What's Carrot Milk??

[FishinMission]

Thought we'd give the Washougal area a shot this morning. Here's #1

http://www.ifish.net/uploads/101715192.jpg

And if this one wasn't nice enough..lookie what #2 looked like.....


Regardless of the fin...there was alot of excitement for John..the guy in the middle. Biggest fish he's ever landed...I'd have given it close to 40. Man...they sure are pretty fish.

http://www.ifish.net/uploads/131615192.jpg Mark

[ 07-12-2003, 03:29 PM: Message edited by: FishinMission ]

[FishinMission]

Oh yeah...forgot to mention..these were hooked with no scent whatsoever, and after splitting a loaf of banana bread (yes..that's banana bread)
amongst us.

Spinners.

Mark

[ 07-12-2003, 03:39 PM: Message edited by: FishinMission ]

[rainrshine]

:cheers:

[Hogmaster]

:cheers:

The Orange Root People formulas are greatly overrated it appears!

:cheers:

[FishinMission]

Hog...ya just gotta stick with what works for ya...scent or no scent.

I'm lucky...I don't have all my dollars tied up in stinky, messy, goey stuff. EEEEwwww.

It slowed up pretty much after 10 a.m. Around two it started getting pretty windy...so we punched out.

Mark

[David Johnson]

In the last week I've tried different scents (proven ones) and at least 80% if not more have been on spinners with no scent.

Location, persistance and presentation are bigger factors in the long run....

[hooksetter]

Man I knew I should of stopped by to ask you how you did I drove by you when you were straping down your boat. Going to introduce myself to ya but ramp was little buzy for small talk. Know a couple of guys that you have associated with in the past and they have talked about afew times. Hint: Produce one in Hillsboro and one in the 'couve.

[Pete]

Nice wild fish.

[Bobby Ray]

Hey It's George Castanza :wink:

Nice Chromers Fellas


Bobby

[FROGGY]

:shocked: nice fish!!!!!!!!! :bowdown:

[FishinMission]

Hooksetter...I think one of them guys forewarned me about you. :wink: Yeah...the ramp was busy...we got out just in time. Stupid stuff happening there...

Uh huh..."takin out" I think is the worst part of the whole fishing experience...for numerous reasons.

Mark

[FishinMission]

Location, persistance and presentation are bigger factors in the long run.... <font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">You pretty much nailed it Dave in your first three words....

Amen


Mark

[norms gone fishing too]

Fished just abive you guys went 3 for 5 with 1 native 30 pluse released. Just used sardeen oil on spinners. 16 feet of water 7 boats 8 fish kept5 released for the line.

Norm

[Mrdorkfish]

Hey Mark, great looking Salmonoids :wink: Notice the native...that look in it's eye :shocked: What am i doing way up here :shrug: :tongue: sorry Mr. Mission...but if i give the Orangemen the business...I have to give it to everyone :grin: Great looking fish :bowdown: I waved at you Thursday as you were coming in...Did you do any good??

MrDorkfish graemlins/dork.gif

Louis

[fishchaser]

Hey Mark, Did that big fish have anything in it's mouth? Like, maybe, my lure, and spreader?

I lost a huge one this morning, around 8:55 a.m., just down stream from you guys. I say it was the driver of the boat that made me loose the fish, but Pete wont go for that. I was with Walt and STZII. That was the only fish we hit today.

Last week I walked a lure back into a fishes mouth, just as we put out. Than around 2:30 I hit a nice 14lb clipped fish.

[STGRule]

You know, them wild ones are so much better looking in the water. Really. :smile:

[BigFish]

What!! No one noticed the eyes on that nate looking down with a stiff body, but not bloody. Shame shame shame.

[5-Cents]

Nice fish Mark :cheers:

Hey it was the biggest fish his friend has ever caught dont you think he may want a picture of it :whazzup: Petty obvious the fish is in good shape, no blood at all. If you dont want to read his post then please dont but a lot of people like to see the pics graemlins/applause.gif graemlins/applause.gif

[Mrdorkfish]

bigfish, I think we all came to the conclusion that if the fish is looking down..it's still alive :rolleyes: Or for the time being... :tongue: Wooden Nickel...I LOVE to see fish pics...but... "Like Whatever" :tongue: It is good practice to leave those non-hatchery noids to be kept in the water...I know everyone has heard it a thousand times...but :hoboy: I looked at the post not knowing there was illegal contraband being forced apon us :laugh: Keep it reel :tongue:

MrDorkfish graemlins/dork.gif

Louis

[Stew]

Originally posted by fishchaser:
Hey Mark, Did that big fish have anything in it's mouth? Like, maybe, my lure, and spreader?

I lost a huge one this morning, around 8:55 a.m., just down stream from you guys. I say it was the driver of the boat that made me loose the fish, but Pete wont go for that. I was with Walt and STZII. That was the only fish we hit today.

Last week I walked a lure back into a fishes mouth, just as we put out. Than around 2:30 I hit a nice 14lb clipped fish. <font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">That is a bummer that you lost that lure Tracey :depressed: That was a fish catcher for sure and I've search all over the place to find one without success....double :depressed:

[Nanook]

[ 07-14-2003, 06:38 PM: Message edited by: ****** ]

[Claybear]

Them sure are nice. :cheers: :bowdown:

[FishinMission]

Ya know...We see tons of 10-20 lb salmon pics here...and for those of us that catch them alot...they're just another fish.

So when someone gets a fish that's truly "worthy" of a photo...a couple of you gotta voice your dis-approval. You know what...?? I don't care. I've handled plenty of fish in my time, and I know how to ensure they're survivability. We don't stand around posing for 15 minutes. This fish was out of the water for no more than 15 seconds, and I've seen more damage done to fish by others just by getting the hooks out, even when they're still in the water. Trust me...that pig swam away with plenty of life left in it. If you dis-senters are troubled about this...I'd like to remind you Toman did a couple year study of catch and release mortality up in Oregon City..which showed fish can be handled and released properly. In fact.. that study pretty much led to us all being able to have a (release non clipped)springer fishery on the Willamette. Can the "Johnson" enlighten us here about that??.

You dis-senters are just jealous.

Tracy....No alvins in it's lips....sorry.

Dorkie...Thursday...I used my steelie gear (med hvy Lami, 12 lb. line)...hooked and lost a nookie (came unbuttoned) and had two other takedowns. I think I missed them due to the light rod scenario...better to have some beef on that rod when it folds. But it's fun living dangerously once in awhile.

Mark

[Red]

FM,

Nice lookin' fish! :cheers:

Thanks for posting.

[David Johnson]

Mark, if you were looking for my opinion here it is, if you weren't here it is anyway....

If I had someone catch a pig like that I might have gotten a pic like that too.

I take plenty of pics of fish, but like you I know how to handle them. I have seen a ton of people that might as well have kept a released fish graemlins/dork.gif the way they took care of it, it's those kinds of people that will cause more laws and that lower the overal mortality % that opens and closes the river.

The cooler the water is the stronger the fish. In the fall, winter, spring, Alaska we get a lot of pics but this last week with the water hitting 66 I've been quickly letting them go without netting them and without a pic, unless the client snaps a pic while I'm unhooking it. None have left the water.

A soft mesh net is also helpfull to the fish, it keeps the slime coat on better. And never net ocean caught coho that are going to be released, their scales are so soft it's a death sentance.

This time of year it's a good idea not to even net a fish meant to be released. You should look to see if it's clipped before it's netted and then check once again before it's brought into the boat.

That's one of the reasons I use a heavy leader, with 40# or 50# I can grab the leader, pull the fish next to the boat and then unhook it.

All in all if a person doesn't have much expereince I would say don't take 'em out of the water. If you look at the all the nate pics I have you will see that I am the one holding them almost 99% of the time.

[Elwix]

Nice pics and beautiful bright fish. graemlins/applause.gif

[Get Bent]

[ 07-15-2003, 04:59 PM: Message edited by: Get Bent Tackle ]

[Fish Hawg]

Great Picture graemlins/applause.gif :cheers: How many "natives" are true Native fish? :shrug:

[ 07-13-2003, 08:05 PM: Message edited by: Quick Fisher ]

[fishchaser]

The summer run of Chinook was EXTINCT. This run was brought back through hatchery management. The fish he is holding came from a hatchery fish strein, that was left to rear in the wild.

This fish could be a 5th or 6th generation fish, but the blood line does come from the hatchery.

[Get Bent]

[ 07-15-2003, 05:00 PM: Message edited by: Get Bent Tackle ]

[Perfect Drift]

Sometimes the best reply is no reply at all. Is quietness shyness or wisdom? Observation or obsession ?

[5-Cents]

Perfect Drift nice... I kind of agree but
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He just swallowed that hook so nicely :shocked: Dont you love it when you hook them deep :grin: Unfortunately this one has too many fins so we will be releasing him as soon as we remove that dang hook. They just cant lay off the Carrot Milk :laugh:

In all seriousness Get Bent you should really start in on every other person with their picture in STS, F&HN and 1000's of other publications first. Paaaalllleeasssse graemlins/icon_argue.gif We just dont need it. It is better to send that stuff via email than to come accross all BENT like you are. :blush:

[ZaQ]

That is a truly awesome fish, way to go Mark!

[PapaHog]

nice fish :cheers:

[TheRogue]

Sweet fish, gorgeous picture, thanks for posting it!!

TR

[Mrdorkfish]

I'm very suprised to see that any publication would allow a picture to be printed with all the "endangered species" stuff going around... Nobody knows if it's a wild (unclipped) fish or not unless they say so or what time of year it's caught ( pre or post Aug 1)There are alot of people on IFish that should feel comfortable (except for the new guys :tongue: ) saying i caught a NATE that was HUGE without posting a pic.

MrDorkfish graemlins/dork.gif

Louis

[Jennie@ifish]

It's easy to post on ifish and to think that we are only posting to our friends... the ones that we know and see post here often.

However, I have to think about it when I post, and know that there are thousands of lurkers, and some people new to fishing.

I think that is why some people get concerned about the posting of wild fish without a disclaimer, or a notice to those who don't know how to handle wild fish.

It's nothing to get upset about, any of you...
To do so is ruining everyone's fun, or at least mine. :smile:

Mark is very excited about this hawg! (And rightly so!) It's a beautiful fish, and if I know Mark, was out of the water for only seconds.

The people concerned about the posting of wild fish are to be praised, also. They are beautiful fish and we want to keep them around! I understand what a pain it is, though, to have people complain. It's becoming nauseous to read the battles, however.

I think we all care about the same things. Why don't we work as hard to find our similarities, as we do to start trouble? It just seems odd to me! Let's work together.

When posting pics of wild fish, remember that there are others out there that don't know how to handle wild fish, and perhaps we might add a little disclaimer, or a handy tip on how to properly handle native fish.

As avid posters and experienced fishing people, we share the burden of responsibility to educate those who might not understand the importance of maintaining a healthy run of native fish for our future.

People have strong feelings about the issues of whether you should hold natives up out of the water for pictures, or not. But, people have strong feelings about many things! I suppose this debate will continue to a head. Let's just not let our feelings ruin the fun on ifish.

Like my favorite saying goes... Pick something that you believe in, and stick beside it for your entire life. On the way, you will meet many friends, and a few enemies.

Be proud of both.

Mark, that is one dang fine fish. :smile:

Jen

[skrimmy]

Staying out of the pros and cons of heated topics as best as I can, I can only make one comment on Mark's fish. That is about the most beautiful looking Nook I've seen on the board this year. Way to go and congrats. graemlins/applause.gif

[CATCH AND EAT]

That's a huge fish Mark. I'd have to say I would have taken a picture of that baby tooooooo! Way to go boys! Now if was a 20 or 30# fish I would have left him in the drink.

[Mrdorkfish]

Yes ma'am...Nuff said on my part, Hopefully after Aug 1 I'll be posting lots of pics of fish with fins intact. :grin: I'm done graemlins/hearton.gif

MrDorkfish graemlins/dork.gif

Louis

[dirtyCut]

WOW! Nice feeesh!! Glad to see some people having good success..... dont mind the flamers there everywhere these days.

KC

[FISH HAWK]

[ 07-14-2003, 11:02 PM: Message edited by: FISH HAWK ]

[Wet_Willy]

I enjoyed seeing your pics and posts Mark after quite a long break. I guess it'll be another long break again (same old, same old). Email brag pics to my personal email, I love to see 'em and I never worry about your released fish surviving...
Bill

[blackdog]

Two sets of hands all over the fish, plus the one guys holding it up against his chest, all rubbing the slime that helps protect these fish. Water in the Columbia getting warmer all the time. Yeah, that ought to be good for the fish, regardless of how long it was out of the water. :rolleyes: Also, I don't care how big the thing was, size shouldn't be a justification of whether you take the necessary precautions that wild fish deserve.

Learn to take pictures of wild fish in the water! It honestly can't be that hard. If you guys can figure out how to catch those things all the time, surely you can figure this trick out as well.

[ 07-15-2003, 10:42 AM: Message edited by: blackdog ]

[skahorse]

Woah woah woah... I was making a joke man, calm down. I told you, I choose not to voice my opinion on this subject. I just thought it was ironic, thats all. :grin:

Take a picture, don't take a picture, do whatever you are going to do(I've done both). I know I'm not going to change anyones mind. However, I do think posting an easily identifiable picture of yourself and others on a popular NW website, with an illegal fish out of water, isn't that smart. I equate this to the people who tape thier crime being committed and it accidentally getting into the police's hands. If a Game Warden(or anyother Law Enforcement official) looks at this and just happens(I know, it's a long shot) to see you the next time you are out... So on and so forth.

I don't know what the punishment is, however, even if it's just a $100 ticket, is it worth distributing thousands of copies of it? If so, go for it, I won't hate. FM, beautiful fish!

--Skahorse

P.S. It's not that hard to get into paint shop and paint over that little fin with some gray from the shirt, if you know what I mean... graemlins/idea.gif

[ 07-15-2003, 02:48 PM: Message edited by: skahorse ]

[blackdog]

skahorse - didn't mean to jump your stuff. My bad. :blush:

Still sticking to my original point though.

[ 07-15-2003, 03:01 PM: Message edited by: blackdog ]

[parker]

Nice brat, FM and John!

http://steelhead.fish.washington.edu/~parker/pics/nicebrat.jpg

:grin:

[ 07-15-2003, 03:18 PM: Message edited by: parker ]

[skahorse]

There you go parker, nice work! See, now everyone is happy!! :cool:

[skahorse]

I will choose not to voice my opinion on this topic. However, blackdog, i think your signature quote is a little ironic... :tongue:

[CATCH AND EAT]

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

[Tilla]

Oh darn you Mark, you should let the Indian nets do that!
:rolleyes:

[blackdog]

First off skahorse, how do you know for sure that rubbing generous amounts of slime off and holding it out of the water for an undertermined amount of time didn't eventually kill that fish?

Second, do you honestly think that salmon and human have the same degree of free will and ability to adapt and overcome difficult circumstances? If that were the case, we wouldn't have to be worried about releasing natives, as there would be millions of fish in all of our rivers, despite our attempts to reduce their numbers through fishing, netting, dams, habitat destruction, non-native predator introducition, etc, etc.

Try again.

[ZaQ]

Nice job Parker. That looks great.

Is it really illegal to take a native out of the water? The regs don't say that..... graemlins/1zhelp.gif

[Sublime]

HAHAHAH!

Perfect job, Parker, now the haters can quietly sit back down.

BEAUTIFUL FISH GUYS!!!

FISH ON!

[Mrdorkfish]

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MrDorkfish graemlins/dork.gif

Louis