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Old 03-02-2013, 11:44 AM   #1
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Did a search and most of the threads are from 10 years ago. What are your opinions on Vision?

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Old 03-02-2013, 12:09 PM   #2
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Meh...there so so, I noticed they don't stay sharp as well. And if I remember correctly I had problems with them just snapping.
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Old 03-02-2013, 12:24 PM   #3
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I used them alittle last year didn't like them much. There's always a couple informed ones in the clamshell. Makes me wonder about their quality control. They don't seem to be very sharp out of the package so I spent alittle more and just got the gamis
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:05 PM   #4
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best hook in that price range.
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:09 PM   #5
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Easy to sharpen but dull out quick. Especially in the salt. Good hook for the money but check them often.
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:16 PM   #6
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So how about the Vision bead chains?
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:03 PM   #7
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Swivels and bead chains are outstanding, hooks not so good.

I tried the hooks for a few months thinking the quality would be the same as the swivels, they don't stay sharp and straighten out way to easy.

Love the swivels, use nothing else.

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Old 03-02-2013, 04:14 PM   #8
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Didn't Vision get bought out by Pucci?
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:18 PM   #9
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Yep and they are made in China or somewhere overseas. Never cared much for Vision hooks. I prefer Owners or Gami's.
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:37 PM   #10
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Yep and they are made in China or somewhere overseas. Never cared much for Vision hooks. I prefer Owners or Gami's.
Owner is all i use. Dont waste your time with vision hooks, Why risk losing a fish of a lifetime over a cheaper hook? but sorry to say owner and Gami are both over seas too
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Old 03-02-2013, 05:47 PM   #11
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Wow I landed 38 salmon this year on Vision Hooks. Never had one break in 12 trips.

We use 5o black hooks double hook trolling herring never had an issue, not one ever in 8 years. I have never broken one ever!

We rarely have a fish unbutton trolling. Useally have hard time getting them unhooked with pliers once landed.

I use Vision #1 and #2 this year landed 19 steelhead lost 2. Doubt it was the hooks fault.

I have used other hooks and lost fish but not with Vision.

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Old 03-02-2013, 05:59 PM   #12
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Didn't Vision get bought out by Pucci?
No they just copied (ripped off) the design. SOP.... No issues with the hooks for me and I've used them since 07.
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Old 03-02-2013, 06:34 PM   #13
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Swivels and bead chains are outstanding, hooks not so good.

I tried the hooks for a few months thinking the quality would be the same as the swivels, they don't stay sharp and straighten out way to easy.

Love the swivels, use nothing else.

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This is spot on had hooks straighten in fast water loosing hand full of steelhead. The quality isn't there.

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Old 03-02-2013, 06:41 PM   #14
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Yep and they are made in China or somewhere overseas. Never cared much for Vision hooks. I prefer Owners or Gami's.
Where are Owner and Gamakatsu made? Just curious as I do not know.
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:41 PM   #15
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One says they break, another says they bend.
Time to move on.
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:50 PM   #16
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Decent quality for the money, but I agree with a few others that their other terminal gear is better than their hooks. I use them for trout and other smaller species, but not so much for salmon.
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Old 03-02-2013, 08:53 PM   #17
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Have been using them for the past 3 years from the coast to the rivers, never had a issue with breaking. I always sharpen my hooks, it takes a good point. Also I never reuse a hook once its landed a fish.

Not sure if that helps
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Old 03-02-2013, 08:54 PM   #18
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All I use for sidedriftng is #3 visions. Do your own quality control.

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Old 03-02-2013, 09:11 PM   #19
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Diver and egged the red ones last Spring . Never had a problem.
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Old 03-02-2013, 09:51 PM   #20
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I have had good luck with them!
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:31 PM   #21
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Thanks for all the replies. I haven't had any break either. I have bent a few but only when I point my rod tip at a snag and really give it hell. The reason why I like the price point is because I view them as disposable. I snag up or land a fish and tie on a new hook and leader.

Funny thing about this thread is I've read the same opinions of gamakatsu and owner hooks. One person says they bend another says they break. Just recently there was a thread about black owner hooks being brittle.

I think it's funny when people blame the hooks for losing fish from bending out or breaking. I am sure there is the occasional instance where the hook will actually fail due to defect but would guess 90% or more of the time it's due to operator error, or wrong selection for the application. Of course a #4 light wire hook is going to fail if you have your drag set too tight or if you're trying to stop a hot fish from going over a riffle.

When it comes down to it, hooks are made of metal wire. Apply enough pressure and its going to either bend or break. If that amount of force it takes to bend or break a hook is too easily applied in its current application it's time to go a size up in hook/wire gauge.

It's really easy to place blame on a hook manufacturer when you lose a fish due to a failed hook, but next time that happens, it might be a good idea to re-evaluate the situation and see if its actually a defective hook or if the fish was played incorrectly leading to a failure.
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:51 PM   #22
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I used them a bit when they first came out, fine at the price, but I had a lot of tips roll over on them, never lost or missed fish on them that I blamed on the hook. similar to brads hooks, not the best hook, but work fine. i'm a vmc sure set fan myself for steelhead, at 10 cents a hook they are legit. just got a brand new 1000 pack
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:43 PM   #23
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Dont waste your time with vision hooks, Why risk losing a fish of a lifetime over a cheaper hook?
Seemed to hold up OK for this fish.....

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Old 03-03-2013, 02:02 AM   #24
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Seemed to hold up OK for this fish.....

I guess when your in a boat with miles of water to chase a fish around you could probably land that fish with 8lb line also.
Maybe a difference between salmon hooks, and steelhead hooks but any pressure on steelhead size 1 hooks will straighten them.
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Old 03-03-2013, 07:29 AM   #25
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I caught this fish in some swift water on a #3 vision hook. I guess I got lucky...
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Old 03-03-2013, 07:41 AM   #26
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I caught this fish in some swift water on a #3 vision hook. I guess I got lucky...
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Sounds like your happy with them what did you ask for and waste my time.
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Old 03-03-2013, 07:47 AM   #27
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Sounds like your happy with them what did you ask for and waste my time.
I asked because I haven't caught that many fish on them and was wondering if their quality had improved from the threads 10 years prior. I'm at a crossroads of what hooks I want to buy and figured I would ask to see what the consensus was. It's mixed reviews like you get in any hook thread. What hooks do you use scottsduckboat?
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Old 03-03-2013, 07:50 AM   #28
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Only thing i can say is, in the last pack of 100 #2's I had a few that had incomplete eyes. I've have/seen big steelhead landed on them with no prob. can't speek to landing Chinooks on them.
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:19 AM   #29
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I asked because I haven't caught that many fish on them and was wondering if their quality had improved from the threads 10 years prior. I'm at a crossroads of what hooks I want to buy and figured I would ask to see what the consensus was. It's mixed reviews like you get in any hook thread. What hooks do you use scottsduckboat?
Gammies octopus or wide gap. Owners cutting point or needle. Just bought a 100 pack of matzuo sickle hooks that I have been experimenting with. Alot depends on type of fishing or gear being used whether in the boat or banking it.

If you want to pick them up I have 3/4 of a box of size 1 vision hooks 100 pack. What was left that I won't risk using anymore of. It has been in cabinet for over a year.
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:19 AM   #30
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I bought a 25 pack a couple years ago. Every hook needed sharpening right out of the package.

Somewhere in the garage sits that same 25 pack...never bothered to give them the river trial.
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:28 PM   #31
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I have gone through several 1000 #3 size for side drifting, caught many fish with few coming unbuttoned. I would have broke the bank if I was using Gami or Qwner.
Now for bank fish I like a #1 size and have landed plenty of fish without a problem. I do like the more expensive hooks, but why pay more when what i am using works 99% of the time.

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Old 03-03-2013, 05:47 PM   #32
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Used the #2,s. to soft for me. Bent many of them straight. Someone with a softer touch on how they pull would disagree....LOL...
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