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Old 08-20-2009, 08:21 AM   #1
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anybody hunting over in murders creek this year? I dont want your honey hole, but just a place to start. Also, i am not looking for trophy elk or deer, but just meat to pack home. Any ideas will be thankful.

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Old 08-20-2009, 08:36 AM   #2
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Head for Seneca and cut in from there.
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Old 08-20-2009, 08:53 AM   #3
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If the weather is hot out there this year then John Young Meadows and Dead Horse Mountain will be pretty good places to start. Pretty much any where off of forest service road 24 you will find good places
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Also, i am not looking for trophy elk or deer, but just meat to pack home. Any ideas will be thankful.
Plenty of feral horses out there, feel free to take as many home as you want.
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Stop in at the Fireside lodge on top of Dixie Pass and talk to Chuck. He's always good for some info and loves to bs.
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Head for Seneca and cut in from there.
Thanks for the tip. You guys are awsome.
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If the weather is hot out there this year then John Young Meadows and Dead Horse Mountain will be pretty good places to start. Pretty much any where off of forest service road 24 you will find good places
Thanks! I will check it out and if I am lucky, will post some pix. Thanks again. Good luck to all ifish hunters. It is only 8 more days to happiness.
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:48 PM   #8
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If the weather is hot out there this year then John Young Meadows and Dead Horse Mountain will be pretty good places to start. Pretty much any where off of forest service road 24 you will find good places

They are pounding the area with Helicopters chasing horses right now.. Who knows where the elk will be... I know they will not hang out with that BS going on..
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Not our beloved horses? They using rifles to herd them with?
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Old 08-20-2009, 07:58 PM   #10
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Great time to catch wild horses..... I wonder if they are screwing up the archery hunting on purpose, or if they just lack good sense. This will definitely change where the elk are hanging out. I'll bet they end up up on Aldrich or clear over in Widow's Creek.
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I hope they end up on Aldrich
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Old 08-20-2009, 10:00 PM   #12
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Plenty of feral horses out there, feel free to take as many home as you want.
Saw 16 of them on Monday while up there. Talked with a BLM guy who was up there with others trying to round them up. He said as of Monday they've gotten 59 and are hoping to get 100 this year.
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Old 08-21-2009, 04:55 AM   #13
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Saw 16 of them on Monday while up there. Talked with a BLM guy who was up there with others trying to round them up. He said as of Monday they've gotten 59 and are hoping to get 100 this year.
A drop in the bucket, they have at least 500 to pick from and there's supposed to be 125? or so in the whole South Fork drainage. 25 years ago you'd bump into a little herd of horses now and then, no big deal. Now the damn things are everywhere! They've run alot of the elk off the mahogany ridges where the bulls used to live and thrive.

I could go on and on, but it's just that I remember how good the elk hunting USED to be in Murderers Creek.
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Old 08-21-2009, 07:59 AM   #14
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There are about 500 horses on the Umatilla Indian Reservation and 5,000 on the Warm Springs Indian Reservation. The reservations are trying to come up with a solution. They have to have 100% support from the tribe I believe to do anything about them. A few people are keeping that from happening. Letís hope we don't see more units being affected by those feral horses.


Good luck if you end up hunting in Murders Cr.
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There are about 500 horses on the Umatilla Indian Reservation and 5,000 on the Warm Springs Indian Reservation. The reservations are trying to come up with a solution. They have to have 100% support from the tribe I believe to do anything about them. A few people are keeping that from happening. Letís hope we don't see more units being affected by those feral horses.


Good luck if you end up hunting in Murders Cr.
Do you guys think they will let us shoot it? Never taste a horse before but never hurt to try either.
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:53 AM   #16
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Sh*tters....coyotes gotta eat too!
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:18 PM   #17
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bring back memories BigBull1?
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Old 08-21-2009, 03:15 PM   #18
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bring back memories BigBull1?
awsome pix. For those people who have pix of game in murders creek, could you post your trophies. Thanks.... it will raise the blood levels up.
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Yes it does bring some back. That was a long way back out.
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Old 08-21-2009, 10:21 PM   #20
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bring back memories BigBull1?
The land looks flat in the pic compared to the northside of Aldrich and the hole south of the lookout!
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Looks can be very misleading, I think that was the only flat section on the whole mountain. At least it seemed like it at the time.
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Old 08-22-2009, 07:27 AM   #22
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wasnt aldridge but can tell you that was the only flat spot there, it was a pain packing out cause it went all up hill from there to pick-up i would say at least four miles. i dont know what is with me hunting that unit but i always get one and see alot of bulls. last 2 seasons i've hunted there have seen a total of 11 bulls-8 branch-3 spikes. and yes alot of horses last time i was there.
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Old 08-23-2009, 02:11 PM   #23
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come to think of it...there isn't an elk within 50 miles of that unit!
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Old 08-23-2009, 02:24 PM   #24
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Still a lot of horse left, maybe not so many around John Young Meadows. Camped at Oregon Mine on the creek for a couple of days and had a herd of 15 come through camp (twice). Seen scattered bunches. Horse manure in large piles all over the roads.

Man, it is criminal what has happened to the deer herd in there, very sad situation!
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Great time to catch wild horses..... I wonder if they are screwing up the archery hunting on purpose, or if they just lack good sense. This will definitely change where the elk are hanging out. I'll bet they end up up on Aldrich or clear over in Widow's Creek.
Yep it serves to break up the herds and spread the elk out. ive found when hunting that contry Scouting beyond the roads is a waist of time because the week before season Fish and Game bust up the elk then the cow punchers come through and round up there "cattle" and the elk are gone. but you can find them fairly quick it only takes a day or two.
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Yep it serves to break up the herds and spread the elk out. ive found when hunting that contry Scouting beyond the roads is a waist of time because the week before season Fish and Game bust up the elk then the cow punchers come through and round up there "cattle" and the elk are gone. but you can find them fairly quick it only takes a day or two.
We saw no moo cows while we were in there.
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We saw no moo cows while we were in there.

None, I think they are barred by injunction right now. We saw new fences going up along Murderers Creek on the way in from Seneca towards the work center, I suppose the FS thinks if they fence out the creeks the cattle can return. Wished they would have put the fences on the off side of the road instead of inboard by the creek, some recreational spots will have cow patties in them now.

Best looking grass in years up there.
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None, I think they are barred by injunction right now. We saw new fences going up along Murderers Creek on the way in from Seneca towards the work center, I suppose the FS thinks if they fence out the creeks the cattle can return. Wished they would have put the fences on the off side of the road instead of inboard by the creek, some recreational spots will have cow patties in them now.

Best looking grass in years up there.
I heard some enviro groups are suing the USFS and the Cattleman's Assoc. over grazing. Some ranchers have been selling off their herd. Or so I was told by a local.
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I heard some enviro groups are suing the USFS and the Cattleman's Assoc. over grazing. Some ranchers have been selling off their herd. Or so I was told by a local.
Well good I think the deer and elk could use that feed.
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