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#1 ·
Any word? It seems to be that by now SOMEBODY would have the results to share...... I just know that it has to be time......:excited:
 
#9 ·
2012 Big Game Raffle WinnersStatewide CombinationHometownWinner: Jamie JacksonKlamath Falls, OR1st Alternate: Donald MontgomeryJacksonville, OR 2nd Alternate:Mark Beard Silverton, ORStatewide DeerWinner: Gerald WarnockPortland, OR1st Alternate:Michael SkinnerJordan Valley, OR2nd Alternate:Denise RisingKlamath Falls, ORSoutheast Oregon DeerWinner: Patrick WheelerHines, OR 1st Alternate:Robert BertschyHillsboro, OR2nd Alternate:Douglas CallahanWarren, ORCentral Oregon DeerWinner:Lonnie HeislerSpringfield, OR1st Alternate:Drake AbramsBeaverton, OR2nd Alternate:Jack ReichRedmond, ORNortheast Oregon DeerWinner:Raymond WurdingerDayton, OR1st Alternate:Dennis McGantyMcMinnville, OR2nd Alternate:John WagnerTalent, ORStatewide ElkWinner:Jeffrey HamiltonKlamath Falls, OR1st Alternate:David Hale Jr.Monmouth, OR2nd Alternate:Leonard HannaHeppner, ORNortheast Oregon ElkWinner:Marvin DuncanSherwood, OR1st Alternate:Jake SpieringBeaverton, OR2nd Alternate:Thomas BakerAdams, ORSoutheast/Central ElkWinner:Michael SheetsRedmond, OR1st Alternate:Michael DingemanKeizer, OR2nd Alternate:Richard MeierKeizer, ORWestern Oregon ElkWinner:Mike McGantyMcMinnville, OR1st Alternate:Kenneth WilsonCoquille, OR 2nd Alternate:Raymond WurdingerDayton, ORRocky Mountain GoatWinner:Willame GaroutteGrants Pass, OR1st Alternate:Daniel JacksonLa Grande, OR2nd Alternate:Matthew HaggertyMoses Lake, WAPronghorn AntelopeWinner:Stanley BurkeSweet Home, OR1st Alternate:Terry JohnsonThe Dalles, OR2nd Alternate:Gregory ParrottSherwood, ORBighorn SheepWinner:Thomas SeimearsRainier, OR1st Alternate:Samuel GarroutteAptos, CA2nd Alternate:Michael CarpinitoKent, WA
 
#14 ·
I know that several people who did not even play this year. They did not like how the Raffle counts were handled in prior years by Matt Keenan. He is playing games with tag numbers so a very very very large amount of money was left out of this years raffle maybe someday. When someone buys multiple thounsands of dollars in deer and elk raffle tickets and they are bought for that specific hunt AH hunt naming specifically either Statewide deer/elk or SE Oregon or central oregon deer or Western Oregon elk tickets they will put the number at the time they are sold. Not when he gets around too it.

Too many people do not trust ODFW to handle there 5-20k dollars of raffle tickets. To make sure all of the tickets are put in and want to put them in themselves. But So when you go and buy your tickets remember Matt is holding back lots of tickets that have been bought just not put into the drawing.

I would say that Access and habitat lost close upwards of 75k-100k in funds because of matt's games.

Dave Antley
 
#16 ·
If it were possible to decode your grammar and fragmented thoughts, it might be possible to determine the form of corruption of which you're accusing ODFW. If not, forget it.
 
#15 ·
I did not play this year because I never have, but it sounds to me like you are complaining about ODFW doing exactly what they say they will. Ticket numbers for those hunts are posted when they are entered, not when they are purchased. :shrug:

But hey, let's argue about the raffle hunts again. We haven't done it for a few days, and it's always fun! :wink:

QQ
 
#22 · (Edited)
The "Irony" of 1 rich person complaining about another "RICHER" person really makes me think- " I don't care" Seem some people have lost touch with what many people consider REAL money problems:twocents:

I WISH I could be upset that my 750 tickets didn't have as much value as I had hoped.......
 
#23 · (Edited)
WOW gosh I did not know I was rich. Pinching and scrimping for a couple of years for a few hundred dollars at a shot at a raffle tag.

But since I am rich Heck I should go on my Unimak Island brown bear hunt I got drawn for. A once in a lifetime hunt with odds of 1 in 2800 of drawing the tag. No Problem for a rich guy like me heck 18000 guide fee, three grand in Airfare, 7500 mount no problem just a drop in the bucket. Just go write a check for it all

When in all actuality.

I am passing on one of the greatest and most sought after hunts in North America. Because I am not rich. I cannot do this hunt on the cheap because a my brother in-laws friend was killed. So evertything went sideways.

I am not rich by a longshot and 750 dollars in raffle tickets is huge. When you are trying to get the best odds for your money that is what you do. Put it where your odds are the best. That is what I am complaining about.
 
#25 ·
If you are not buying raffle tickets as a donation then your motivation is off. Gambling is for the casino and $750 on red might turn it into $1500 or $0
 
#28 ·
If you are not buying raffle tickets as a donation then your motivation is off.
I disagree. There are three ways to get a sheep tag: (1) draw it, (2) buy it through the auction, or (3) win it in the raffle. If you don't have a disposable $120,000, then the raffle is your only supplemental chance to the regular draw. The fact that the money is benefitting wildlife is a 'feel-good' bonus, but I wouldn't kid myself that most of those buying raffle tickets are doing it with the primary motivation being an awesome tag.

That is the sheep example, but comparable reasoning holds true for the other raffle tags.
 
#26 ·
I am fully aware it is a donation Trust me I donate alot. Just like buying lottery tickets or Black Jack or any other game of chance. I just like having a good idea about my odds at the time. Not have them be half of what they were told to me.

What they should do is just have them all be preselected and that way we all know the odds and what they are before the draw just like sheep, antelope, or governors tag.
 
#29 ·
So Oregonhunt, I'm guessing you didn't draw?

If I am understanding what you are saying correctly, I agree with you. ODFW should be reporting the number of tickets sold, not the number of tickets entered.

E
 
#30 ·
I could care a less about the number of tickets sold or entered. If I buy raffle tickets for any of the categories, what does it matter how many people have put in? I still just have the number of chances I purchased, that number does not change. Now I understand that if I have 100 chances and I put in for a hunt that only has 1000 sold or entered I have a 10% chance of drawing as opposed to a hunt that has 10,000 sold or entered. But I still just have 100 chances to be drawn.
Really what concerns me with the raffles is the same individuals seem to win the raffles each year. I understand they may make a substantial investment into each raffle each year, but I see where Ray Wurdinger got another raffle tag. What is that three years in a row for one of the deer or elk tags. How many tickets does it take to ensure this success? That is the number I want from ODFW and then I will make the decision on whether to spend that money of those tags.
 
#31 ·
How many tickets does it take to ensure this success? That is the number I want from ODFW and then I will make the decision on whether to spend that money of those tags.
A boat load, he probably drops $7-$10K, at least that is my guess to get that much success.
 
#37 ·
Rather than cut and paste all day, I will just point out that there are people who are buying those tags. Look at the names..
ODFW should have an auction if there going to do it this way..
Put us all in a room and let us bid on the hunts...
Then put a fishbowl out, one entry per person and do a REAL raffle..
No one hate more than me to go to a fundraiser and have one guy win everything he bought like 5,000 tickets and then ran around and put them in all the boxes..
Kind of ruins it for the other guys who are spending $100 and never winning anything.
In those cases, I believe you should auction stuff off. If it is a true fundraiser, then raise funds.
 
#41 ·
If donating money is your only concern then just go to your local ODFW office and write them a check. The idea with a raffle is to motivate people to donate by offering something special. The key word is "motivate". Once the motivation is gone, people loose interest. I don't think that makes them bad people. When you play any game, you expect the sponsor of the game to play by the rules that were set before the game started. I believe the biggest problem is that ODFW has not done a good enough job of explaining the rules to everyone's satisfaction. If they want to run the raffle the way that they currently do, just say so, so people can make an informed decision going in.
 
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