View Full Version : Tried them all NEED SOME INPUT
Norski
05-20-2003, 07:36 PM
For over 25 years I have used Trileen line, have caught many fish, but this year I have lost a fair share of fish, line breaks, setting hook breaks,
The people in the know are on this web site,
I NEED SOME HELP...
I AM THINKING GOING TO MAXIMA
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE??????
CAMILLION OR ULTRAGREEN IN THE 20 POUND RANGE??
FISHING FOR SPRINGERS/STEELHEADS
NOW YOU KNOW I NEED HELP CANT SPELL.
THANKS FISHEN BUDDIES. Mr. A
Worm-N-ator
05-20-2003, 07:44 PM
ultra green, the only way to go. :smile:
24 on/ 48 off
05-20-2003, 07:49 PM
Ultra- You'll never look back.
--spud-- :smile:
crabbait
05-20-2003, 08:01 PM
The Ultra is less visible, takes a knot better (easier without kinking).
The Chameleon is a little "harder", more abrasion resistant.
In either case, make sure the knot cinches tight without abrading the line. Wet before tightening. If the line has abrasions or kinks, cut off and retie. The little bit of time and line you "waste" are not worth the chance of losing a big fish.
I have been using Berkley Big Game for the last few years and really like this line. I have had no problems with breakage. I run 20lb. main line when fishing for Springers out of my Driftboat. For leaders I like to use Maxima Ultra green.
[ 05-20-2003, 08:44 PM: Message edited by: Wog ]
Stratocaster
05-20-2003, 08:26 PM
I use 20 pound Ultragreen for everything, well except panfish. Even use it for sturgeon, get away with less weight as opposed to 30 or more test and have never had a break off. But i have had a hook break in half.
Flatfish
05-20-2003, 08:27 PM
Once you go Max, you never go back.
If you are busting 20# Trilene on steelies, please tell me where you are fishing!
Ultragreen is usually pretty close to being the right answer. Chameleon is super tough( great leaders) but is considerably stiffer than all others mentioned.
The pink stuff is much easier to follow during presentations. But I can only find it at Cabelas.
I used to fish a lot of Trilene 14 main and 12 leaders for steelies. I dropped to 12 max main and 10 leaders and break off less than I used to with the Berkley stuff.
Not trying to smack trilene around, but Maxima is in a different league.
Mark and the dog.
FEAR NO FISH!
05-20-2003, 08:45 PM
Try one spool of Yo-Zuri Hybrid line, in smoke. You won't let it go. Landed 74 Springers this season and over 300 steelhead in the last 2 seasons! Plus it looks cool in your reel. :cheers:
Stratocaster
05-20-2003, 08:45 PM
German engineering. :wink:
FishinFinatic
05-20-2003, 08:58 PM
ultra green. 8# test 30# nook in boat last fall. others on ifish to vouge for that also.
but for were you have been fishing. I would and have used 20# ug, up to 25#.
for steelies, no more that 12#, i use 8# main with good success. currently using 12# for springers on the zipperlip. :laugh: but this is a post on fishing line so that is for another story.
Norski
05-20-2003, 09:26 PM
Thanks guys for the info tomorrow all the reels well be changed to MAXMA ULTRAGREEN
I KNOW I CAN COUNT ON INFO FROM A BUNCH OF PRO HERE ON IFISH.
THANK YOU ALL, NOW MORE FISH IN THE FREEZER.
Mr. Carp
05-20-2003, 09:58 PM
Heck With Mono, go with tuff Line!! :grin: Berkely Big Game has treated me well. I did some testing for a research project of different lines and it seems like Berkeley underrats their lines. 10lb was breaking at like 14lb where the other brands were closer to what they stated. Berkeley had a larger diameter for the strength as well. :shrug:
KingFisher85
05-20-2003, 10:20 PM
Once used to say I'll never use that tuff line, well, I've been starting to like that tuff line, fire line, spider line. Good line. Last forever. Still wont use it drift fishing though. But for boat fishing, can't go wrong!
For my drift fishing, big game all the way!
[ 05-20-2003, 10:21 PM: Message edited by: KingFisher85 ]
spinnermaker
05-20-2003, 10:24 PM
Big game has been good to me never broke a fish off.
salmonking
05-20-2003, 10:42 PM
:shrug: Wheres all the votes for Stren? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
willametteriveroutlaw
05-20-2003, 10:46 PM
the bass and pan fish page
Lepper
05-20-2003, 11:51 PM
I personally like ANDE line.. Cheap and works great.. and stretches like you won't believe!!!
sparkleboy
05-21-2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by salmonking:
:shrug: Wheres all the votes for Stren? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: <font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helvetica">I've read some posts really bashing Stren line, and to be honest, I personally cannot understand why. I have been using Stren line my entire life, and have caught a lot of fish. I've broken a few off, and had a few knot problems, but nothing I would deem out of the ordinary. This last weekend my dad and I had three setups with new Maxima (or Trilene, I'm not sure which...) and one with Stren. We were trying out the new line based on the recommendation of others. First of all, our knots were not sticking with the new line, and second, we got some nasty loops on our reels. I had the only reel with Stren, and hooked and landed two steelhead with no problems. No fish with the other line. My vote goes to Stren. In my opinion, they make a good product. I'm staying with what works. Don't know exaclty what other people have experienced to give it such a bad reputation.
sinker
05-21-2003, 12:41 AM
Fish a few glacial rivers up here that are nothing but round rocks, major snaggy.
Got tired of loosing gear drit fishing. Switched to Tuff-Line. I can move boulders now!! :grin:
k9jeff
05-21-2003, 02:10 AM
I have used Maxima Crystal Ivroy for main line on my boat reel for trolling and anchoring. I have never had it break. I like it. I use the green for everything else.
night stocker
05-21-2003, 05:24 AM
i second that maxima crystal ivory in 25 lb for springers.very good as is all maxima line.NS
Sore Back
05-21-2003, 06:22 AM
Ultra-Green
:bowdown:
Killertraylor
05-21-2003, 08:07 AM
I used to be a die hard Maxima man and now I use Trilene Big game. I tried it after Dave Johnson posted here that he had been using it for all of his fall salmon leaders. I think that both Maxima and Big Game are excellent (I've never busted off a fish on either one with the exception of oversize sturgeon).
For me, the key is to change your line a few times a year. I fish all of springer season (probably 40 trips average) and start sturgeon season with the same line (I use salmon gear for catching keeper size sturgeon in the estuary all summer). I then change line when I start fishing the Ocean for silvers and then sometimes respool (depending on how much salt stuck to the line) again right before the URB's get here. That's very affordable if you use the Trilene Big Game, but a bit spendy in Maxima.
dawhunt
05-21-2003, 09:35 AM
ULTRA GREEN !!! graemlins/applause.gif
Bob
I used UG for years and thought it was the best until I started using Berkely Big Game.
Still using UG leaders till the spools are all gone but till then, Big Game.
fop
fishscale
05-21-2003, 10:56 AM
I use ultra green with dependable results. I use 12 pound main line and have the flexibility to use 8 or 10 lb. leaders with the knowledge that my mail line won't break, not only because it's a higher pound test, but also because it's the same manufacturer with same type of line. In addition to wetting the line, when you are cinching it up, try pulling on the line as far from the knot as you can. Try about 2 feet from the knot for starters. If the knot won't cinch (due to the stretch and friction of mono on mono) remoisten the line and try again. If it still won't cinch, pull from closer to the knot. It has been my experience that when I tie a knot in this manner the line next to the knot doesn't kink and the line doesn't appear to be weakened.
Ande line IS the way to go for mono. I've had problems with Trilene in years past, so I made the switch and have been happy ever since.
SKP
Miss B Haven
05-21-2003, 01:28 PM
One reason Maxima has such a good rep and is touted as so strong is that it is underated. The diameter is larger than most other mono's of the same rated test. Nothing wrong with this, I use Maxima almost exclusively (not on my deep water rods - they are all tuff line). It is great line, but unfair to compare to say - Ande tournament where 20 lbs MEANS 20 lbs.
If you are trying to set a line class record you won't do it with Maxima. :hoboy:
OceanBlue
05-21-2003, 01:31 PM
Use a cotton swab to check your guides for nicks. If you're experiencing breaks suddenly, that might be the problem, not the line. Just a thought. :shrug:
Pilar
05-21-2003, 03:12 PM
Another vote for Maxima Ultra green. I run Crystal ivory in 30# on my offshore Salmon rods. The UG, I use in 40# for Halibut and Salmon mooching rigs.
I have used the Berkely big game in 40# for sturgeon. It was all I liked before tuffline came along.
Ande makes some killer line in the 150#, 200#, and 300# ratings. This really kicks the albacore in the butt. It wont break even on a pegged out handline with the boat going 9 or 10 mph and a nuclear powered 35# tuna yanking on it. The smaller Ande is pretty soft and abrasion sensitive.
riverraider
05-21-2003, 07:23 PM
I had 2 springers in a row fray and break Big Game. Talked to the sporting goods store and found out he had the same problem the year before. Might be ok for mainline but leaders with it are not allowed in my boat anymore. Ultragreen has been good to me. I've been told ( Bill Herzog) that supposedly Crystal Ivory is ultragreen before the color-dieing process.
I've been using nothing but Suffix Supreme )E-Angler) on both spinning (#10) and baitcaster (#20) with flawless results. Strength and abrasion resistance of Maxima but less stretch and less memory. Less money too, plus it comes in yellow for side-drifting, and clear for salmon.
sandi
05-21-2003, 07:33 PM
I had the same problem with stren several years ago ande have gone with Ande ever since . It is a great line, inexpensive, very responsive and I use it on both my spinning and casting gear for spinner/spoon and drift fishing respectively. Stren - uggggghhhh. Never again!