Found: Plunking rig - www.ifish.net
The Oregonian's Bill Monroe!

Go Back   www.ifish.net > Ifish Fishing and Hunting > Ifish Community

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-22-2012, 12:59 PM   #1
Joe Schmo
Tuna!
 
Joe Schmo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,895
Default Found: Plunking rig

I found this plunking rig the other day and I figured that I should give the owner an opportunity to claim it before springer season hits its peak. It may unfortunately only be half (or less) of your rig because it was broken off with only four hooks attached, I don't know how many were in the whole setup.

I don't know how it broke since the main "line" is roughly 1000# breaking strength and the leader "line" was probably 500# breaking strength. Note: the eagle claw 11/0 is a solid hook.... perfect plunkin size.

Excellent craftsmanship on the individual "leaders" somebody must've really taken their time, or maybe they just have a lot of experience with this kind of set up.

I will also return the handy dandy "plunkin rock" (not available in stores)

Joe Schmo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 02:16 PM   #2
GorgeCaster
Chromer
 
GorgeCaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Madras, OR
Posts: 682
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

looks like what the tribes use for sturgeon fishing in the Bonneville pool for their season this winter.
GorgeCaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 02:17 PM   #3
KalamaGeo
Sturgeon
 
KalamaGeo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Olympia
Posts: 4,853
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

UM.......can I quietly send you my address and you can just mail it to me?

I did put a lot of work into it....................
__________________
KALAMAGEO
KalamaGeo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 02:18 PM   #4
Salmon Mike
Tuna!
 
Salmon Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,753
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Thanks for pullin that thing outa there Joe! WOW!!
Salmon Mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 02:21 PM   #5
Filthyfisher
Steelhead
 
Filthyfisher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: SW WA
Posts: 111
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Wow, beautiful setup. I hope someone didn't try to huff that out with a pole. Is it 20 ft long? I need to reassess my plunking game, obviously not going hard enough.
Filthyfisher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 02:24 PM   #6
builder
Tuna!
 
builder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Portland
Posts: 1,216
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Kind of looks more like a trotline like they often use for catfish in the south than it does a a plunking setup. I didn't think those were legal in the NW. In Oregon 3 hooks is the max number of hooks you can use for salmon. Not sure what the regs are where you found it but it sure doesn't seem like a rig someone would be using unless they were up to no good?
builder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 02:28 PM   #7
Fshklr
Tuna
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Longview
Posts: 8,475
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

I'm with you builder.

looks like a catfish meat line/hand line.....definately not a plunkin rig.
especially if it was found near tri cities where the op lives.
__________________
Oregon Yellowtail 2010
Fshklr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 02:32 PM   #8
toomanydenny
Chromer
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 556
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Pike minnow bait and diver set up?
toomanydenny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 03:49 PM   #9
DougJr84
Ifish Nate
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Longveiw, Washougal
Posts: 2,175
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

The top end that busted off had a float/marker on it, Im pretty sure. They are like trot lines and i have seen these before well ones like them just mad out of different materials out of the Columbia around Washougal.
DougJr84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 03:50 PM   #10
choppers
Ifish Nate
 
choppers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Ptown
Posts: 2,858
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Wow, what will be next.
choppers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 04:55 PM   #11
Dakgirl
Steelhead
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 293
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

A boat brought on in to Washougal to give to the gammies. I guess they called ahead and made an appointment.

The gammie said they are finding more of them in the Columbia.

The gammie said it is Russians setting trot lines for sturgeon. Similar to how they destroyed their own fishery.


They pulled one near the airport that had about 100 hooks on it. Several undersize sturgeon, dead and alive.
Dakgirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 05:10 PM   #12
DogZilla15
King Salmon
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 14,108
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

I think that's Pink Boot's secret steelhead rig.
DogZilla15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 05:27 PM   #13
Nuttinbutnet
Chromer
 
Nuttinbutnet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Grapeview, WA
Posts: 931
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Hey Joe.......not a plunking rig. Come on down to Meldrum sometime for an education on Plunking!
__________________
IFish Member #69
TEAM RIVERWOLF
MEMBER- BEAVER NATION
Nuttinbutnet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 05:49 PM   #14
Born To Fish 2
Chromer
 
Born To Fish 2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Canby, OR
Posts: 693
Thumbs down Re: Found: Plunking rig

What will it be next.
Born To Fish 2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 05:50 PM   #15
steelers
Steelhead
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 134
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Thought you could only have 3 hooks in oregon. Hmmmmm
steelers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 05:51 PM   #16
Justinfish
Steelhead
 
Justinfish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Portland Or
Posts: 493
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

That sir is a sturgeon snagging rig not a "Plunking rig" like you seem to think. Like the guy above said come to Meldrum bar to see a Plunking rig Or Willow bar for that matter on Sauvie Island.
Justinfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 07:34 PM   #17
gotZem
Chromer
 
gotZem's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: SeaTac WA.
Posts: 831
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Wow! Bet that was "fun" to reel in too!? Makes ya wonder just how many of those are really out there in our river. Bet it's tough reeling it in with 4 sturg on it too. What kind of "rod" would a guy use? Doesn't look too "American" to me.
gotZem!!!
__________________
Happiness is a Warm Gun!
gotZem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 07:39 PM   #18
Skipper Cole
Chromer
 
Skipper Cole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 947
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Yep, that there is a trot line...

Hope I'm wrong, but my instincts tell me that someones doing some sturgeon poaching with that sucker.
__________________

Skipper Cole is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 07:44 PM   #19
chef serg
Ifish Nate
 
chef serg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: vancouver wa
Posts: 3,426
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dakgirl View Post
A boat brought on in to Washougal to give to the gammies. I guess they called ahead and made an appointment.

The gammie said they are finding more of them in the Columbia.

The gammie said it is Russians setting trot lines for sturgeon. Similar to how they destroyed their own fishery.
We just use gill nets.

They pulled one near the airport that had about 100 hooks on it. Several undersize sturgeon, dead and alive.
Do the gammies have evidence or have they convicted someone for using one of these setups that was Russian? Just not right to point a finger at a specific race just because of some gut instinct.

Not saying that the rig is legal and an ethnical way to fish. Just don't want to be that one foreigner boat out in the river getting my boat and contents shaken down because I'm of a different background.
__________________
Can I get a Yellowtail in 2014?
chef serg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 07:47 PM   #20
luvs2fish
Tuna!
 
luvs2fish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Central Oregon
Posts: 1,302
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

that is a Trot line. We used similar ones make out of heavy duty kite string when I lived in Iowa was 13yrs old, we used to catch a lot of channel, and flathead cat's using those. We would only use about 50' and tie around 10 hooks off of it, at the end we used a rock not that big in the pic tied to an end so we could throw it from the bank. for bait we used chicken livers left in the sun for a day or two and tie the other end to a tree branch on the bank. checked it daily.
__________________
A woman who has never seen her husband fishing, doesn't know what a patient man she married!!
luvs2fish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 07:54 PM   #21
Skipper Cole
Chromer
 
Skipper Cole's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 947
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Pretty common practice for catfish in some parts of the country for sure... just not here, and sure as heck aint being set for catfish in the CR. Obviously for sturgeon poaching in this context. I see Serg's point and I dont think it matters what race you are, probably didnt need to go there...

The lines are usually anchored on both ends, with a tag line and a float, and dropped from a boat and left to fish for awhile. There's a good chance theres more of that one out there... and where theres one, there will be more.
__________________

Skipper Cole is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 08:01 PM   #22
Bill Monroe Jr.
Tuna!
 
Bill Monroe Jr.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: On the Water - OR/WA
Posts: 1,901
Thumbs down Re: Found: Plunking rig

Bet ya that was run out and dropped by boat....
__________________
-Team Willie Boats
-Team Arima too!
-Lamiglas Rules


You should always try and Save lives, in order to be able to live life yourself.
Bill Monroe Jr. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 09:42 PM   #23
jimpnl
Chromer
 
jimpnl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Orchards area
Posts: 871
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by builder View Post
Kind of looks more like a trotline like they often use for catfish in the south than it does a a plunking setup. I didn't think those were legal in the NW. In Oregon 3 hooks is the max number of hooks you can use for salmon. Not sure what the regs are where you found it but it sure doesn't seem like a rig someone would be using unless they were up to no good?
Grew up in the south. Our trotlines were going out on the river and hanging liver or worm set ups from a tree, we would slap the tree with a paddle before aproaching to make sure there were no snakes near by...cause this was usualy done at night. We would put reflective tape with our name and number, day, and time that we set it, let it sit for about 2-4 hrs before checking them. Caught some BIG cats that way. My biggest was 65lbs. Always with only one hook setup....nothing like that rig at all.
jimpnl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 09:52 PM   #24
Fishwater
Chromer
 
Fishwater's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Stayton
Posts: 582
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

That obviously can't be a Sturgeon set-up... because those are barbed hooks!

(Thanks for getting that out of the water.)
__________________
....you could cast to help me pass the day....
Fishwater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2012, 10:01 PM   #25
Doublelung
Tuna!
 
Doublelung's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,958
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Definitely looks like a rig used to poach sturgeon.

Might be a wise idea to let LE know where you found it.
Doublelung is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 12:50 AM   #26
Steeliedan
Chromer
 
Steeliedan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chehalem Mt., OR
Posts: 748
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Monroe Jr. View Post
Bet ya that was run out and dropped by boat....
Kayak?
Steeliedan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 08:15 AM   #27
Silver Hilton
King Salmon
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Out in the back forty
Posts: 7,703
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by chef serg View Post
Do the gammies have evidence or have they convicted someone for using one of these setups that was Russian? Just not right to point a finger at a specific race just because of some gut instinct.
Actually, there is quite a bit of history of folks of russian descent, the old russians that are around Woodburn, being caught with both gillnets and trotlines. Here is one example: http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...pg=2966,507671

Here is another: http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=4057,5584601

It would be a mistake to tar all russians with the same brush, but there are enough bad apples in the bunch for the stereotype to be meaningful.
Silver Hilton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 08:51 AM   #28
chef serg
Ifish Nate
 
chef serg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: vancouver wa
Posts: 3,426
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Hilton View Post
Actually, there is quite a bit of history of folks of russian descent, the old russians that are around Woodburn, being caught with both gillnets and trotlines. Here is one example: http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...pg=2966,507671

Here is another: http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=4057,5584601

It would be a mistake to tar all russians with the same brush, but there are enough bad apples in the bunch for the stereotype to be meaningful.
Do everybody a big favor and look at the dates on those articles!!!!!

One was published/posted in 1989 and the other is posted in 1990. You are using 20 and 21 year old ammunition against Russians.

The cold war is over. vladimir putin is going to be president again.

And unless the game wardens have convicted a Russian poacher directly related to this trot line issue on the Columbia, all it is is racial profiling. Plain and simple...

We live in the 21 st century, whatever happened to the innocent until proven guilty?I am not saying that there isn't a possibility of Russians setting those lines, what I'm saying is unless they catch someone of the Russian descent, the gammies should just keep their thoughts and suspicions to themselves.

Rant over.

And yeah, those lines are illegal and not right.
__________________
Can I get a Yellowtail in 2014?
chef serg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 09:09 AM   #29
Silver Hilton
King Salmon
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Out in the back forty
Posts: 7,703
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

OK, here's a more recent one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkE6hm_M2jg . You don't have to look far in Google to find these.

Serg, I'm not tarring all russian folks, and not those of russian descent per se. However, there is a LOT of history in the Portland and Seattle area of old russians and other east europeans showing a fairly casual attitude towards game regulations. I've lived in the area all my life, and these reports are common.

The gamie knows whereof he/she speaks.
Silver Hilton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 07:22 PM   #30
flipperdog
Chromer
 
flipperdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 802
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

holy wodka!! thats the whole ****** rig of me great papa's!! Yah! dat be it. Did it have a large mud bug tyed to it! holy wodka!! lost it up by the big dam. Thanks will pick it up tomorrow!!!!!
__________________
Thank God first!!
flipperdog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 07:38 PM   #31
Jedcraft
Tuna!
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Central Point, OR
Posts: 1,627
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Swamp people lookin' for gators?
Jedcraft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 09:15 PM   #32
alexprihodiko
Steelhead
 
alexprihodiko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 411
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

[QUOTE=Silver Hilton;4061371]Actually, there is quite a bit of history of folks of russian descent, the old russians that are around Woodburn, being caught with both gillnets and trotlines. Here is one example: http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...pg=2966,507671

Here is another: http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=4057,5584601

where did you read that they were "russian" i read both articles and i see nothing that described the nationality, just cause its a different name not of the the english decent does not put them into the category of russians. there are other nationality in europe, example; polish, serbian, romanian, german, yugoslovian..... list goes on. being from a different background and looking at the names listed in the article. that is not "russian", ask any russian or ukrainian out there and they would confirm that. just like in american names there are alot of johns, steves,mikes....etc. each culture has its pattern. these definitly dont fall into the cateogory of "russians". my suggestion is sometimes to leave the nationalitites out of the finger pointing. not smart to just narrow it down to a group of ppl and call them ALL scumbags there's always a bad apple in everybunch.
__________________
my boat runs on gas, not "thanks"

Last edited by alexprihodiko; 03-23-2012 at 09:31 PM.
alexprihodiko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2012, 10:43 PM   #33
Idleyld
Chromer
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 798
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Justinfish View Post
That sir is a sturgeon snagging rig not a "Plunking rig" like you seem to think. Like the guy above said come to Meldrum bar to see a Plunking rig Or Willow bar for that matter on Sauvie Island.
Not really sure but It seems to me the O.P was laying on the sarcasm pretty thick
Idleyld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2012, 10:46 AM   #34
Joe Schmo
Tuna!
 
Joe Schmo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,895
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Naw...sarcasm. Me?
Joe Schmo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2012, 10:50 AM   #35
Idleyld
Chromer
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 798
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Schmo View Post
Naw...sarcasm. Me?
Idleyld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2012, 02:21 PM   #36
flounder pounder
Tuna!
 
flounder pounder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: beaverton reluctantly
Posts: 1,122
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

im glad i dont get all bent out of shape and pull the race card everytime someone of my creed gets the finger pointed at him/her
__________________
If ya knew whydya ask?
flounder pounder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2012, 02:54 PM   #37
mcmahon
Steelhead
 
mcmahon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: In a house
Posts: 317
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

raise the fines by 25 times, and make it a felony
mcmahon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2012, 08:02 PM   #38
Wreckless
King Salmon
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Hillsboro OR
Posts: 7,742
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcmahon View Post
raise the fines by 25 times, and make it a felony
There's a thread on the hunting forum that talks about how fines have NOT kept up with the times. I agree fines for BLATANT, GROSS POACHING should be SEVERE!!!!!!

HAMMER 'EM!!!
__________________
Owner/Operator: "I Can't Believe It's A Guide Service".

"Today's the day"......Mel Fisher
Wreckless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2012, 10:07 PM   #39
Idleyld
Chromer
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 798
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wreckless View Post
There's a thread on the hunting forum that talks about how fines have NOT kept up with the times. I agree fines for BLATANT, GROSS POACHING should be SEVERE!!!!!!

HAMMER 'EM!!!
and strongly at that!!!
Idleyld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2012, 10:20 PM   #40
jimpnl
Chromer
 
jimpnl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Orchards area
Posts: 871
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

All in all i think that often times where there is smoke there is fire.However to place a stigma on a particular nationality of people is wrong....but there ARE some practices that ARE common to certain nationalities and we all know it. With that said I do not think that this site is a place to haggle out our personal feelings or experiences that may offend others when there is nothing positive that could possibly come from doing so..... in other words PLAY NICE PEOPLE!

Last edited by jimpnl; 03-24-2012 at 10:22 PM.
jimpnl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2012, 10:49 PM   #41
Dakgirl
Steelhead
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 293
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by chef serg View Post
Do the gammies have evidence or have they convicted someone for using one of these setups that was Russian? Just not right to point a finger at a specific race just because of some gut instinct.

Not saying that the rig is legal and an ethnical way to fish. Just don't want to be that one foreigner boat out in the river getting my boat and contents shaken down because I'm of a different background.
They said they have several open cases in Or and Wa, involving Russian organizations dealing with sturgeon caviar and meat.
We have snagged a few off steamboat dock.
Dakgirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2012, 12:07 AM   #42
ChuckNorris
Steelhead
 
ChuckNorris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 129
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Chuck Norris disapproves use in US waters.
__________________
Chuck Norris fears no fish!

Last edited by ChuckNorris; 03-25-2012 at 12:10 AM.
ChuckNorris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2012, 07:24 AM   #43
chef serg
Ifish Nate
 
chef serg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: vancouver wa
Posts: 3,426
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuckNorris View Post
Chuck Norris disapproves use in US waters.
Chuck,
I totally agree. No go roundhouse kick the gammies that said it was Russians that were doing this evil deed!!!!or better yet, ground Chuck them
__________________
Can I get a Yellowtail in 2014?
chef serg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2012, 07:36 AM   #44
chef serg
Ifish Nate
 
chef serg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: vancouver wa
Posts: 3,426
Exclamation Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dakgirl View Post
They said they have several open cases in Or and Wa, involving Russian organizations dealing with sturgeon caviar and meat.
We have snagged a few off steamboat dock.
Do all people believe in everything that the guberment tells them? This is a way to turn everyone against people of different ancestry/culture. And as far as the Russian organizations- only ones that come up to my mind is the Bolsheviks, the KGB, the FBR.

Have you been fishing amongst 40 others, to have a questionable game warden walk up to you and check your license? Nobody else got checked that day but you? Only because you were born in a different country and spoke a different language? And now yoy want to tell me that's not racial profiling/harassment? Makes me sick to this day.

It could of been just about anyone that set up those rigs. I just wish we could all grow up and realize its the 21 st century and accept/reject each other based on our actions rather than on the persons birth place. If a guys name is Vladimir or sergey or nikolay each individual can come to a conclusion that the person was a foreinger. But to have the gammies accuse Russians of doing the deeds we have talked about is a bit over the edge.

One of these days someone will get ticked off about it and rake them to the cleaners- might even be me.
__________________
Can I get a Yellowtail in 2014?

Last edited by chef serg; 03-25-2012 at 07:37 AM.
chef serg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2012, 08:06 AM   #45
flounder pounder
Tuna!
 
flounder pounder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: beaverton reluctantly
Posts: 1,122
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by chef serg View Post
Do all people believe in everything that the guberment tells them? This is a way to turn everyone against people of different ancestry/culture. And as far as the Russian organizations- only ones that come up to my mind is the Bolsheviks, the KGB, the FBR.

Have you been fishing amongst 40 others, to have a questionable game warden walk up to you and check your license? Nobody else got checked that day but you? Only because you were born in a different country and spoke a different language? And now yoy want to tell me that's not racial profiling/harassment? Makes me sick to this day.

It could of been just about anyone that set up those rigs. I just wish we could all grow up and realize its the 21 st century and accept/reject each other based on our actions rather than on the persons birth place. If a guys name is Vladimir or sergey or nikolay each individual can come to a conclusion that the person was a foreinger. But to have the gammies accuse Russians of doing the deeds we have talked about is a bit over the edge.

One of these days someone will get ticked off about it and rake them to the cleaners- might even be me.
I'd love to see that!you would end up in a world of trouble there comrad. why dont you just accept that the people of the great northwest are aware of whats going on around here and who some of the peoples involved no one is trying to pin everything on "the russians" but you have been provided the evidence that the fine and great people of russuia have and will be continue to get caught doing this kinda stuff as well as may other races i reccomend you get off your soapbox and quit acting like the great defender of all things soviet its annoying and racist and once again good luck on "taking a gamey to the cleaners someday" let me know how that works out for you
__________________
If ya knew whydya ask?

Last edited by flounder pounder; 03-25-2012 at 08:23 AM.
flounder pounder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2012, 08:09 AM   #46
IDWITHELD
Sturgeon
 
IDWITHELD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 3,963
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Get caught using this gear and you get a round house to the head by Chuck Norris!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuckNorris View Post
Chuck Norris disapproves use in US waters.
__________________
Practice Catch and Release on All Sizes of Sturgeon
IDWITHELD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2012, 09:06 AM   #47
Woody
Sturgeon
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,317
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by chef serg View Post
Do all people believe in everything that the guberment tells them? This is a way to turn everyone against people of different ancestry/culture. And as far as the Russian organizations- only ones that come up to my mind is the Bolsheviks, the KGB, the FBR.

Have you been fishing amongst 40 others, to have a questionable game warden walk up to you and check your license? Nobody else got checked that day but you? Only because you were born in a different country and spoke a different language? And now yoy want to tell me that's not racial profiling/harassment? Makes me sick to this day.

It could of been just about anyone that set up those rigs. I just wish we could all grow up and realize its the 21 st century and accept/reject each other based on our actions rather than on the persons birth place. If a guys name is Vladimir or sergey or nikolay each individual can come to a conclusion that the person was a foreinger. But to have the gammies accuse Russians of doing the deeds we have talked about is a bit over the edge.

One of these days someone will get ticked off about it and rake them to the cleaners- might even be me.
Original Salty Pup, since Jan. of 2011?? Really!?

Instead of looking outward and trying to blame government or game enforcement, maybe you should look inward towards your own community. Be honest, you know who they are. Perhaps it's unfair to paint an entire group with a broad brush, but there is a nugget of truth in there. Court records prove that. The group needs to police their own and change the culture of ignoring laws.
Woody is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2012, 10:16 AM   #48
death roe
Chromer
 
death roe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: newberg
Posts: 853
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

very well stated woody
death roe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2012, 07:15 PM   #49
Alaska2Oregon
 
Alaska2Oregon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Beaverton, Or.
Posts: 289
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Having spent most of my life in Alaska, I have known many Russians. Most that I have known are fine folks. I have also known a few that have had a total disregard for fish and game laws in Alaska. That said, I didn't go pointing fingers toward the russian villages if I found a poached moose or a pile of salmon heads on the river bank!
I have known plenty of people not of Russian decent; just plain 'ol "Americans", that have been just as blatant, when it came to breaking the law!
Maybe it's time for those of you that want to point your fingers, and accuse because of race, to get off of your soap boxes, take a long hard look at what is at the base of our country's justice system... Does "innocent until proven guilty" ring a bell?
There is plenty of "stereotyping" and "profiling" that can be levied against us "good 'ol boys", too.
Even if it turns out to be a Russian that get's caught, I'm sure it won't be long before a non-Russian get's nabbed.
Alaska2Oregon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2012, 07:35 PM   #50
steeltime
Steelhead
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 153
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaska2Oregon View Post
Having spent most of my life in Alaska, I have known many Russians. Most that I have known are fine folks. I have also known a few that have had a total disregard for fish and game laws in Alaska. That said, I didn't go pointing fingers toward the russian villages if I found a poached moose or a pile of salmon heads on the river bank!
I have known plenty of people not of Russian decent; just plain 'ol "Americans", that have been just as blatant, when it came to breaking the law!
Maybe it's time for those of you that want to point your fingers, and accuse because of race, to get off of your soap boxes, take a long hard look at what is at the base of our country's justice system... Does "innocent until proven guilty" ring a bell?
There is plenty of "stereotyping" and "profiling" that can be levied against us "good 'ol boys", too.
Even if it turns out to be a Russian that get's caught, I'm sure it won't be long before a non-Russian get's nabbed.
To point fingers at a specific race is wrong. That's like saying every time a deer or elk gets poached it's most likely an American.
steeltime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2012, 01:53 PM   #51
Pasco_steelhdr
Steelhead
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Pasco, WA
Posts: 469
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by flounder pounder View Post
...no one is trying to pin everything on "the russians" but you have been provided the evidence that the fine and great people of russuia have and will be continue to get caught doing this kinda stuff as well as may other races i reccomend you get off your soapbox and quit acting like the great defender of all things soviet...
You sure they were Russian and not Ukrainian? Maybe even Bosnian or Serb? It all sort of sounds the same to me. Just sayin'. BTW the Soviet Union disappeared a while ago. Long, long before that happened the use of capitalization and punctuation became fashionable too.

I feel better now. Been spreading too much good cheer lately and it didn't feel quite right.
Pasco_steelhdr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2012, 02:02 PM   #52
stupenny5
Tuna!
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: albany
Posts: 1,162
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

if you use wire leader to the hooks last longer but to light of swivels.
stupenny5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2012, 02:10 PM   #53
flounder pounder
Tuna!
 
flounder pounder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: beaverton reluctantly
Posts: 1,122
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasco_steelhdr View Post
You sure they were Russian and not Ukrainian? Maybe even Bosnian or Serb? It all sort of sounds the same to me. Just sayin'. BTW the Soviet Union disappeared a while ago. Long, long before that happened the use of capitalization and punctuation became fashionable too.

I feel better now. Been spreading too much good cheer lately and it didn't feel quite right.
well smarty pants i was quoting serge who used the term "russians" and i suppose anyone of measurable intelligence could figure that the term is being used loosley to encompass a larger ethnic group including some of the peoples you mentioned as far as your cheap shot regarding my writing skills allow me to explain im typing to get a point across not to get an a in english class i take it you got what is was saying even though i didnt use correct capitalization and punctuation didnt you? but then again maybe its because your obviously so intelligent that you were able to figure out my messy writing, so really what point were you trying to make if any at all?
__________________
If ya knew whydya ask?
flounder pounder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2012, 02:22 PM   #54
Pasco_steelhdr
Steelhead
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Pasco, WA
Posts: 469
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by flounder pounder View Post
but then again maybe its because your obviously so intelligent that you were able to figure out my messy writing, so really what point were you trying to make if any at all?
Why thanks. I am pretty sharp. Wasn't necessarily trying to make a point as much as trying to help a brother IFisher out. Its easier to make a point when you aren't wearing a "I'm a Tool" tee shirt. Like they said in the movie - Chump don't want da help chump don't get no help."
Pasco_steelhdr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2012, 02:43 PM   #55
Vandal_57
Chromer
 
Vandal_57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Vancouver/Eagle
Posts: 586
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasco_steelhdr View Post
Why thanks. I am pretty sharp. Wasn't necessarily trying to make a point as much as trying to help a brother IFisher out. Its easier to make a point when you aren't wearing a "I'm a Tool" tee shirt. Like they said in the movie - Chump don't want da help chump don't get no help."

Vandal_57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2012, 03:00 PM   #56
Pasco_steelhdr
Steelhead
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Pasco, WA
Posts: 469
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Sorry all and especially to the pounded flounder. My last post wasn't cool.
Pasco_steelhdr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2012, 03:53 PM   #57
Idleyld
Chromer
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 798
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasco_steelhdr View Post
Why thanks. I am pretty sharp. Wasn't necessarily trying to make a point as much as trying to help a brother IFisher out. Its easier to make a point when you aren't wearing a "I'm a Tool" tee shirt. Like they said in the movie - Chump don't want da help chump don't get no help."
Pasco, you're crackin me up man

On a serious note, keep the racial profiling out of it. D-Bags come of all shapes, colors, and sizes.
Idleyld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2012, 07:11 AM   #58
flounder pounder
Tuna!
 
flounder pounder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: beaverton reluctantly
Posts: 1,122
Default Re: Found: Plunking rig

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasco_steelhdr View Post
Sorry all and especially to the pounded flounder. My last post wasn't cool.
it's all good asco-steelhdr your appology made me warm all over
__________________
If ya knew whydya ask?
flounder pounder is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Cast to



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:20 AM.

Terms of Service
Page generated in 1.13895 seconds with 79 queries