Lets just say for example, that the mortality rate set for the "selective, live capture" seine net is 0%. That means it wouldnt kill any non-target or esa listed fish.
How much time would nets be on the water catching hatchery fish?
1. Answer: almost all the time.
How much better would sport fishing be with all that hatchery fish taken out of the river by seine nets right in front of you?
2. Answer: um..I dont think I like just being able to catch natives and then throw them back. That is not my idea of a good time, I like to catch fish and then bring it home and eat it.
What about the Buoy 10 fishery in the lower river, we would get to fish in front of the seine nets then? We do pretty good down there in the lower columbia.
3. Answer: well..actually alot of those fish caught in the buoy 10 fishery are headed for the Youngs Bay where they were raised by the netters in pens. Gillnetting will be banned in Youngs Bay..so those fish will immediatly stop being raised and they will no longer be available to you.
But the CCA says it will only be a few Seine boats. What about that?
4. Answer: What difference would the number of seine boats make if they are catching large volumes of the hatchery fish? How about seine boats fishing every day or every other day all spring long instead of nets being in the water 18 hrs this spring. I highly reccomend doing your own research before drinking the CCA cool-aid.
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1. you did not read the initiative.
What requires the govt to keep exactly the same rules regarding allocation? Other rivers do not use the 2% impact equation. You act like you are owed for those ESA fish you do not kill. You will not be rewarded with the allocation of others for killing less wild fish. Govt could not get away with it They wont trade sportfishing community dollars for commercial harvest dollars, when clearly sport creates more revenue for the states.
2. you did not read the initiative. Lets say you have 0 impacts. State says anglers will fish up to their 2% and then allow the nets to fill the rest of their estimated quota in conjunction with the tribal sharing and buffer agreements. That way the up river folks get a season. What bible verse says commercial harvest will always go first?
Fact is, the summer crab season in Puget sound is done like that. Sports fish and the commercials get whats left over in the quota. They went to court twice and lost.
3. Buoy 10 is a hazardous fishery and only larger boats go there. As you guys say, a lot of fish scales hit the water, and more wild fish are impacted there, so just maybe the buoy 10 fishery might get reworked to let more fish thru to the safe areas where more small boats could access them safely. It would also cut down on wild impacts. If no nets are allowed in those areas, then the limits could be increased, dropping the sport impact total.
4. Seines were on the drawing board before CCA showed up in PNW. At every turn, the "experts" have been wrong about the "effective ability" for seines to catch fish in the lower river. They were also wrong about the impacts from seine nets. Some considered a drop to be possible but considered 10% impacts to be the norm. Only off by 90%. Whether the number of seiners be 10 or 100, they will still have to share the quota limits set before and updated during the season. With so few impacts, you could end up with a hard number of hatchery fish for a quota. Overharvest at your peril. Its your wallet.
Whats funny is that, IF you were going to catch all the fish, you would have taped off the mouths of anyone with a big mouth. Somehow more fish is a threat to you? You are so, so compassionate for those who seek to end your way of fishing. :flowered: not biting.... 6 posts in your camp and you are not a gillnetter?
BTW if you really understood the use of the koolaid term, you might not use it. KIDS were given the koolaid by syringe squirted into their mouths and murdered. It was not a mass suicide.