4/12/03 Jetty fishing open invitation

[Bait O' Eggs]

It is time again for a gathering of fisher to enjoy food, company and fishing.

This will be the 3rd time we have had a meeting in the spring to fish the evening tide for sea bass or what ever fish wants to bite in the dark of the night.

There is some debate about which tide is best to fish, some like to fish a low tide because the barnicale rocks are exposed and they are less slippery, I prefer a high tide because I dont need to cross the slippery rocks to get to the barnicle rocks and I think the incoming tide brings fish in from the sea to feed. High tide is at 10:46 pm.

The briquets will be hot around 5pm on April 12 near the coast guard tower at Barview park, which is on the North Jetty about a mile north of Garibaldi. I will have a BBQ that is about 2 x 4 feet set up for all to share. I will donate a bushel of Netarts oysters (2 if demand looks high enough) for all to enjoy on the BBQ.

When the sun sets and eveybody has had their fill of food, we will move over to the jetty and see if we cant catch a few fish.

There will always be conflicts with peoples schedule and I hope those that want to come can make it. For those that cant make it the 12 of April, Gizmo tells me he is leaning towards announcing a springer floatilla for April 19 near St. Helens.

I look forward to meeting some new ifish members, and again meeting some I have already met. :cheers:

[WaterDog]

I was thinking it was time for a sea bass breakfast! :smile:

[Trophy]

Woohoo! Will be looking forward to that day. Let me know if you need some help preparing for the event.

I've heard that the winter storms did some damage there. Has that been cleaned up?

[bob-n-jig]

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i'm in......and i'm bringing the posse!!!

[BlueWater]

Thanks for bring this up BOE. If you need any help let me know.

BARVIEW BASS-ZILLA 3.0!!! :dance: :dance:


BlueWater.

[love2fish]

This is the one I've been waiting for :grin: . I'm looking forward to meeting everyone. Let me know what I can do, or what I can bring.

Thanks,
love2fish

[Fishalot]

I will realy try hard to make it this year and bring along my 2 boys. I have had grilled oysters one time and I loved them, i love oysters just about any way I can eat them. Thank you for planning this event BOE graemlins/applause.gif .

Fishalot

[Snapshot]

:cheers: Roy, u de man, I can hardly wait and will ask a couple pre fishing questions that came up last year after I got there. What jigs did we use that were so productive? Seems like it was the bigger ones that PIlar gave us? What can I do to help and I look forward to meeting all the gang there again.

Perhaps Catch and Eat will remember to remove the paper absorbing pad from his steak before he grilles it this year. graemlins/stupid.gif

I need a couple crab traps. Do you have a couple or three that are experienced that you want to dispose of?

Here's a great change for everyone to come out and have a great time. Good food, good company and good fishing too. What more could you want? :dance: on

[ 02-27-2003, 07:41 PM: Message edited by: snapshot ]

[Jerry Dove]

Ya all come early, hear. That is come at 8AM to Whiskey Creek Volunteer Fish Hatchery and help fin clip 100.000 Sp. Ch. Have a free lunch and then head for Barview about 1 or 2PM. Sounds good to me. Thanks Jerry

[Bait O' Eggs]

Jerry has a good suggestion, head to the coast early and clip the springers at Whiskey Creek hatchery, that I plan on catching in a few years :wink: then have dinner at the BBQ at Barview and then catch some spiny fish from the ocean.

[KingFisher85]

That sounds like fun. I wanna do something like that.

[fishchaser]

I'll be there again this year, Roy. :dance:

Maybe this time I will get out and fish. graemlins/idea.gif

[fishbait]

Roy ol buddie, I went to my planner to put this event in and on the evening of the 12th I am attending the Annual Banquet for the State Association of NW Steelheaders......... Man am I bummed, the first one was a blast. oh well, I know you all will have a great time and I doubt if anyone will miss my ugly mug. Except you that is, you'll just have to find someone to direct your smack talkin at.... I'll be there in spirit. FB

[CATCH AND EAT]

Thanks for planning this Roy. I had fun last year just Crab'in & gabb'in. I learned that I actually like oysters and that you should also remove the absorbent paper on meat products before BBQ ing. graemlins/berry.gif :wink:

This is a fun event.

[WaterDog]

Bernie, this year maybe you should just bring hotdogs and let the guys running the grill cook them for you. :tongue: :wink:

[Bankbound]

Oh no!!! You will get the grand pleasure spending an evening with.....ME :grin: Better cancel, the peanut gallery is on the way! LOL

Sounds like a bunch of fun. I know I'm not as ol...err I mean seasoned as some of you, but you got some room for a new guy??????

MH

[BlueWater]

To The Top. :grin: :grin: :grin:


BlueWater.

[Born to be Wild]

Hey Roy.
Hope I can make it, but don't know where or what I will be doing at that time.
Don't really think it makes that big of difference low vs. high tide as long as it is at slack tide. Low slack can be excellent.
Is definately better at dusk or after dark. First light breakfast bass works good at times also.
Another important factor is a small tidal exchange. Large tidal exchange makes for some tough "drift fishining" on the jetties and a short "slack" fishery. Also lots of grass or weeds comes with it.

If this is the address to ship to:
Roy Markee
Trask River Tackle
baitoeggs@hotmail.com
7016 SE Savanna
Milwaukie, OR 97267

I'll be glad to donate more than enough "plastic's" for the gig.
I only have about 3 & 1/2 billion in stock with another 20,000 to 30,000 on the way.
I supply much of the Coast and Longview with rockfish "soft plastic's" or as the redneck's say, "rubber".

You guys and gals can provide your own jig heads though, I don't feel like pouring that much lead!

Just let me know & I will ship.

Dan

[ 03-01-2003, 08:30 PM: Message edited by: DepoeBayDan ]

[Born to Fish]

Oh Boy....something good to put on the calendar! :cheers: :dance: :cheers:

Sounds like a good excuse to load the pickup camper and head west from Boise. I'm definitely in on this - BOE, thanks for putting it together. I'm really looking forward to meeting more "ifisher's". Would be happy to help you out or provide whatever, just let me know.

Not certain if I'll be able to handle the jetties-don't have the balance and agility you younger guys have, but if that doesn't work perhaps I can fish/crab off the old Coast Guard pier or something else - open to suggestions on that [hint, hint :wink: ]. Or, I can keep the camp fires burning and drink your beer. :grin: :wink:

Jerry Dove, I'd really be interested in helping out on the fin clipping project - this may be my only opportunity to get slimed by one of those critters [not likely to happen here in Boise - :depressed: ]. Will need some directions on getting to the hatchery.

Any suggestions on where to camp? I'm familiar with the campground [county park-?] at Bar View, but presume that'll be packed,...maybe not.

Dean

[Born to Fish]

After looking at my calendar in relation to this trip and long drive from Boise, I figure I might as well spend some additional time on the coast and enjoy what it has to offer. I'll probably stay through part or all of the next week and see what I can get into.

Won't have a boat with me but would jump at the opportunity[s] if anyone anticipates open seats, or if someone is planning on bank/beach/pier fishing/crabbing and is looking for some company.

In the event that doesn't pan out, anybody got any suggestions for what I should key in on considering lack of boat, would considering renting one for bay fishing/crabbing. Have no qualms about moving up and down the coast depending on what's happening.

Feel free to send me email[s] if you don't want to clutter up this thread [dberg200083709@yahoo.com].

Thanks. Dean

[Grits]

Born to Fish- You can rent boats/crab rings at T-bay. I don't know what they rent for but I imagine it is aroun $40 or $50 a day.

[DB_Cooper]

Fish n Clips, sounds fun.
Ya all come early, hear. That is come at 8AM to Whiskey Creek Volunteer Fish Hatchery and help fin clip 100.000 Sp. Ch. Have a free lunch and then head for Barview about 1 or 2PM. Sounds good to me. Thanks Jerry<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">Me and my daughter would like to come down and help out with the fin clippin' and possibly catch some fillets from the jetty but we would need some directions to both. If someone could put together the addresses for both I can generate some maps off the internet. If there's a local motel that you know of, that too would be appreciated. TIA

[ 03-01-2003, 09:41 AM: Message edited by: Waiteman ]

[Born to Fish]

Grits, thanks for the T-bay suggestion.

[Born to be Wild]

Born to Fish,
Lots of Trout lakes on the Coast open all year if the Ocean is too ruff. If it's not, you'll probably be fine fishing the jetty. The fish move up & down the jetty at slack tides so you don't have too. You can fish right where you park by the Coast Guard tower.

Also the Domoic acid levels (red tide) should be down by then and if the tides are right, last year we had the best razor clamming that most if not all had ever seen in there lifetime up and down the Oregon Coast.
Tastiest critters on the Coast.
Actually last year you could get razor's 7 days a week up there in Seaside/Gearheart regardless of the tide because there were so many and so far up the beach you didn't need anything close to a minus tide. (Only about 35 miles north of Barview).
Got a limit of razor's 4th of July at a afternoon low of 2.7' at Gearheart beach and I was an hour late (after the tide was on it's way in).
You can drive right down to the clam beds, but would suggest avoiding driving quite that far to prevent mortality on the clams.
Some Sturgeon fishing in the Tillamook and Siletz river from the bank also, but don't know if that is a good time of year for them.
Good cockle clamming there in Tillamook also if the tides are right, but tough walking through the mud.

4th of July +2.7 low tide Gearheart Beach
Clamming was sooooooooo good, even Mason got a couple!
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Dan

[ 03-01-2003, 02:18 PM: Message edited by: DepoeBayDan ]

[Fish_N_Russ]

Me and the wife are interested to go....what all do we need to bring as far as tackle and gear? Thanks :smile:

[PapaHog]

Count me in. I am excited to put something on my schedule to look forward to. I will load my camper and fishing gear tomorrow and sit in the cab and wait for April 12th. OH did I say I was excited... Can't wait..

[Born to be Wild]

Fish_N_Russ,

On the jetty a 8'-9' medium to heavy rod in a spinning or casting works well (whatever you're comfortable casting). 15# - 20# line is most common.

TERMINAL TACKLE:
For seabass (Black's) small jig's work best but ocassionally bait works also. 1/2oz., 3/4oz., and 1oz. jig heads would be your best bets. I prefer the shorter shank (3/0) jig head with a 3" shad body on it. A 4" curl tail grub (worm) works well also.
Some folks like the longer shank hook (5/0) in a 3/4oz., 1oz., 1&1/2oz., or 2oz. jig head.
With those you would use a 6" curl tail grub
(worm), or a 4" shad, cocahoe, or chovy minnow. Some folks like to use a 4" twin tail shrimp on the longer shank (5/0) jig head also, but not my preferance.
If specifically targeting Lingcod (2 fish limit this year), an 8" curl tail grub (worm) or 6" shad/cocahoe minnow works better. But they will grab the smaller bass stuff.
Colors:
In the shads, cocahoes, or chovy minnows, some of the best colors are the blue pearl/ black back, pearl/black back, pearl/blue back, pearl/green back, pearl, clear glitter/black back, clear glitter/blue back, chartreuese glitter/black back.
In a curl tail grub (worm), the two best colors are white and motor oil. Black, flo orange, root beer, black and other colors work also.

Bait fishing:
You can really improvise there.
If you are fishing smaller species like seatrout (kelp greenling), or pearch, smaller hooks in a size 2 or 4 are best. I normally use a surf leader which you can buy or make your own. A surf leader comes with a barrel swivel at one end to tie to your mainline,and a snap swivel at the other to attach your weight. It has 2 loops in between to hook your snelled hooks to.
Some folks make there own version with a three way or crossline swivel to tie there dropper line and hook & leader too.
For the jetty, 1oz., 1&1/2oz., or 2oz. bank sinkers should be adequit.
For the folks targeting Lingcod or Cabezon (new 16" minimum size on Cabbies), you are probably better off tying your own leader set-up and using 20lb.+ test and 3/0-5/0 hooks.
Bait:
For the little guys I would have to say sandshrimp works best. Other baits; clams, mussels, kelp worms, squid, etc. work at times also. (Kelp worms are great, if you can get them).
For Lingcod, the best bait is Herring or a small seatrout that you catch.
The largest Barview Ling that I have caught (11#'s.) was caught on squid. Good bait also.

Bobber fishing is also an effective way of catching Ling's and big bass.
The guy's bobber fishing Salmon at the Columbia river jetty (Ilwaco) catch a lot of nice rockfish.

If you choose to fish the beach (sand) for redtail surfpearch (i.e. pogies, pink fins), the surf leader set-up I mentioned above with #2 or #4 snelled hooks does the job. Some folks use the expensive "safety pin" hooks.
You would use a 3oz. pyramid or sand claw sinker there. Some times 2oz. or 4oz.
A longer rod in the 11' or 12' works well, but not necessary.
I usually use my Salmon/Steelhead rods (8'6") for both the jetties or sandy beaches.

Best time for blacks off the jetties is usually after dark, or at dusk or dawn combined with a slack tide, but can be excellent at any time of day. Ling fishing is best during the daytime.
I don't bother with a lantern at night, but just a small pocket flashlight for retying or moving around. I usually carry two in case the batteries or bulb go bad in one of them.
Needle nose pliers come in handy for many task (removing hooks, retying, etc).
A burlap bag works best for me, but other methods for storing your fish work also. Burlap bags don't fall over or off the rocks as easily as a bucket.
If you have a shrimp gun, you can save a few bucks by pumping your own bait.
Great fun for the kids catching seatrout & pearch from the rocks and beach.
Boots or shoes with good traction work better than most tennis shoes. Extra Tuffs are the best I've used.
Might want to bring some trout gear in case the Ocean isn't cooperating, but it should be fine.

I offered to donate to Bait O' Eggs more than enough plastic worms and shads for the whole bunch of you, so I wouldn't be to concerned about not having or buying them.
Got to bring or buy your own jig heads though.

Dan

[Born to Fish]

Dan, thanks for being so generous with the information....lots of good stuff! :smile:

Great picture of your "clam" dog.....imagine he loves the opportunity to run on the beach. Doesn't seem too impressed with the catch. Great how our pets endure our human sense of humor. :grin:

Dean

[Jerry Dove]

Been at the hatchery all day so am tired, but let me see if I can answer a few questions on fin clipping. Let me cover a lot of things. Crabs, drop your pots in Netarts bay on the way to Whiskey Creek. Address 7660 whiskey Creek road Netarts Oregon, may want to list it as Tillamook Oregon. Barview Park should have a lot of room. You could park your camper at Whiskey Creek for the night. Garibaldi Marina has boats and crab pots for rent. Motels, try Shilo in Tilllamook tell them you are here for the Tillamook Anglers Whiskey Creek volunteer fish hatchery fin clipping. Then all head to the jetty for fun and food and fishing. Hope your all hungry after the free linch at Whiskey Creek. Jerry

[Born to be Wild]

pretzel and peanut butter fishing dip?
Ooh yuk!
Is that for bait?
Sounds worse than pickles and ice cream!
How 'bout some smoked Salmon dip?
Just kiddin' Jen. Never tried it, and probably never will! :grin:

[Born to be Wild]

Some food for thought.
The South jetty is usually smokin' for bass fishin'. A whole lot better than the north jetty.
Maybe someone might want to consider dropping some pots and ferrying some folks across the bay to fish the south jetty.
Someone said the low slack is around 4'ish, so there is plenty of daylight and should be good fishin' from around 3:00 to 5:00pm.
You don't want to hike or bike in from the south end. If I remember right it is somwhere around 5-7 miles and not good walking. Did it once, and that was enough. 'Bout killed me and I never caught a fish that day.
But as I said, it's usually a whole lot better than the north jetty.

Dan

[Bait O' Eggs]

Wow!! This thread has taken off since I was last on ifish :smile:

Dan - sounds like you fish the jetty as much as I use to :smile: I saw your picture in the paper the other day jetty fishing. I kind of miss it since I am in the valley now and cant run up up to fish it on a regular basis like when I lived in Mook. Very generous offer to supply the jigs. Show up and bring them with you, I look forward to meeting you.

I can see now that I need to order 2 bushels of oysters with another big turnout anticipated. I hope waterdog brings his oyster knife and helps shuck hot oysters as they come off the grill, that and brings his mom who I always get a kick out of. :cheers:

For those that dont know where we will be meeting, From Garibaldi drive north on HWY 101, about a mile North of Garibaldi you will see a little market called Barview grocery. (If you get to Rockaway you went to far) Turn left at the market and drive about 3 blocks, you will find the entrance to Barview county park. Drive past the guard shack and stay left on the roads. You will wander thru some campsites and end up at the Coast Guard tower on the North Jetty. Plenty of parking for all. We will swap lies and eat until the sun sets then move over to the jetty (40 yards) and fish from the rocks. For targeting sea bass, you dont need a monster rod. A light salmon/steelhead rod works fine, or a trout rod would work. Last year the 1/2 ounce jigs worked better as we had plenty of tide change and getting down was difficult with 1/4 ounce lead headed jigs. With high tide about an hour or so after dark the water should lay down nice. Pray for nice weather and no wind :shrug: I like to have a couple gas lanterns in the area to help me see, a bucket or as Dan said a burlap bag for the fish. Be sure and have a flashlight, or headlamp, there are plenty of dark holes between the rocks at night.

I look forward to seeing you all there.

[brshooter]

The wife and I will be attending again. Had a blast last year. We will be at Whiskey Creek for the fin clipping and then head on over. Only problem with this is that we won't be crabbing. Last year, we brought a couple limits of crab to share. I hope that some of the people get a chance to drop some traps.

Looks like the afternoon low at Garibaldi is 0.0 at 4:17 pm. Do you think a person could get some cockles at that level? I have only tried to raked them on minus tides.

[Born to be Wild]

brshooter,

Maybe somebody locally from there can fill you in, but here in Newport, you can easily get a limit of cockles on a 0.0 tide. Same goes for razor's in Seaside/Gearheart, if the red tide situation is over by then, and I suspect it will.

[Jennie@ifish]

I'm going! I'm goin!

YIPPEEEE! I love this one!!!

I'll bring hats and decals and... remember my pretzel and peanut butter fishing dip? :smile:

Nah... Chocolate cake for Thumper! That's what I'll bring!

I love this one! Did I tell you I love this one?

:smile:

Jen

[Born to Fish]

TTT

[fishchaser]

Jennie, you like this trip, cause it is so close to home, Right :cool:

You can have a good time and still get home to take a shower and sleep in your own bed. I know. :tongue:

However, I am going to load the camper up and come on down and fish. I too have the comforts of home, just on the back of my truck.

[Fish_N_Russ]

will these work? Got a bunch a while back, I think the lead is about 1 oz or so.....thanks

http://www.hunting-pictures.com/members/gnrsurplus/jig.jpg

[Bait O' Eggs]

Yup, something like that works great at night.

[Slow Roll]

I'm in and so is my fiance.

Had fun last year and look forward to it this year too. Need to give them oysters another chance too. :sick:
Look forward to see everyone there. :cheers:

Paul B.

[Born to be Wild]

Yup,
That's a copy of my Seabass Killer I introduced to the market back in March of '94. The one you have is probably a 1oz. jig as you stated, with a 4" shad (Blue Pearl/Black Back).
The Seabass Killer I will show, is a 3/4oz. jig with a 3" shad (Blue Pearl/Black Back). I personally think the 3" shad works better than the 4" at times, but they both work well.
http://www.ifish.net/uploads/29401270.jpg

When I first started out in the business, the charters were mostly using the 6" curl tail worm (Grub) on a 2oz. jig head. I got them to switch to the 4" shad. They loved them and thought they caught fish better at times. They had a lot of complaints because of the lack of durability of the 4" shad. This was understandable because they provided the tackle for there customers. So I switched them over to the more expensive 4" cocahoe minnow. They were very pleased. The cocahoe minnow is a lot more durable because of its round body shape compared to the flat shape of the shad. (An average of maybe a dozen fish caught on a 4" cocahoe compared to maybe 3 or 4 caught on a 4" shad). Then I started having major problems with the cocahoe's especially after they started having them made over seas. So I had a very expensive mold made and call it a "chovy" minnow. They liked it better than the original cocahoe. It is a 4" minnow (pictured below). It is slightly shorter which helps for "short biters" and is beefier around the lead barb area that holds the plastic from sliding back and is less succeptable to sliding back. (By the way, as stupid as "seabass" can be, they will not bite a jig where the body has slipped back).

I stock shads in the 1", 2", 3", 4", and 6".
The Chovy minnow I only make in the 4". I also carry the Cocahoe in a 6". By far the best seller's are the 3" shad's and 4" chovy's. The 6" Shad's and 6" Cocahoe's sell to the Lingcod fishermen on the coast and Lingcod & Halibut fishermen up in NW Washington. Rockfish other than Lingcod rarely bite the 6" stuff.

I'm going to drop off bags of these "soft plastic's" in Tillamook when I finally go through there to Jennie or Jerry for use at the jetty gig in case I can't make the gig.

This is not an advertisement and I do not sell to the public, mostly to wholesalers anymore and mostly in bulk.

Dan

http://www.ifish.net/uploads/30431270.jpg

[chummer]

I think i'll come and play also. Anyone bringing thier boat along to crab, I'm debatig the 19' or the driftboat???

[Fish_N_Russ]

Hey Dan,
wow thats neat info. Yeah I had some of the smaller 3" size and 3/4 oz heads a few years ago and those were easier to cast and I think had more action (easier to jig anyway) than the 1oz size. So if someone isnt buying in bulk, where does one get those? Feel free to email me if u want to talk off board.
thanks
Russ

[Born to be Wild]

Hey Fish_N_Russ,

You brought up a very good point I thought of, but forgot to address. The smaller more streamlined jigs do throw easier and further (less wind resistance). On the jetties that doesn't usually make a difference. You'll just throw out into "crab country" if you throw too far. Off the rocks, sometimes that can make a difference. But, I have noticed over the years, sometimes the smaller bait seems to work better when they have had plenty of the real thing. (I always told people I thought it was like coming out of a buffet. You would turn down a big mac or whopper, but you might be enticed by some chips & salsa). Also, (no brag, just a fact), I often times outfished the charters right next to me because they were using the standard 2oz. jig head and I was using 3/4-1oz. jigs. A lot of times they were fishing below the "suspended" schools of fish! My lighter jigs stayed in the schools longer. Needless to say, most of them buy or pour 1oz. jigs anymore.

You can contact me if you like, but as I said, I pretty much wholesale anymore. I will be providing 100's or 1,000's of soft plastics for the Barview gig. Bring your own jig heads though!

Dan

[ 03-13-2003, 03:17 PM: Message edited by: DepoeBayDan ]

[CrazyFish]

Sounds like fun. I usually stay in Cape Mears so your pretty close by.

BOE,
I'll do my best to find some spotted shrimp to add to the barbie.

[fishchaser]

Thought I would bring this to the top to remind everyone that this is comingup here in the next few weeks.
Hope to see you all there.

[Jennie@ifish]

Bump to the top!
Anyone else new going?
This is one great time, casual event. Bring the family!
Jen

[Jennie@ifish]

That's too funny! Someone else bumped it too! :smile:

Jen

[BlueWater]

To The Top!

You can't keep a good post down
:grin:

I will bring some soda pop to share if needed. Hope to see a lot of you there.


BlueWater.

:dance: :cheers: :dance:

P.S. Jen, did you ever find your cake pan from last year?

[ 04-02-2003, 09:28 AM: Message edited by: BlueWater ]

[Nooky]

Roy, do we use eggs or kwikies. What cure works best Scott's or Steve's.