Lost and Found

[Grant Scheele]

One of my clients this week left this in my boat and I want to return it. I think that he called it his,"Rogue or Wind river special" If you are out there and recognize this please call me so I can return it to you. If you recognize the rig and know it's owner please let me know so I can return it.

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[Miss B Haven]

Uh- Ya - Right graemlins/stupid.gif graemlins/berry.gif :mad: :tongue: graemlins/dork.gif :hoboy:

[Gun Rod Bow]

Looks like about 3' of 15 lb Ultra Green, a small red bead and a 2/0 Gami tied with an egg loop. (just a guess)

Obviously the bait of eggs has been cleaned off.

What seems to be the prob Grant?

I've used a rig very similar in the past for steelhead and salmon.

For that to be a Rogue River Special, it would need to be at least 8' long with heavier line.

I would think and experienced guide like yourself (with moderately poor equipment) would recognize something like that.

Do you only recognize stuff that hangs under a bobber? :laugh:

[weekend warrior]

Hey thats mine! When the water is low and clear and up around 60 and the springers don't seem to be going after bait it seems I can get them every time on this down at the stayton dam.Go figure. graemlins/stupid.gif

It must be how it resembles a single egg. About the hook, springers have big mouths, right? :laugh:

The only thing that bothers me about this riggin' is that now Grant has let my low water special out and now everyone is going to be using it. :grin:
Thanks alot Grant.

Grant, Have you still been hitting the N.Sant? How have things been, I've haven't fished it in about 3 weeks but I've been over to the South a few times and got a couple but nothing spectacular. Been fishin' off the bank on the south though.

Funny post, Later Geoff

[Salmonator]

Grant it looks like one of your old wiley creek hole rigs. It doesn't look familiar to you because the lead pencil wrap fell off the shank :blush:

[Grant Scheele]

Joe, you must be thinking of someone else because we never snagged any fish at Wiley. That was before flossing or lining was even a word.

Remember, we were not using pencil lead on our hooks, we used 8 foot, 6lb leaders and the smalled corkie that we could find. Back then, the color of you corkie made a difference.

Nope, the leader in that picture is to short to be mine.

[tag-a-long]

Santiam is falling off... Only 18 fish in the last 9 days.... That looks like one of my rigs but I use owner hooks...

[Sore Back]

Looks very gifty to me. Think I will tie up a couple.

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[Gun Rod Bow]

Hey Pencil lead around the hook shank... graemlins/idea.gif That's what Grant was taking off his drift rods. Said something about it being a "Grey Hackle"... said he learned it in Alaska or something.

I was trying to figure out why he asked if I had experience in netting fish that came in tail first.

:hoboy: It all makes sense now. Grant you should be ashamed graemlins/berry.gif

Wait til I tell Scott :shocked:

:laugh: :dance: :laugh:

(I hope you all know I'm kidding)

[Fisherfield]

I was just talking with Gramps yesterday....he said that they flat out killed em' on the Rogue two weeks ago..with that rig. size 1 hook...3mm beads...ruby red, lemon, bright green...with a 6 foot leader..a swivel placed at 3 feet...and a 4 inch dropper...with 1 ounce of lead. I asked about the color combo's and he said just 2 beads max...and it didn't matter what color's where combined together. I figure I'll give it a try this weekend on the Washougal...can't do any worse than I've been doing!!!!!!!!! :depressed:

[KingFisher85]

I would say its mine but I use black hooks :grin: :wink:

[willierower]

:hoboy: flossorama time.

[Gun Rod Bow]

Hey Willie Rower,

Could you please e-mail me privately and carefully explain "flossoramma"? :shrug:

Good meeting you the other day.

[Get Bent]

GRANT I KNOW YOU HAVENT BEEN AT THIS GUIDE STUFF LONG SO I WILL HELP YOU OUT THATS A LAME HOOK WEEK LINE LOOKS LIKE A GOOD EGGLOOP GOOD LOOKING BEAD USED FOR FISHING HOPE THAT HELPS YOU :laugh: :grin: :laugh: :grin: :laugh: :grin:


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oh sorry i yelled :grin:

[ 06-27-2003, 09:19 PM: Message edited by: Get Bent Tackle ]

[willierower]

GRB,

That set up with just a hook and a bead looks like something the guys up the river from where I saw you would use to "induce" a bite from a lock jawed fish.

Though the leader, hook and bead could be a back bouncing leader with the spinning drift bobber missing :shrug: ...................

If you want to see what I mean by flossorama, you need to make your way up to Wiley Creek some day............................

Nice meeting you on the river also. How did you guys do? We ended up with 1 steelhead that was a solid 15lbs. My buddies 9 yr old son landed it. He also caught a wild rainbow that was 22"+ and weighed around 3 lbs. Biggest rainbow Ive seen west of the Cascades.......

[fishbait]

Grant,

That is my new stealth bobber. Ultrasensitive for those lite bites.

FB

[Grant Scheele]

GRB, in your terms. Flossorama means "The Flossery" As in, "I went to The Flossery today and got a 35lber." Does that help?

[Grant Scheele]

Scott, you are so computer illiterate. Who told you that you were yelling? Anyway, since when is 10 years guiding new to the business? I suppose that it is like you are just new to the rod building and tackle business?

[Get Bent]

10 years :laugh: graemlins/eek13.gif :laugh: graemlins/eek13.gif :laugh: graemlins/eek13.gif :laugh: :grin:

[Keta]

The leader looks a bit shorter than the ones I've seen used at the bridge hole on the Rogue :depressed:

[Bankbound]

Sad but true Keta :depressed: When you are told "A bare hook with a longer leader will catch more fish than those eggs"!! Whoah buddy looks like I'll fish somewhere else!

MH

[wolfhunter]

the rogue is lawless, sublime and i pulled up to a hole ive fished for years and years. the boat above us are keepin there line in the water, then casting. sittin there watching, looked like 50lb tough line running about 9 ft long and a 3/0 stinger treble and a sinking glass bead. woo hoo, the kenai special. that to is a dilemma. i guess everyone has there deal, they snaggeda fish in the dorsal and said oh i think its in the mouth and bonked it. i say legals in the mouth, if u have to line um well as long as ur not snagging thats fine with me

[wolfhunter]

hey grant, dont u fish all ur gear under bobbers? in theory, what difference would it make if there was a sinking or floating bead under a bobber?

[Grant Scheele]

True Pete, but that rig just wasn't mine. I still haven't found the owner. Maybe he could step foward. :rolleyes:

[Fisherfield]

I should add to my original post...Floss also! I've noticed that some are thinking that the single or double bead..with a hook has been labeled a "snagging rig".... My grandfather is not a snagger...and I forgot to mention the Floss aspect of this rig. I had asked gramps about the fact that the beads would sink straight to the bottom?? He said to add plain ole' dental floss...using the egg loop...the current will pick it up off the bottom with the floss...making the presentation of a couple single eggs...with the silk...floating near the bottom....WHAM! I did try this method over the weekend...and the area where I was fishing just didn't have the current...so I'll try a new swift spot....

[Grant Scheele]

Bruce, are you insinuating that I am targeting darkies. That hurt! Anyway, here is a picture of a fish caught on my last trip out. I am going to be chasing them again tomorrow. Wish me luck. Grant http://www.ifish.net/uploads/344118180.jpg

[Get Bent]

not hard to catch shiny ones [is that 5th st] there nice fish grant :grin:


10 years??????????????????????????????????? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :grin:

[ 06-30-2003, 06:53 PM: Message edited by: Get Bent Tackle ]

[Grant Scheele]

Scott.... You had better keep throwing that cheeze grin in there or I would have to take you seriously.
Why is 10 years so hard to believe?...

[ 06-30-2003, 08:07 PM: Message edited by: Grant Scheele ]

[Get Bent]

OK IM SORRY 1 1/2 FULL TIME 8 1/2 PART TIME :grin: :grin: graemlins/berry.gif


OH SORRY I YELLED AGAIN :grin: :grin: :grin: graemlins/eek13.gif graemlins/eek13.gif

[Grant Scheele]

Scott, I think that I like you better when you were afraid of the computer. :grin: graemlins/eek13.gif

[Gun Rod Bow]

Hey Grant,

What did you do, go over to Garibaldi and borrow a feeder chinook from one of the commercial guys? :laugh:

That would be a nice fish in two more years. graemlins/berry.gif

What else yah got?

PS Scott, definitely the dock at 5th St.

[Gun Rod Bow]

Fisherfield,

I'm sure your Gramps is a fine upstanding law abiding fisherman.

I have discussed the Rogue fishery with many down there who are just positive those fish are biting those little beads, well, good for them. PS, that's why it only works in a fast current, in slower water the fish move out of the way. Who's to say for sure?

Willie, I'm quite familiar with the term and technique. I know folks that do it. They hook them square in the chops. If you didn't know better, you'd think they bit. Hey maybe they did...whatever. It's legal. Release all foul hooked fish and it's OK with me.

OK,OK IT WAS MINE!!! I admit it. But, I use a little glob of eggs, and I'm sure sometimes they bite me, and sometimes I bite them. But if it ain't in the chops, it goes back.

Late season springers like to get their heads up under white water, I think that rig will get down to them better than a corky when drift fishing.

Grant, your just trouble :hoboy:

Good luck on the last of the Sambos. I'm off to catch shiny ones.

Later