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hydrascott
03-08-2005, 10:49 PM
Hey guys, I live down here in the Sacramento area and have been eves dropping on this site for about a year. Great site!. But I have a question for a lot of you.
I see that most people have Alumawelds, North Rivers, Fish rites, Etc.
I fish the Sacramento River Delta system down here out of my Alumaweld and have found that it does not do good in the wind or chop/rollers over 3'. My boat is a mild semi-v.
I see that most of your guys have sleds, or very shallow hulls. I've been to the Columbia. In fact, I used to drive from Portland to Boise every year. What do you guys do when the wind comes up? Go home? I also see that a lot of you are fishing salt in these boats. A C-Dory or a Farallon I could do but not my Alumaweld.
So, what's the story up there? I just can't imagine that my boat is the only one that doesn't take rough water well enough to fish out of when the weather gets nasty.
Thanks in advance for your response.
Salmonator
03-08-2005, 11:12 PM
What do you guys do when the wind comes up? Go home?
Nope, most stay out until every filling in thier teeth falls out :crazy:. Ok, I'm only half joking :eek:. A 12 degree hull hurts just as much in Owreegon as it does in Cali. The only practical reason to own a flat or nearly flat hull is for running shallow. If you did a survey, I'll bet that less than 10% of aluminum boat owners with 14 degrees of deadrise or less actually NEED 14 degrees or less for the species they chase. Why they are so popular is beyond me. I've owned a flat-bottom alumaweld, a 22' 12 degree inboard, and now a 20' deep-V tupperware boat. I guess it is a form of evolution, as the latter tool brings the most meat back to the cave :grin:
Mo Money
03-09-2005, 06:20 AM
How shallow is your hull and what size is your boat?Iagree with the last post choppy cold water is the same all over.Those 21 NR boats have a 42 entry and 18 at the transom probably a lot more than yours.That should eat up that chop pretty good.I know what you mean about those wind and current waves on the main rivers in the delta ,they can make your fillings fall out of your teeth if riding in a small boat.My current boat is a 24 fiberglass that has no problem but Ive been out in smaller boats with flat hulls,the pounding is to much for me.I got a 21 NR on order that I think will be a perfect match for our Nor Cal waters.
backlash442
03-09-2005, 08:04 AM
I think the guys that run out in the ocean in the shallow hulls choose their days to fish very carefully. I also think you aren't the only one who gets his teeth rattled when the weather kicks up. Everyone has their own opinion on how a boat handles though. Some will swear that their boat doesn't pound and cuts through chop just fine. Others will disagree whole heartedly. As an example I test rode the NR Mariner. I thought it pounded even in small chop on the river. The dealer told me it pounded. I talked to a guy who owned one up at Lake Crowley who told me it pounded when the wind came up and said it was the only thing he disliked. But there are guys on this site who swear it doesn't pound. To each his own. I ended up buying a Seahawk because it doesn't pound in the smaller stuff (any boat will pound if it's rough enough) imo. More importantly it fit my needs.
BTW I used to own a Davis Boat and that boat pounded uphill so much your teeth would rattle too. But again imo, that style hull (Davis or Radon) is probably one of the best built/handling boats on the West Coast.
Draggin' Bait
03-09-2005, 02:12 PM
Obviously, the solution is we all need to own more than one boat!
Obviously, the solution is we all need to own more than one boat!
5 boats would cover every Oregon fishing situation. I'm curently working on #4-1/2.
KChookem
03-09-2005, 06:31 PM
One thing some do - put on their heavy rain gear.
I vividly recall seeing a guideboat heading for Buoy 10 in a strong wind with about 2-ft WW. The open sled was really getting soaked.. crash into a steep WW, get drenched by a wall of water, ... crash, drench, crash, drench, crash, drench... for miles! Seemed like the guests were having a good time though - not sure that the tiller operator was having as much fun.
Magnum
03-10-2005, 01:46 PM
Well, I have a NR Mariner & I have found that it does pound hard unless I have at least 3 guys in my boat. As for why I purchased a NR Mariner, well I can take a whole lot of pounding for the $10K plus that I saved by purchasing a Mariner over a Seahawk & I don't plan on taking more than a trip or two a year in the ocean if that. Hopefully in 5-10 years I can upgrade to a seahawk, but for now, I got a quality boat for the price I could afford & I can :smash: just a many spring/fall chinook from my Mariner as I could as if I was in a Seahawk... :wink: Boats don't catch fish, people in boats catch fish.. :smash: :smash: