures on their relative effectiveness.
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:13 AM   #28
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:03 AM   #29
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Hooks will surely have an affect on the swimming of the plug. This has been well known by bass fishermen for years. Whether or not it affects a kwikfish's ability to entice a salmon or steelhead is beyond me. I do know the plugs swim differently with or without the belly hooks.
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