Pac 10 Woes

[Booja 1]

State of Oregon couldn't do it,,,,,,state of Washington adds to the loss column too,,,,,guess Calif is gonna have to have try and hold up the west coast from getting bowled over.....Go USC,,,join the Bruins on the winning side......................

[Joe Schwab]

Oregon State- had moments of greatness then stumbled and fell.

Oregon- Stumbled out of the gate and never showed what they were capable of.

Wasnington- Biggest choke of the year. Up 17 zip then zippo!

Washington State- Watched a pretty good Oklahoma team scrimmage up and down the field.

Was the Pac 10 really that bad this year? :shrug:

[DanS]

Wasnington- Biggest choke of the year. Up 17 zip then zippo!
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">You can't be serious. Two words for you: Wake Forest.

I'm pretty sure the BIGGEST choke of the year was by a team that led 14-0, then got whipped 42-14.

[Boedy]

I’m not Bias in the least but I do have to say the Fuskys choked worse then the Ducks :smile: . Also the Ducks didn’t talk near as much smack as the Fuskys did before the game. Love to see Slick Rick go down in yet another Bowl loss. Have the Fuskys won a bowl game in the last 5 years? Can’t remember again I’m not Bias. :cheers: :dance: :dance: :dance:

[DanS]

Uh, gee. Does the Rose Bowl (UW win Jan. 1, 2001) count? Or did you guys in Oregon forget that game still exists? :rolleyes:

[ 01-01-2003, 07:35 PM: Message edited by: DanS ]

[Boedy]

Forgot :smile: who did you beat that year?

[drifter24]

Yes....but we all know the best team next year will be the Beavs! As long as our quarterback gets his head in check.

Go Beavs!

[Boedy]

ROFLMAO Beaver best in the pac 10 hahaha :hoboy:

[DanS]

We beat the Boilermakers.........who got their revenge on us the other day. :depressed:

Sorry, but you can't put UW on top of the stinkpile this year. After all, we ARE the NW Champions. :tongue:

[Tacklebuster]

If you guys are hoping for a USC victory for the Pac 10 forget about it. Iowa will kill them come game day. The worst thing about WSU's loss to Oklahoma is we will be getting the Cougars coach next year. You can't put a Pac 10 passing coach to lead a SEC Alabama team that will pass maybe four times a decade :hoboy: I'm dreading next year for the Crimson Tide. After coming off a great season and getting most of their players to return next year, it's gonna be ugly. Oh well, look at it this way. At least the Cougs have a chance for a Rose Bowl victory now if they can ever get back to that level graemlins/dork.gif

[cannonball]

oh no, not again!

Will A coug team win the rose bowl this century? :shrug:

[Boedy]

NOPE!

[1pump]

Tacklebuster-

"Three things happen when you pass the ball, and two of them are bad."

-Woody Hayes

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[Stz ll]

I was really rooting for the Cougs, in the Rose Bowl this year. However I really felt before the game started that they were in way over their heads against Oklahoma.

I think most people thought the Pac-10 was the strongest conference this year. The talk was that the conference was so good top to bottom that we just beat up on each other.
The truth appears to be that the teams were so weak from top to bottom that any team could beat the other on any given Saturday.

It's unfortunate but the reputation of the
Pac-10 was severely damaged this year. :hoboy:

[Joe Schwab]

I'm not making excuses for the Ducks. They did that all season so it was no surprise. Only saying they didn't show up for the game. I still think the Huskies had the most potential, they way they handled other Northwest teams. They choked!!

[Mark Vickers]

Repeatedly I said that the Pac-10 was the toughest conference in the nation this year.

Repeatedly I said that when the bowl games came around we'd show the rest of the country how strong we were.

Dang, was I ever wrong.

[catchmydrift]

Iowa will lose this evening in convincing fashion. Carson will make swiss chess out of that secondary. The Trojans have been running strong for months with the toughest schedule of any major program. I do like Iowa but don't think they can beat the men from Troy. Just my opinion but I'll stand behind it.

cheers,
Brent

[husker]

ill take iowa..... graemlins/icon_argue.gif ...by at least 7 :cheers: ......1 bad quarter or they would be playing for the national title...... graemlins/berry.gif

no matter who wins.....i want to see the game be good....... :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[DanS]

the pac 10 is a bunch of mid levels teams beating each other up <font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">Did you see what the mid-level team did to the Big XII champs last year? As I recall UO destroyed the same team that routed NU 62-36.

[husker]

dan your right.....that is exactly what happened.....yup it is......did u see what happened the last times neb played the dawgs?.......every year has exceptions....no doubt.....in general......pac 10 isnt that tough......who was the last pac 10 team to win the title?.....dawgs in 91??.....that was 12 years ago....and we all know that miami would have killed UO......so no point in that arguement

[Threemuch]

Hey Husker,
As an Iowa State Alum, I am pretty happy about that 1 bad quarter that the Hawkeyes had. Made our season to beat em for the fifth straight in their own house.

I have Iowa play a few times. Their defense is suspect, and they can't score a bunch quickly. I think USC wins if they can jump out early. Furthermore, I theorize that all midwest schools are at a distinct advantage in bowl games. They are distracted by the pretty girls in bikinis, the warm weather, etc. For USC players, just another day on the beach. USC by two TDs.

KB

[Rubber Robin]

DanS,

Did I just detect some positive recognition for Oregon on your part?

Way to go!!!! :grin:

Are your feet becoming webbed???? graemlins/applause.gif

[Steelheadgreen]

I agree with Threemuch. I think USC will win. They may not be my favorite team but think they were probably the best in the pac 10 this year. If they only had a different fight song.

Steelheadgreen out..... :cheers: :dance:

[DanS]

What can you say? The Pac-10 was as soft as a three-day-old sandshrimp this season. It's not always like that though.

UW vs. NU is always a good game....well, almost always. After 7 games, the series is tied at 3-3-1. In our four most recent games the scores have been:

'98: NU-55 Uw-7 (like I said, almost always)
'97: NU-27 UW-14
'92: NU-14 UW-29
'91: NU-21 UW-36

You have to love a tough series like this. And NU fans are a great bunch of classy fans. If anybody has any doubts about NU's football program, just remind them that most people weren't even born the last time NU didn't have a .500+ record. Now THAT'S an impressive stat.

[DanS]

DanS,

Did I just detect some positive recognition for Oregon on your part?
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">R-Robin,

Shhhhhhhhhhh. Keep it quiet.......I DO have a reputation to protect. :grin:

[catchmydrift]

I agree with you Dan in that I want a good game no matter what. There's been a surprising number of bad bowl games this year. Ugly to watch. In reality I'd rather my team lose a close game than win a laugher. Especially in a championship of any sort or bowl game.

Cheers,
Brent

[finclipped]

There is no way around it; the Pac 10 is having a down year. But don't mistake parity with weakness. The Pac 10 has a strong non-conference record.

Husker the only sure thing we know about last year is that the Huskers DID get killed by Miami. And Oregon deserved to be in that game.

Over the last three years, two Prominent Big 12 schools have been beaten, (one Big 12 Champion convincingly) in Bowl games by Oregon...

Any conference can have a bad year.

[catchmydrift]

Wellllll........I hate to say I told ya so. So I won't. First half was fun to watch. Hope the championship game is better.

Cheers,
Brent

[rags]

Thank You USC!!!!

[northriver1]

The problem with the ducks was not their QB but defense. The coach should have spent more time on the secondary than undermining the confidence of the quarterback. Fife got them there and than is benched. What a great game plan!

[husker]

the pac 10 is a bunch of mid levels teams beating each other up.......the no defense league sings of how good they are and gets whipped when the time counts......

TB.....bama made there own grave by cheating continously.... get those boosters under control .....i am sure that Franchonie would have stayed if he didnt have to face another 3 years of probation......

[Hottamale1]

Tacklebuster....So much for IOWA :laugh:

SC took it to them with little effort after the first half.

Finally, someone gave respect back to the Pac-10.

Scott

[husker]

i'll stand up and say SC played better then i thought they would.....SC looked really good last night..... graemlins/stupid.gif

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[Threemuch]

Respect for the Pac 10? Don't get carried away. I thinkthat in a regular season game Iowa plays USC much closer, maybe even wins, depending on which USC D shows up.

At least I won't have to put up with a bunch of hawkeye fans talking about how they would be national champs if it weren't for one quarter of bad football.

[husker]

ok i'll admit i have distain for the big 10 and pac 10......this year and last year they have come to the table and should be rewarded for there efforts.....but i still see the were the rose bowl team mentality which is what caused me to dislike them in the 1st place....to me college football should be about playing on the field......no going to the rose bowl.....evey teams effort should go towards winning the championship not going to the rose bowl.....to many years teams from the rose bowl were happy to be there instead of playing teams like neb.....miami.....fsu.....to many times we didnt get the match up we deserved to watch.....this year we get it.....last year oregon got screwed.....thanks for letting me rant....now lets hope the rose bowl people dont get snobby again,,,,,and stick with the BCS...i mean BS ......hopefully getting it right more often then not

[ 01-03-2003, 09:22 AM: Message edited by: husker ]

[Boedy]

Threemuch, what the heck do you base that one on? Iowa was handled by USC and the same thing would have happened in the regular season. They played bad the whole 2nd half and most of the first if you want to get down to it. Once again we see the top PAC 10 School Beat one of if not the best team from the so called best conferences again. It’s getting to be a habit really. Big 12 last year big 10 this year and so on and so on.

[DanS]

to many years teams from the rose bowl were happy to be there instead of playing teams like neb.....miami.....fsu..... <font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">What are you talking about? Until the BCS came into being the Pac-10 champion was obligated to go to the Rose Bowl. And who wouldn't be happy about playing in the Grandaddy of them all?

BTW: FSU is notorious for welching on schedules games. UW had a home/home scheduled with FSU, but apparently they didn't have the sack to travel to Seattle.

BTW2: The last team to beat Miami wasn't from the Big XII, or the Big 10, or the ACC, or the SEC.

[husker]

the pac 10 and big 10 didnt really want to join the BCS...(BS).....but there quality team kept getting the short end of the stick......so they had to come along.......and yes.....if u asked any team from either conference the rose bowl was the goal....not being #1......

[Tacklebuster]

Respect for the Pac 10, PLEASE graemlins/dork.gif
Someone please remind me again of the Pac 10 bowl records for this year....

I don't have anything against the Pac 10 but let's face it, they are a bunch of "mid level" teams (as Husker put it) looking good when they play each other but choke when it comes to a Bowl series. You can not win a championship or respect when you have no defense.

USC looked good last night against a good team. It's about time. Hats off to the trojans graemlins/applause.gif I am a little bias growing up in SEC country but I would like to see USC or any of the Washington teams play Florida, Georgia, even LSU. This is not a Pac 10 bashing from me so don't get me wrong here. I just don't like the fact that a team does not have to play another team in the same conference for a conference title. I also didn't like the fact that just because you were a Pac 10 "Champion", you got an automatic trip to the Rose Bowl.

Husker, you are right about the boosters. I have my own opinion about their situation but won't go into it here. I have zero respect for Franchonie, he took a "put together team by someone else", and led them to a good season. Big deal. They would have done the same with the Bengals coach pulling the trigger. When the real work was ahead of him he jumped ship and bailed. Good bye sucker :dance: Now were stuck with you know who. Let's hope they get their booster's under control and let's hope your Huskers get their offense and coach under control. This was the first year in a long time that I couldn't bear to watch Nebraska play.

PEACE.......

[DanS]

Typical east coast gibberish.

You want to look up which conference has the MOST NC's? Go ahead.

Florida? LSU? Line em' up for USC right now, and SC kicks their cans.

[finclipped]

There were Seven, 1,2,3,,,,,yes 7 teams from the Pac 10 who got bowl invites. And I can only think of one BCS Game lost by a Pac 10 Team in the last 3 years. (WSU two days ago, could have the fact their coach quite right before the game have had an impact?)

Thats 4-1 for Pac 10 teams since they implemented the BCS or just BS. Before that, all we had was the Rose Bowl. There isn't anyone here who wouldn't love to see a playoff system. The only team that could even compete with USC this year would be Miami....

The SEC, Big 10, Big 12 are good conferences top to bottom, but do any have the BCS record that the Pac 10 has?

[Threemuch]

Oh, yeah, let's just hand USC the national championship right now. Anybody recall that they LOST, TWICE? Heck, Boise State has a better record than USC, and would probably give them a pretty good game.

Pac 10, what a strong conference. Nice bowl record.

Take away the distractions, Banks and Russel have a better game, and Iowa plays SC even. If the bowl game is played in some god forsaken place like Iowa City, the surfer boys fold like cheap suits.

Sombody explain this: How the heck is Ohio State undefeated? They lose big tonight. Three scores or more.

KB

[Boedy]

SEC SEC SEC they are the most overrated conference in the land by far. 3-4 in bowls this year not even .500 lets review shall we?

Start with the losers

Arkansas 14 Minnesota 29
Tennessee 3 Maryland 30
LSU 20 Texas 35
Florida 30 Michigan 38

Thought that was the cream of the SEC there?

The winners (2 came against teams that are having the worse year in 10 years mind you)

Georgia 26 Florida St (with 3rd string QB) 13
Auburn 13 Penn St 9 (didn’t Auburn lose to a Pac 10 team?)
Mississippi 27 Huskers 23

I don’t think the SEC has any room to talk. The last SEC team I saw play the Ducks looked like crap and got beat badly. USC beat Auburn with out much trouble so that’s all I have to go on is PAC 10 wins vs. SEC teams this year. What are you basing yours on?

[finclipped]

Its not going to do any good debating the USC-Iowa game as it has already been settled on the field.

USC had the toughest schedule in the nation.

Miami wins tonight by 21...

[Tacklebuster]

Boedy,
The Pac 10 played a couple of the worst teams in the SEC, Miss State and Auburn. How about if they played Georgia or Florida? Let's compare bowl victories shall we? How many bowl games has Bama lost in ten years? How many has Oregon or Washington lost in ten years? Think about it for a little bit before you answer this question mind you. How many more bowl games has the SEC played in and won than the PAC 10 over the past decade? SEC overated? In your dreams buddy. USC lost TWICE this year. How many bowl games did the Pac 10 win this year? Shouldn't take too long to answer that question. How many bowl games did the SEC win this year? That's what my facts are based on, how bout yours?

I don't think I'm talking too much jibberish. Just comparing numbers is all.

[husker]

i do not know who has the most titles but i can tell u how many the big8/12 has had since 1970

huskers 70,71,94,95,97
sooners, 73, 74, 99
colorado 90

thats 9 in 30 years....or about 1/3 of the time the champ comes from the midwest

last title for wash 91
last title for mich 97
last title for OSU 69
last title for USC 73

miami was champs 84 87 91 2001 and will be again tonight

[DanS]

The Pac 10 played a couple of the worst teams in the SEC, Miss State and Auburn <font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">So some of the worst teams in the SEC played some of the worst teams in the Pac-10.

And your point was ??

Once again, which conference is it that owns the most NC's?

[Bigdog]

I agree with Boedy. :laugh: :dance: graemlins/lurk.gif graemlins/icon_argue.gif

[Boedy]

I vote we let this thread die.... anyone else?

[Scott B]

Kill it. Put the sports stuff on a different board. Keep this one open for the important things. FISHING.

[DanS]

*

Season's over

[ 01-03-2003, 02:29 PM: Message edited by: DanS ]

[catchmydrift]

Just happy my Trojans won. Let's get back to fishing!

Cheers,
Brent

[Tacklebuster]

Easy fellows... It's just a little post season football debate mixed with a small amount of trash talk. Hopefully nobody taking more out of this than they should. I just like to talk about my SEC teams from time to time. I know this is Pac 10 country but it's all in good clean fun.

Dan,
Didn't USC play Auburn? I didn't know USC was one of the worst PAC 10 teams in the conference.

RELAX it's just football for goodness sakes :shrug:

[DanS]

Just football?
That's like saying it's just fishing.

:grin:

So, ummmmm, about those 'Canes?

[ 01-03-2003, 09:23 PM: Message edited by: DanS ]