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Forum: Fish & Game Management 07-16-2014, 04:17 PM
Replies: 88
Views: 3,039
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: WFC Files 60-Day Notice Against Leavenworth Hatchery

Not sure you read the entire report as it and HSRG are very supportive of hatchery programs and have very specific criteria for reforms that would make hatchery practices better.

In most cases...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 06-14-2014, 03:54 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 3,641
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: odfw is short $34 million

Would someone be considered a consumptive user if they built their house, business or city in fish or game habitat or utlized a water source, power source, road system or other infrastructure that...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 05-18-2014, 06:26 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 2,818
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: Study on Upper Willamette Spring Chinook

So you are now saying that negative impacts created by hatchery fish, harvest and other factors no matter how insignificant are equal to the negative impact of in river habitat contrary to almost...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 05-18-2014, 04:41 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 2,818
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: Study on Upper Willamette Spring Chinook

Can you poll your experts with fisheries degrees and ask them to quantify how big of an impact hatchery fish breeding with wild fish is at the population level.

I thought it was your belief and...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 04-30-2014, 06:52 AM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,454
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: Catch and Release regs should be changed

The study seeks to determine if angler caught broodstock are more likely to bite as opposed to those that either return to the hatchery without being caught or those that are procured from a trap...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 04-29-2014, 05:50 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,454
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: Catch and Release regs should be changed

Your opinion is, well your opinion, in order for it to matter it needs to be scientifically verified.

Fact is there was a study done on bass, all of which were wild, which determined that those...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 04-29-2014, 02:58 PM
Replies: 69
Views: 3,454
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: Catch and Release regs should be changed

They are studying if angler caught broodstock (in this case wild parents) are more likely to produce hatchery fish that bite and comparing those results to trap caught broodstock (again wild...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 04-14-2014, 04:45 PM
Replies: 73
Views: 4,555
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: can you handle the truth?

Misinformed it is, thanks for the confirmation.
Forum: Fish & Game Management 04-14-2014, 04:12 AM
Replies: 73
Views: 4,555
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: can you handle the truth?

The fact is we are not over planting or over harvesting steelhead. Plants have been reduced by nearly 2/3's from historical highs and are located in the lower portions of our rivers so that hatchery...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 04-13-2014, 11:12 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 5,289
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: CCA launches petition to protect sound steelhead hatchery program

CCA Oregon is fully engaged in the hatchery debate.

Here is our position on hatcheries:


CCA Oregon Position on Hatchery Funding and Reform (Adopted Dec. 8, 2013)
"CCA Oregon supports the...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 04-13-2014, 07:47 AM
Replies: 73
Views: 4,555
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: can you handle the truth?

I could not possibly post a reply that would do a better job of showing how misguided you are than what you accomplish with your replies above. Thanks
Forum: Fish & Game Management 04-12-2014, 04:33 PM
Replies: 73
Views: 4,555
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: can you handle the truth?

Most hatchery programs are not supplementation programs they are augmentation programs meant to provide abundance while we work on repairing the damage that has been caused by our footprint on the...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 04-12-2014, 03:38 PM
Replies: 73
Views: 4,555
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: can you handle the truth?

Removing hatchery fish does not result in rivers that are restored it results in rivers that are fish museums with wild populations that track identical to those areas where hatchery fish are still...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 04-12-2014, 10:51 AM
Replies: 73
Views: 4,555
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: can you handle the truth?

What this indicates is we should improve hatchery practices not eliminate or further reduce them. We need to stop selecting for traits that nature selects against, we need to use localized stock and...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 02-21-2014, 02:56 PM
Replies: 536
Views: 25,702
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: Victory on the Sandy

Scrubs,

My bad! I did not say and did not mean to imply that the size of male steelhead is a determinate factor in reproductive fitness where both a wild and hatchery male find themselves in a...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 02-21-2014, 10:50 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,068
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: upper Deschutes salmon and steelhead question

It is likely that progeny of these wild fish will return and be considered natural origin spawners at which time they will be subject to ESA protections. The list of issues that could arise from...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 02-21-2014, 10:01 AM
Replies: 536
Views: 25,702
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: Victory on the Sandy

"The similarity of Sandy spring chinook salmon with those of upper Willamette River origin is likely the result of extensive stocking for many years of spring chinook salmon from the Clackamas...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 02-21-2014, 07:18 AM
Replies: 536
Views: 25,702
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: Victory on the Sandy

For the sake of discussion it really does not matter what we as individuals think about the native no native issue as at least in Oregon there exists a legal definition within the Native Fish...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 02-20-2014, 04:24 PM
Replies: 199
Views: 9,529
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: Updated science in hatchery/wild debate!

Wasn't a good deal of the $5 million spent on habitat improvements.
Forum: Fish & Game Management 02-20-2014, 11:49 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,052
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: Record run in the fall of 2013 hatchery or wild???

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13929291030118&key=8d4ab0d4bc5d008e79c45b5c431f9497&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ifish.net%2Fboard%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D597289%26page%3D9&v=1&lib...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 02-19-2014, 05:20 PM
Replies: 536
Views: 25,702
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: Victory on the Sandy

According to the ODFW person in charge of PST there was recently a 15% reduction in Southeast Alaska and 30% off the coast of west Vancouver Island. I confirmed this but will check again.
Forum: Fish & Game Management 02-18-2014, 10:21 PM
Replies: 199
Views: 9,529
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: Updated science in hatchery/wild debate!

In the above example you are assuming that the bottleneck in widget production is the number of work stations when in fact it could be a shipping or receiving issue.
Forum: Fish & Game Management 02-18-2014, 10:14 PM
Replies: 199
Views: 9,529
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: Updated science in hatchery/wild debate!

Contact the researcher and ask him the questions you have.

Off the top of my head I can think of, in addition to the Nehalem the upper Clackamas, Miami, Tillamook, Smith,Beaver Creek. Molalla,...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 02-18-2014, 05:34 PM
Replies: 199
Views: 9,529
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: Updated science in hatchery/wild debate!

Not asked of me but I would say your question is not tough at all. What the study is saying is that, while individual reproductive fitness might be reduced by hatcheries, that is only one factor and...
Forum: Fish & Game Management 02-17-2014, 08:40 PM
Replies: 199
Views: 9,529
Posted By Jack Smith
Re: Updated science in hatchery/wild debate!

With all due respect during the height of hatchery production there was no way to determine how many wild fish there were. Hatch boxes were every where, hatchery programs were much larger than...
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