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Old 05-04-2012, 06:42 PM   #1
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Default BFG's for hunting and work?

Arguably, BFG's are the best snow tire for hunting. On a Dodge 4x4 2,500 diesel, how will they hold up as a work truck tire? What kind of wear can I expect to get out of a set?

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50-60k on km's and ko's
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I could never get more that 37k on my 3/4 ton diesel with ATs, but then again I lived in AZ at the time, and heat and high speed are enemies of tires.
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Work truck, I suggest buying used new truck take offs. Save the good tires for hunting trips. Money saved is pure profit
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I've never got less than 50K out of a set of BFG ATs on a 1500 or lighter rig.

The one time I ran them on my 2500HD they lasted less than 25K miles.

I'll never run another set on a HD truck.
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:59 PM   #6
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I had a set of 35" AT's on my Ford F350. They were the worst tire I have ever owned. Terrible snow traction had to chain up going up to ski at Mt. Hood and got stuck in my driveway once) and poor tread life (about 24k miles from new to barely legal). They were the proper load range an everything........

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I use BFG'S ALL TERRAIN on both my 4x4's they are excellent, they have the snow flake on the side, which means, ideal for snow and Ice, they dominate on the snow, I'm not sure how long they last, however you may have to re-balance them occasionally, they are awesome tires, definitely a premium tire for hunting and towing.
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had a set that came on my 3500 Dodge now 100000 miles and only 2 sets of BFG's when loaded (11' Camperand 18' boat) im over 13000#'s I have single rear tires.
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I had the opposite experience as firehead but mine are (were) mounted on a Dodge Cummins 2500 4x4 rather than a Ford which could make a difference because my last truck was a Ford F350 diesel and it ate tires up like it was starving. My last set of tires on this Dodge were 35" AT's and I got over 50000 on them. I had a season pass at Meadows for three years while running the AT's and never had to chain up. I now have 33" MT's and they are wearing OK. I believe my AT's were superior to the MT's (that I am currently running) in the snow, noise, and in wear so when my MT"s wear out I will go back to BFG AT's again. BTW, before these last two sets of BFG's, I ran several different Les Schwab tires and rarely could I get 30000 miles out of them.
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I got 40K out of my ATs, and there was nothing left. I run them fairly hard, on a light truck. I bought another set. They are expensive. Maybe you could get more mileage out something else, but man, these were the nicest, trouble-free tires I've ever owned.
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BFG A/T's are over rated, and overpriced. you can find a hell of alot better tire for less that will last longer and be a better all around tire for you. the goodyear duratracs are a awesome new tire. they havent been out to long but so far everyone i talk to that runs them on there HD's love em
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Old 05-04-2012, 09:30 PM   #12
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idk about snow but I am field testing a pair of toyo m55's . The guys at schwab's sold these to me after I went in and demanded the best tire I could get for logging roads . As i explained i run almost as many gravel roads as I do asphalt . I will post up how happy or unhappy I am, with wear at years end and again when they get replaced . Apparently this is the tire that a lot of the logging outfits put on the smaller rigs ? we'll see how they hold up to my rally racing to the tree stand after work every night . My experience with mud tires in general is that they do not hold up well to high speed trips up and down the hill day after day for very long at all .

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Old 05-04-2012, 09:37 PM   #13
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Not sure how much BFG's have changed in the last 20 years, but I wouldn't waste the money on them. I did 2-3 sets year ago and they were the best highway tire I ever owned, but not the best when it came to the dirt roads. I had to really stay on top of rotations and balancing the get anywhere close to maximum life out of them.

You could do much better for less money.
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idk about snow but I am field testing a pair of toyo m55's . The guys at schwab's sold these to me after I went in and demanded the best tire I could get for logging roads . As i explained i run almost as many gravel roads as I do asphalt . I will post up how happy or unhappy I am, with wear at years end and again when they get replaced . Apparently this is the tire that a lot of the logging outfits put on the smaller rigs ? we'll see how they hold up to my rally racing to the tree stand after work every night . My experience with mud tires in general is that they do not hold up well to high speed trips up and down the hill day after day for very long at all .
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You won't be sorry. Good tire.
This is a great tire. Having them siped seems to make them last longer
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Old 05-05-2012, 05:52 AM   #16
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I ran AT's on the last truck and I'm running them on the new truck old one's had 40,000 on them and still looked good.

I've got a set of BFG rugged trails 265-70R-16's with 600ml's on them that I will make you a good deal on.
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Old 05-05-2012, 06:45 AM   #17
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I prefer the bfg's over the toyos. Had one problem after another with the toyos. They throw rocks and didn't last very long maybe 30k. Didn't do too well off road either. That's just my preference though.
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I had a 2000 Dodge 3/4T that I hauled rec. Veh's. with. Got a set of ten ply Toyo's and got 104,000 mi out of them. Still out in the barn because they are not quite to the wear rings yet.
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:03 PM   #19
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I have the KO's on my 99 Ford 4x4 CC and I got over 50K on the last three sets and will only use them going forward, Good snow tire and I tow 7500 lbs trailer. You do have to rotate the tires to get 50K.
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i wish they still made the old style mud terrains. not a km2 fan
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I had a 2004 Dodge 3500 long bed that I bought brand new and just sold with a brand new set of BFG KMs on it. It had 147,000 miles on it and that brand new set was only the 3rd set of tired I ever had on it.

I always got them siped, I kept my speed to 60 or so on the Hwy, and I rotated them every 3-4,000 miles. I could not have been happier with them. They were awsome in the ice and snow, and were pretty good on the wet Hwy. I will always use BFG mud tires on my trucks, unless I start getting different results.
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Old 05-05-2012, 03:12 PM   #22
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I just saw the last post, and even though I am a KM2 fan, the originals were WAY better!!
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I had a 2000 Dodge 3/4T that I hauled rec. Veh's. with. Got a set of ten ply Toyo's and got 104,000 mi out of them. Still out in the barn because they are not quite to the wear rings yet.
I agree, i run the Toyo M/T`s on all my 4x4`s, great tire, strong and have never had an issue, even when mounted on my rock crawler i had, they take some abuse .
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Bfgs are horrible for all of us that are in the woods day aftet day very low miles and they tear chunks out on rough gravle most every one here run run toyos and the m55 are high mile tire on and off
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I just put a set of AT'S on tundra and absolutely love them. Before i got tne bfg's i had those toyo mt and all i can say is garbage! My brand new truck at the time rode like a 72 four wheel drive chevy with 8 inches of lift and 100 psi in each tire, they were loud, truck wandered all over like i was driving drunk and the steering wheel would shake. Put the bfg's on and it rides like a new truck again.... i was up in the woods 2 days ago and they worked awesome snow mud and gravel.... but thats just my input. Everyone has there own taste tho.
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My truck is a Quad Cab 1500. I got 55K out of my last set of AT KOs. If I didnt tow a boat in the winter, and launch on snow covered ramps I wouldnt have had to replace them for another 10K. They are great in the snow, and I believe the only AT that is severe snow rated. I am able to pull my 20 foot boat up steep ramps in 14" of wet snow without chaining. Excellent on icy or wet roads. They are fine when I am off road, but I dont spend as much time off road as a lot of you.
When I was researching before buying this last set, it seems that the most complaints were with really heavy trucks. Cooper has a new AT out that gets great reviews, as well as Toyo AT. Just couldnt get past my own experience with them.
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I put the toyo m/t` s on all my stuff and have no problems with driving, very quite for a mud terrain, the m55 is also a very strong tire and used on all the logging rigs we work on.
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I tried the M55's on 2 rigs. Kept getting blowouts on logging roads on one set. One set made it about 25,000 max. Way over priced tires.
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Old 05-05-2012, 08:49 PM   #29
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My company runs a fleet of pickups to manage its forest lands. They use Toyo M55s and Open Country ATs. They have run these for several years.
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i wish they still made the old style mud terrains. not a km2 fan
They do still make them, I went with the km2 instead after a lifetime of km's and my only complaint on the km2's is the wander, km is the way to go. This is on a sd cc ford.

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They are great in the snow, and I believe the only AT that is severe snow rated.
There are numerous ATs that are severe snow rated.
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After dealing with flats from sharp rocks,sidewall punctures, road noise, and tire wear I switched to Michelin LTX Winter E (pre-siped 10 ply) for the past 10 years on 3/4T pickups. They hold the road going over the cascade passes in winter and wear as well as anything I've tried. Wait for the Costco fall sale for the best price.
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I now have on the Cooper Discoverer st maxx on my tundra. I LOVE THEM! Flawless in snow and mud. Quiet on roads. These were recommended to me by a friend who works at Superior Tire in Longview. He said some of the weyerhaeuser trucks are running them on their HD's and getting 50k on primarily logging roads. I know when I do wear them out I'm getting another set.
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I am sold on BFG at's. Tried duratrac's and hated them, loud and lots of vibration even after several rebalances.

The mileage is not the best but that's part of the trade off for tires that work well in the snow, ice, and mild off road.
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I sell tires the ko is ok the km2 don't last there are tires that cost less and do everything you want Toyo is not one of them Michelin is high if you want to know about tires find someone in a tire store you trust and let him help you asking other people is like the Ford Chevy thing.
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I am on my 4th set of BFG Mudders on my 3/4 ton diesel. Last 3 sets all got around 63k. Never had any problems in snow. I ran 1 set of Toyo Mudders and only got 50k and they cost more.
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Arguably, BFG's are the best snow tire for hunting. On a Dodge 4x4 2,500 diesel, how will they hold up as a work truck tire? What kind of wear can I expect to get out of a set?
I am partial to the Wild Country XTX-redesigned. Siped, and E rated version. The only tire the state of Oregon will allow instead of chains. Mine were put to the test in a bunch of snow this last winter and they gripped better than my previous BFG tires. Just a consideration.
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I've never got less than 50K out of a set of BFG ATs on a 1500 or lighter rig.

The one time I ran them on my 2500HD they lasted less than 25K miles.

I'll never run another set on a HD truck.
I'm having the same result.... I used to LOVE BFG A/T!... I would easily get 50k on my old 4x4 Ranger (31x10.5) .... but I'm 15k into a set of 285/70/R17's for my '08 2500 Cummins, and I have about half tread left...
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I heard they went with a softer compound to increase the traction rating on the tires. Now they don't wear as well.
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I put down about 50K a year on my F250 and I run M55's with sipped centers. Best tire for mileage and durability that I have run. I have run toyo MT's, both BFG KO's and Goodyear tires. They are expensive but the best tire that I have found. I spend about a substantial amount of time off road, though not as much as a logger. I find them to be the best blend of aggressive enough to handle mud, and smooth enough to wear even and not sound like an angry wasp nest on the interstate. I have been getting about 60K miles out of the tires but I don't run them till they are bald.
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I put down about 50K a year on my F250 and I run M55's with sipped centers. Best tire for mileage and durability that I have run. I have run toyo MT's, both BFG KO's and Goodyear tires. They are expensive but the best tire that I have found. I spend about a substantial amount of time off road, though not as much as a logger. I find them to be the best blend of aggressive enough to handle mud, and smooth enough to wear even and not sound like an angry wasp nest on the interstate. I have been getting about 60K miles out of the tires but I don't run them till they are bald.
I've have read great things about the M55 but don't they run $300-$400 a tire? How did the noise and ride compare to the others you ran?
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I put down about 50K a year on my F250 and I run M55's with sipped centers. Best tire for mileage and durability that I have run. I have run toyo MT's, both BFG KO's and Goodyear tires. They are expensive but the best tire that I have found. I spend about a substantial amount of time off road, though not as much as a logger. I find them to be the best blend of aggressive enough to handle mud, and smooth enough to wear even and not sound like an angry wasp nest on the interstate. I have been getting about 60K miles out of the tires but I don't run them till they are bald.
I've have read great things about the M55 but don't they run $300-$400 a tire? How did the noise and ride compare to the others you ran?


They are pricey! Don't remember what the price was last time but they had gone up from the previous years. I have 265/70/17's. With as much time as I spend in the truck and the place I go by myself I think the extra money is very wisely spent in my opinion.

I would say the road noise is equal with most all terrain tires. The compound is a little harder then some so they do have a little noise but not enough to notice a hum or buzz sound. I usually notice wind noise more then the tire noise.
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I've have read great things about the M55 but don't they run $300-$400 a tire? How did the noise and ride compare to the others you ran?
Not sure what size your running but i just shell'd out 900 for all four for

my Toyota but they are 235-85 r16 which is about 31x8 if you prefer to look at it that way . Yes if your wondering i put 16's on the Toyota so i could get the m55's in this size with out waiting a week . larger m55 are more easier to get i believe . Glad to hear i got the right tire as this is my first set .
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For what I do, I truely feel you cannot beat any of the BFG Tires. I have had them all and for drive ability, snow, mud, rocks, gravel roads etc, I personally don't feel you can beat them. Myself or my dad have run many different tires in the past and all but the BFG have survived. On 5 different vehicles from heavy to light and in the last 10 years we have had one flat and that was actually my fault for driving over a dead log with lots of limbs on it.

The company I work for only run's BFG from the AT's to the MT's on all our vehicles...light or heavy, towing or off roading. Believe me, we use the vehicles extremely hard. I have seen many a tire out on the trails, rocks, snow etc and for the money I don't feel you can go wrong. A lesson I learned a long time ago, when out in the back country or in the snow is to let some air out of the tires. Yes you may lose a little in gas mileage, which no doubt is important, but in my book I will give up a little $ there to keep from having flats or blow outs. I have never, and I mean never had to chain up in the snow with either the AT or MT when doing so. A person doesn't have to let out much air to improve traction or make for a better ride. I see guys all the time running between 50 and 100 psi in their tires only to hit something sharp and bamb!!!! Blown tire.

My dad was skeptical about letting some air out of his tires on his 1 ton Super Duty when we were over hunting. Granted his truck is much heavier than my jeep but boy did it help. The ride went from stiff and bouncing a person all over the place to a more comfee / rolling ride just by going from 50 to 35 psi. In the snow...ya buddy did great with more traction and a wider foot print. Now granted having on board air helps to air back up and not everyone has that but...just think about it if you did.

My experience and opinion is definitely different than a lot of people, but for me and what I do both for a living and for fun, a person can't go wrong with BFG.
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I keep reading good things about DuraTrac's both on and off road so I will likely get them instead of the BFG's next time.

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All I know is don't let schwab talk you into getting the Dick Cepek Mountaincat they are JUNK they look good and they saved me about $200 total on a full set of Toyo's but they are the worst riding, out of round, Chunking garbage tires around !!

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All I know is don't let schwab talk you into getting the Dick Cepek Mountaincat they are JUNK
I can't afford their tire prices anymore anyways. Wholy moly!
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I know !! I was stuck with little cash and a easy payment plan that made me do it !! I cant remember exact #s but the Toyos were about $1300 and I got the junk ones for $1100
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My Brother just picked up another set of the All Terrains after getting 54K on the last set.The price went from $1000 almost 2 yrs ago to $1400...He drives an 2007 Dodge 2500 HD crewcab 4x4 for work
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All I know is don't let schwab talk you into getting the Dick Cepek Mountaincat they are JUNK they look good and they saved me about $200 total on a full set of Toyo's but they are the worst riding, out of round, Chunking garbage tires around !!

I had a pair of these on my wife's Cherokee, loved them! They rode nice, never did chunk and threw mud like crazy when needed, I would buy another set in a heart beat. I know tires wear totally different on some rigs versus others, difference with weight of vehicle, and what kind of use they get.
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I have been into the shop (schwabs) many times at first it was well your truck must just ride different then it was well you need a alignment so there went $60 then it was well your brakes and rotors and all could be it so there went another $300 had them dismounted and re mounted 180 deg. opposite from where they were many many oz. of lead to re balance 2 of them and one was REALLY bad and still have issues with them. I have since spoke to 2 other customers with this tire and they have had the same problems. I have decided to just deal with them and hope I can get by a while till I can afford something else.
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I keep reading good things about DuraTrac's both on and off road so I will likely get them instead of the BFG's next time.

I put these on my truck because I heard good things. Let's just say I am glad America's tire has a ride guarantee. Noisy and lots of vibration issues, even after taking them back to be rebalanced. I have bfg all terrains back on the truck now.

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I keep reading good things about DuraTrac's both on and off road so I will likely get them instead of the BFG's next time.

I have these on my truck, I like them on road and off, but these tires are hard to balance. Ill probably buy another set when ever I have to buy them again.
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Now on my second set of BFG AT, on a 2500HD 4X4 Chevy Duramax. The first set lasted 50K in all kinds of driving conditions and heavy towing, there was still some tread left. This is my daily driving rig, including hunting and city, so I replace the tires sooner than some people, for safer towing reasons. I have had to chain up a few times, but, it was in deep snow towing an 11k# trailer up a hill. They always do what I need them to do on bad roads, plus they are a quit comfortable highway tire. Not an easy combination to find. No failures or problems.
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I can't afford their tire prices anymore anyways. Wholy moly!
I took the Schwab quote, plus a print out of the same tires I wanted from an online 4WD supplier sale ad into Americas Tire, and went from $1700 (schwab) to $972 out the door...

They will match ANY price, ANYWHERE.
Same free rotations, flat repair, etc. as Schwab.
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Work truck, I suggest buying used new truck take offs. Save the good tires for hunting trips. Money saved is pure profit
I agree... April thru August... street/road tires, Sept thru March... BFG's
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I would go with a good set of michelins, all season.
Dodge has 50k on the tires and they are still about 30% tread.
Wife just got a set of all season Michelins, sipped them and she loved them this winter. They are rated 80k
I too have seen poor mileage out of all les scwab tires, except toyo.
The toyo's I had got hard and slippery in the cold
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I keep reading good things about DuraTrac's both on and off road so I will likely get them instead of the BFG's next time.

This last winter was my first on the studded dura-tracs, they performed well. I usually would run BFG`s but they quit making the mud terrain and the KO`s are too soft now days. I run Michelins in the summer, those things never seem to wear but have poor traction{great pickup road tire though**. Bill
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Should have asked this from the beginning...what is the largest spare that will fit in the factory under the bed storage location? I want 5 like tires.
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I keep reading good things about DuraTrac's both on and off road so I will likely get them instead of the BFG's next time.

I have 10 of those, 1 set studded. I like them but the Nitto's are hard to beat.
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