Born to be Wild
02-12-2003, 01:10 PM
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posted 02-11-2003 07:20 PM
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Maybe this will answer a few questions for some of you. This is an article I wrote last year and Rick from Local Fisherman News did an excelent job editing it for me.
Hope he doesn't mind me posting it here and will check with him before I post any other articles that we did together. Also, when I have time I could reply to this question a little more specific for I have fished the North (Barview) & South Jetty at Tillamook off & on for many years (Day & Night).
Rockfishing Tips & How To
Rockfishing for Seabass (Black Rockfish), Lingcod, Seatrout (Kelp Greenling), Cabezon, and Striped Seapearch is often fun and productive along Oregon’s rugged coast!
The rocky "outcroppings" in the Depoe Bay area are the best on the coast! "That's why I moved here some 10 years ago"! Said Dan Dettmann a longtime coastal angler and owner of Simon & Peters Tackle Co. in Depoe Bay.
The jetties can be good, but usually produce smaller fish! Although, at night the jetties will be more productive for larger fish! There is a big advantage of fishing the rocky area's in the Depoe Bay area, etc., "'because these area's aren't as affected by the tides like the jetty's are"! For example, in the Depoe Bay area, you can fish any tide! (Some areas are more accessible at low tide). The jetties are affected by the "tidal exchange"! (The amount of water rushing in or out!) Large "tidal exchanges" are normally not good off the jetties because of the excessive amounts of water flowing into or out of the Bay! (Therefore, you are limited to fishing the "slack"!) Slack tides (high or low) are normally the best times to catch rockfish off the Jetties!
Best times to fish - Anytime is a good time on the rocks! However, low tide is the only time you can access some areas that are hot for rockfish. “But, the unique thing about fishing Depoe Bay is that you can fish any tide”!
Dan says “In the Depoe Bay area, some places are best during high tides and/or low tides. And sometimes it's better during daylight hours, and sometimes it's best at night! The best and for the most part, safest time to fish from the rocks is during a 6' swell or less! As for surf fishing for Redtail's off the beach, the same hold's true, 6' swell or less! Some of the local TV stations and web sites show ocean swells and wind waves, i.e.... One site is at; www.wunderground.com/MAR/PZ/255.html.” (http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/PZ/255.html.”)
Clothing and shoes - Raingear is a must, even during spring and summer months as coastal anglers will at times encounter unfavorable weather. Therefore, it’s always a good habit to take along the raingear on any coastal trip. It can make the difference between a cold miserable fishing trip and a warm and dry one.
Good waterproof boots are recommended but not required. Dettmann recommends footwear like “Extratuff's” available at Englund Marine on the coast. “They keep your feet dry and comfortable and provide the best traction of any boot I’ve ever experienced!” He says.
Tackle and gear - Typical gear includes; a quality 15 to 25 pound mainline for those throwing jigs, 20-30 pound line is best for those tossing bait! Anglers fishing for striped seaperch, seatrout (kelp greenling), and small lingcod/cabezon, can use sand shrimp (ghostshrimp) for bait, where as Angler's fishing for the larger Lingcod use herring for bait. Other bait's like; clams, mussels, kelp worm's, etc. can also be used, but sand shrimp is commonly available and usually very effective! Bait is typically fished above a sinker on the bottom. One to two hooks are used above the weight. Smaller #2 and #4 hooks for the perch and greenling, and larger 3/0 to 5/0 hooks for the bigger species like lingcod & cabezon.
Seabass (Black Rockfish) usually prefer bait that’s moving and will typically take jigs a lot better than bait! The jigs of choice are Simon Peters “Seabass Killers” or small jig's utilizing a 3" Shad or a 3-6" curl tail worm. Jighead sizes range from 1/2 oz. to 1 ounce.
“For lingcod, the 'bigger the better"! Off the rock's, an 8" curl tail worm is best! Motor oil or white, are two of the most effective colors!” says Dettman. Use jigheads of 1 oz. to 2 ounces in weight with 1 1/2 ounce being my preference!
As far as shad jig’s for seabass, the pearl blue/black back is the most popular color. However, pearl/black back, pearl, clear glitter/black back, chartreuse/black back, pearl/blue back, and pearl/green back are the favored colors! Some angler's prefer the larger 4" Chovy minnow in the same colors!
Weights: “Anglers typically use 1-2 oz. bank sinkers on the jetties. Bank sinkers don't grab the rock's as easy as pyramid's which are designed to hold in the surf/sand!” Dan says.
However, over the years I have witnessed some anglers using lighter weights like slinkies or split-shot which at times have been real successful (drifting the jetties - so to speak). Some of the more serious angler's fishing open ocean, especially during rough swells, use 3-5 ounce weights!
Rod: An 8 to 9-foot medium duty one or two-piece spinning or casting rod capable of casting up to 4 ounces of lead will do the job nicely. If you use excessively heavy equipment you’ll wind up tiring yourself out. Most anglers use an 8 1/2 foot steelhead/salmon rod, which typically increases casting distance.
Most anglers also bring along a bucket or burlap bag to carry home their catch.
See Sport Fishing Regulations for bag limits, special rules and fish identification.
Information for this article provided by Dan Dettman, Simon Peters Tackle Company. Edited by Rick L Martin, The Local Fisherman News.
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There are all kinds of exceptions to gear being used etc. Now days bobber fishing is getting popular for Ling's to some extint. Both Ling's in these pic's were caught plunking Herring that came from Yaquina Bay. I prefer using the large 8" CT Worms for Ling's myself and do real well. But at times, Herring will outfish jig's and vise versa.
Any questions and I will try and get back later and answer them. 2 Ling a day this year!
Dan
posted 02-11-2003 07:20 PM
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http://www.ifish.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=020955
Maybe this will answer a few questions for some of you. This is an article I wrote last year and Rick from Local Fisherman News did an excelent job editing it for me.
Hope he doesn't mind me posting it here and will check with him before I post any other articles that we did together. Also, when I have time I could reply to this question a little more specific for I have fished the North (Barview) & South Jetty at Tillamook off & on for many years (Day & Night).
Rockfishing Tips & How To
Rockfishing for Seabass (Black Rockfish), Lingcod, Seatrout (Kelp Greenling), Cabezon, and Striped Seapearch is often fun and productive along Oregon’s rugged coast!
The rocky "outcroppings" in the Depoe Bay area are the best on the coast! "That's why I moved here some 10 years ago"! Said Dan Dettmann a longtime coastal angler and owner of Simon & Peters Tackle Co. in Depoe Bay.
The jetties can be good, but usually produce smaller fish! Although, at night the jetties will be more productive for larger fish! There is a big advantage of fishing the rocky area's in the Depoe Bay area, etc., "'because these area's aren't as affected by the tides like the jetty's are"! For example, in the Depoe Bay area, you can fish any tide! (Some areas are more accessible at low tide). The jetties are affected by the "tidal exchange"! (The amount of water rushing in or out!) Large "tidal exchanges" are normally not good off the jetties because of the excessive amounts of water flowing into or out of the Bay! (Therefore, you are limited to fishing the "slack"!) Slack tides (high or low) are normally the best times to catch rockfish off the Jetties!
Best times to fish - Anytime is a good time on the rocks! However, low tide is the only time you can access some areas that are hot for rockfish. “But, the unique thing about fishing Depoe Bay is that you can fish any tide”!
Dan says “In the Depoe Bay area, some places are best during high tides and/or low tides. And sometimes it's better during daylight hours, and sometimes it's best at night! The best and for the most part, safest time to fish from the rocks is during a 6' swell or less! As for surf fishing for Redtail's off the beach, the same hold's true, 6' swell or less! Some of the local TV stations and web sites show ocean swells and wind waves, i.e.... One site is at; www.wunderground.com/MAR/PZ/255.html.” (http://www.wunderground.com/MAR/PZ/255.html.”)
Clothing and shoes - Raingear is a must, even during spring and summer months as coastal anglers will at times encounter unfavorable weather. Therefore, it’s always a good habit to take along the raingear on any coastal trip. It can make the difference between a cold miserable fishing trip and a warm and dry one.
Good waterproof boots are recommended but not required. Dettmann recommends footwear like “Extratuff's” available at Englund Marine on the coast. “They keep your feet dry and comfortable and provide the best traction of any boot I’ve ever experienced!” He says.
Tackle and gear - Typical gear includes; a quality 15 to 25 pound mainline for those throwing jigs, 20-30 pound line is best for those tossing bait! Anglers fishing for striped seaperch, seatrout (kelp greenling), and small lingcod/cabezon, can use sand shrimp (ghostshrimp) for bait, where as Angler's fishing for the larger Lingcod use herring for bait. Other bait's like; clams, mussels, kelp worm's, etc. can also be used, but sand shrimp is commonly available and usually very effective! Bait is typically fished above a sinker on the bottom. One to two hooks are used above the weight. Smaller #2 and #4 hooks for the perch and greenling, and larger 3/0 to 5/0 hooks for the bigger species like lingcod & cabezon.
Seabass (Black Rockfish) usually prefer bait that’s moving and will typically take jigs a lot better than bait! The jigs of choice are Simon Peters “Seabass Killers” or small jig's utilizing a 3" Shad or a 3-6" curl tail worm. Jighead sizes range from 1/2 oz. to 1 ounce.
“For lingcod, the 'bigger the better"! Off the rock's, an 8" curl tail worm is best! Motor oil or white, are two of the most effective colors!” says Dettman. Use jigheads of 1 oz. to 2 ounces in weight with 1 1/2 ounce being my preference!
As far as shad jig’s for seabass, the pearl blue/black back is the most popular color. However, pearl/black back, pearl, clear glitter/black back, chartreuse/black back, pearl/blue back, and pearl/green back are the favored colors! Some angler's prefer the larger 4" Chovy minnow in the same colors!
Weights: “Anglers typically use 1-2 oz. bank sinkers on the jetties. Bank sinkers don't grab the rock's as easy as pyramid's which are designed to hold in the surf/sand!” Dan says.
However, over the years I have witnessed some anglers using lighter weights like slinkies or split-shot which at times have been real successful (drifting the jetties - so to speak). Some of the more serious angler's fishing open ocean, especially during rough swells, use 3-5 ounce weights!
Rod: An 8 to 9-foot medium duty one or two-piece spinning or casting rod capable of casting up to 4 ounces of lead will do the job nicely. If you use excessively heavy equipment you’ll wind up tiring yourself out. Most anglers use an 8 1/2 foot steelhead/salmon rod, which typically increases casting distance.
Most anglers also bring along a bucket or burlap bag to carry home their catch.
See Sport Fishing Regulations for bag limits, special rules and fish identification.
Information for this article provided by Dan Dettman, Simon Peters Tackle Company. Edited by Rick L Martin, The Local Fisherman News.
http://www.ifish.net/uploads/08161242.jpg
There are all kinds of exceptions to gear being used etc. Now days bobber fishing is getting popular for Ling's to some extint. Both Ling's in these pic's were caught plunking Herring that came from Yaquina Bay. I prefer using the large 8" CT Worms for Ling's myself and do real well. But at times, Herring will outfish jig's and vise versa.
Any questions and I will try and get back later and answer them. 2 Ling a day this year!
Dan