Sunk Sled in Clackamas

[JPSFISHY]

Somebody made a BIG BOOBOO this am. While fishing Feildheimers today, we saw a new Alumaweld Vee Hull Sled with new 115, on it's side, stuck, and half under water. It appears they took the left channel going down below Bonnie Luhr, and then at the bottom-or top of the power line hole- they tried to make the quick turn at the bottom right- and didn't make it. They jammed the boat into the big snag, and stuck it on it's side between the snag and the rocky bank. As we were there, a boat worked and managed to get it unstuck, and tried to drag it upright down the hole. When they stopped it sunk. Hope no one got hurt.
Wonder if it was full of fuel too?
God I love my driftboat.

[AnglersRental]

http://www.ifish.net/uploads/48001416.jpg

gee... did it look like this?

UG

[skrimmy]

JPSFishy - Before coming home from your fishing trip and jumping on here to share the story, you might want to check and see if there's already a thread started. You might even find out more about what happened instead of what you THINK happened.

Remember, even though you are thankful to have a driftboat, stuff happens to drift boaters just as fast, even as fast are you are to judge others.

[Drachir]

If that was a new jet boat, and this boat operator did not know the river too well, then that is all the more reason to go with someone who knows the river, first!!! I feel bad for this boats owner, it's a hard lesson learned. :depressed: Just hope everyone got out safely.

[Fishalot]

JPS I am sure that it had fuel in it most boats that run up river do, even some drift boats run outboards. We need to be a lot more careful about what we say on the wonderful sit. Please be more careful with your comments in the future.
Most important is that the people are ok, you might want to step up with a post to clean up the one you already posted.


Fishalot

[CATCH AND EAT]

Very unfortunate. I believe there is another post on i-fish that relates to this. Be careful out there folks. Glad everyone is ok.


I am heading there tomorrow to run it for the first time this year. Just doing the the Coffee to Barton sled run. My eyes are always pealed for new and fun obstacles. Boy am I glad I bought a "used boat". Wrecking my new baby would kill me.

Peace and be careful kids.

[SafetyChain]

JPSFishy,

A big DUH! of course it was a BooBoo as you put it graemlins/berry.gif . This was not a NEW sled and those on board have been in this water before.

Now, so YOU and everyone else can know the situation, there was a error made upstream. In addition, there are still unanswered questions as to a mechanical problem.

I have full confidence in the captain of this boat and would go out with him again in a heartbeat.

Now before anyone else, ASSUMES they know what happened, let me assure you that ANYONE OF YOU could have been in this same situation. All it takes in one small error compouned with mechanical failure and nest you know you could be sitting on the snag.

Remember, all on board are safe and that is THE most important thing.

Like Skrimmy said, know what you are talking about before jumping to conclusions! :mad:

[JPSFISHY]

Oouch! I stand corrected. My appologies.

[WildHawg]

This whole thing is getting a little "overboard" itself. Poop happens, it's just that simple. You run a sled in shallow or big water enough and the odds are near 100% that you will have a bad experience. I knocked a shoe off once--fortunately, I could motor down on the little motor. I have clipped rocks and come close to trouble several other times in 15 years of sledding.
As far as JP goes, I happen to know that he has lived on the Clack for a long time, and runs both sleds and driftboats. I didn't detect the tone in his post that others of you did.
Yeah he assumed it was new, questioned whether it was full of fuel (silly question, but realistic concern), and made a comment about his driftboat--but it wasn't that offensive. Boatwrecks create frayed nerves--thank God everyone is ok.
JP--I know your are an intelligent guy, and a pretty fair boatman, but be careful tempting fate. I guaranty you it can happen to anyone--in a drift or powerboat in a heartbeat. I've seen people crab an oar in flat water and flip.
Don't tempt the MOJO graemlins/eek13.gif

[Trick]

I'm glad everyone was alright.

Skrimmy and Safety, you guys are being a little harsh. JP only said what is "appeared" to look like what happened. He didn't say he knew for sure. Alot of times I see accidents and it is natural for the mind to try to figure out what events led to the accident. Maybe we speculate to try to avoid these accidents from happening to us?

He also said he hoped the boat wasn't "full" of fuel. It might have been only half full?

...and so he likes his drift boat, don't see a problem with that. Heck, if I owned one I would probally like it too.

I don't think he meant any disrespect and was just trying to report on what he had witnessed.

As far as missing the report before he posted. With hundreds and/or thousands posting it is easy to miss posts on the board. My eyes scan for headings that interest me and I don't have enough time to open even a fraction of the threads on Ifish. I actually opened this thread first before I even saw the other one.

Been a stressful day for alot of folks and I can understand the tension. I don't think JP meant any ill will.

Take care.

Todd

[Jennie@ifish]

Everyone makes mistakes... Let's just let this go, eh?

Everyone is safe... no need for hurt feelings, please???

Jen

[metalhead madness]

I have to agree with WH. I have met Jimmy and find him to be a great guy. Always willing to help. I didn't detect anything negitive about his post myself. It was a bad thing and he may have asumed it was a new boat owner. If there is athread about this I would like to read it. It may give some insight to others that run that section(a little skinny for my taste). I do hope everyone was o.k. and yes you can sink a drifter too. I've done it. Mat the insurance gods take pity and help the operater get back at it soon.

[Red]

My two cents,

Nerves are a little frazzled, I think JPS was just excited about reporting an event. An apology has been made, I think this thread should just be closed. People can read and see pictures on the "what happened to the overboard " thread.

[Fishalot]

It was the statement


God I love my driftboat <font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">that I thought was not needed. No hard feeling here I like it when we all get along.


Fishalot

[skrimmy]

JPS and Trick - I don't think there was anything at all in my remarks that was harsh, I kept it rather toned down, as yes, I was a bit on edge, for a couple reasons.

1. The owner of the boat is a great and close friend I've known for a number of years. The fact that this thread was started without seeking out the facts first and the comment about the drift boat left me and possible others with the impression that stuff doesn't happen to DB's.

2. and the MOST IMPORTANT to ME - About 8 or 9 years ago, when I first started Sturgeon fishing with the "cap'n" of this boat, before we ever hit the water (up at Bonneville where you can sink a boat real fast) he went over a number of safety items, not casually mind you, but he made sure he DRILLED these safety tips into me. Among these tips was to keep a SHARP knife where you can get to it FAST. Reason being, when you are anchoring up there at Bonneville, "stuff" can happen real fast.

Well, about 2 years after that on a trip to Bonneville, we were at the dock putting the boat on the trailer after a day of fishing. I was asked to assist another boater who was at the dock if I could go out with them and assist the pulling of their anchor. They were rookies in a smaller boat with an outboard/prop drive.
With sharp knife handy, I went out with them, carefully explaining to the captain how to pull 300 feet of rope with the anchor/bouy system. He promptly ignores those instructions and runs over the rope with his prop. The boat spun around, the current pulling the back end of the boat down to the water fast. Well, that boat was within 15 seconds of going under. A quick slash with the knife and 4 people didn't end up in the water. There was plenty of water in that boat, the battery was under water and the big motor wouldn't start. We were barely able to motor back to the dock with their kicker. None of them had PFD's on.

The safety lessons taught to me back then by the skipper of the boat in the clack today helped avert a potentially tragic ending to that story at Bonneville.

So, am I quick to come to his defense today? DANG RIGHT. I'll fish with him anytime, anywhere. No offense was intended to you JPSFISHER, and if offense was taken, I'm sorry! Just coming to the aid of a good friend and fishing partner.

Tight Lines and Safe Boating to you all.

skrimmy

[Gun Rod Bow]

Gentlepeople,

JPSFISHY wasn't way out of line. Big and Bright and myself saw this this afternoon. Even if it is on another thread, how about someone telling what happened, (wrong channel around the island?) So others can be informed and be more carefull.

Thank God everyone is OK, it is a tragic part of jet boating. My Karma would never stand making a desparaging comment about another boater's misshap.

Constructive info would be appreciated.

GRB

[fishnxtc]

Every person on this board should be very thankful if they have a friend like Skrimmy graemlins/applause.gif graemlins/applause.gif graemlins/applause.gif . I think the world of a person that can stick up for a friend in their time of need. Already knowing your situation with the "Capt'n" and you I could tell by your post you were standing up for him, while he is this undoubtly trying times. I too have fished with the "Capt'n" and skrimmy. Both of the gentleman are some of the greatest guy's you'll meet. Great job Skrimmy.........Chris

P.s guess you don't have to worry about that kitchen pass :grin: :grin: :grin:

[ 01-17-2003, 07:09 PM: Message edited by: fishnxtc ]

[Rusty]

There's an old saying regarding running jet boats:

There are only two kinds of jetboaters:

"There are those who have wrecked boats, and the one's that will!"

They are great fun, but be careful, because if your not: See picture in previous post!!

Rusty

[drifter]

To give this story a different direction. I was bank fishing today just across from this boat. Two other sleds tried very hard to salvage it, but were unsuccessful. They did manage to tow it into calmer and more shallow water just below the powerlines. I believe the owner was going to try to it from the bank.

It was interesting to watch the two boats. They tried hard. Felt bad for the owners. Sorry to see a good boat in that condition.

The good news was the 10lb hatchery steely I hooked while they were playing with the boat. Keep smiling. Drifter.

[Penobscot]

Can people relax, Jp can start any thread he likes. Ifish is great except for the oversensitive offense people take sometimes. I saw no harm meant. :hoboy:

[STGRule]

The major things to learn here are:
Accidents are accidents, not on-purposes.
You don't know its going to happen until it does.
You can only mitigate for potential problems.
Wear your PFD.
Have a sharp knife handy.
Wear your PFD.
Attempt to scout ahead.
Wear your PFD.
If you haven't been to an area lately, ask what has changed.
Wear your PFD.
Think ahead.
Wear you PFD.
The only thing that may save your butt?
Wear your PFD.
The more you know, the less you plan for.
Wear your PFD.
And most important ? It WILL happen to everybody.
Wear your PFD.

Thank God, everybody is safe.
Wear your PFD.

[skrimmy]

Penobscot and others, JPSFISHY and I have exchanged a number of private emails this evening regarding this topic. ALL of them have been very positive dialog and there are NO hard feelings on either side. Actually, quite the opposite. He is a great guy and we looking forward to fishing together one day.

Please add only positive and encouraging remarks on this topic now. The boat owner would be happy to hear your well wishes.

[Lepper]

Originally posted by Jennie@ifish:
Everyone makes mistakes... Let's just let this go, eh?

Everyone is safe... no need for hurt feelings, please???

Jen <font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">The boss has spoken.. let's do what she suggested eh?

[Penobscot]

:smile: :cheers:

[crabbait]

Eh!

Sorry to see a nice boat in this condition. very glad to hear everyone is alright. :depressed: