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Fast Water
12-19-2002, 09:57 AM
Drift Fishing

Banking with the crowd

Well, we’ve all been situations where a popular (your favorite) fishing hole get a little crowded. You would like to fish with a bit of freedom, but with rivers running a bit high reducing bank space and a fresh batch of fish heading up river, popular spots are often overrun with anglers trying to cash in.

I remember the first time looking at a stretch of water wanting to throw in but seeing five other fishers there evenly spaced out wondering if they would get ticked off if I stepped into the line to fish with them. It happens the other way around too. Your fishing by yourself when suddenly you are surrounded by five “friends” who have suddenly taken interest in the same stretch of water. It can be somewhat intimidating to a novice fisher who want to do well and fit in.

Here is a list of some common courtesies (unwritten rules if you will) that can help a beginner or anyone fishing in these crowded, heavy pressure conditions. Please feel free to chime in with other ideas.

1. When wanting to join a line, spend a few moments and watch the activity. Get a feel for how they are fishing instead of trying to figure it out on the fly.

2. Simply ask, ”Mind if I step in here”? More often than not, you will get a “yes” answer and, though it may not necessarily sound sincere, it is a heck of a lot better than just barging in.

3. Wait your turn. Lets start at the beginning. The “beginning” being the down stream caster. This person will generally set the pace. Each upstream fisher in turn would cast. Make every effort possible not to cast over someone else’s line. This will give everyone a better chance of not getting tangled up with each other or interfere when someone hooks up.

4. Be ready. If you are not ready to cast, just simply say “OUT” so the next fisher upstream can cast. That will give you time to fix whatever the issue is and then you can rejoin on the next round.

5. If you get snagged, say “I’m snagged” and try to get out of it quickly. If you can’t do so with a couple quick jerks then snap it off and re-tie. You don’t want three or four other lines piling into yours as you are standing there testing the strength of your rod trying to save a corkie.

6. Fish on!! Those magic words. If they are not your words, then get the heck out of the way. This may mean simply retrieving your gear and waiting or a quick retreat back to the shoreline as you are reeling in. Pay attention and be ready to react if necessary. If you tangle up with someone who is “on” , SAY SO and flip your bail. Do not apply any pressure and give the fisher a chance to bank the fish. Believe me, when you hook up you will want the same thing from your “friend”.

7. You got one!! Now what. Say, “FISH ON” and don’t be bashful about it. Let them hear you. You may think that it is just a sucker or a whitefish and don’t want to be too enthusiastic about shouting it out. Forget that. We have all seen small little tugs turn into big time head shakes. The fish might just be Mr. Small, and you might take some ribbing for it, but it is all in fun.

8. Where is the fish going? If your slime rocket is heading down stream yell COMING DOWN, and let the people have a chance to get out of the way. Same thing for COMING UP. Don’t forget the fishers across the stream: FISH ON. STRAIGHT ACROSS. If you hook into something sizable and can’t hold your ground, don’t think that because you said it once that the fishers 50 or 100 yard up or down the way have heard you. Rivers can be noisy. Speak up and let them know.

9. When your getting close to banking your fish, watch for a few things. Is the fish clipped? Is it fair hooked? Don’t just rip the fish on the bank and allow it to beat it self up only to find out it is a native. Be prepared to release the fish in the water. That can be tricky thing to do for sure but understand from time to time you will have to do it.

10. Sight fishing. Seeing a fish in the water close up can be exciting and there is no problem in trying to catch it. But after it passes you, let-it-go. It is very irritating and distracting for other fishers when someone is popping in and out of lines following a fish up stream.

11. First time with a bait caster? Maybe you should practice in less crowded conditions until you get your casting drag(s) dialed in.

12. Lending a helping hand. Just don’t rush in to help a fellow fisher bank a fish. Though your intentions are well placed they may not want your help. Instead ask if she/he wants help and what they specifically want. When netting a fish, remember it is one-smooth-motion. Do not place the net into the water and wait for the fish to be dragged into it. It will just get spooked.

13. Straighten up that line mister! If all the fisher stay in a straight or receding line, it will make everyone’s retrieval easier. Don’t be the fisher who stands an extra 5 or 10 feet in the water. It just reduces the amount of fishable water for everyone.

14. Trash. Pack it in. Pack it out. If you don’t have a box of trash bags in you rig, then get some.

Ok. I have brain lock.

Battle fishing is not the neatest thing to do for sure, but with a little patience, understanding and forgiveness of your fellow fishers, your experience in these crowded conditions should improve.

I welcome comments and additions to this list.

Thank you.

:grin:

[ 12-19-2002, 11:15 AM: Message edited by: Fast Water ]

slamin salmon
12-19-2002, 10:23 AM
Great posting! graemlins/applause.gif graemlins/applause.gif Learnig is FUNdamental. :laugh:

crabbait
12-19-2002, 10:28 AM
Well said.

Miss B Haven
12-19-2002, 10:33 AM
Good advice fast water. I'll elaborate on item 3) a little.

Don't try to run "different" gear than the other guys in the line. Spinner fishing does not mix with drifting, does not mix with bobber fishing. When drifting don't use significantly different weight than everyone else. It is critical to have the lines travelling through the drift at approx the same speed to avoid tangles.

Grantspastor
12-19-2002, 10:42 AM
Excellent!

SailCat
12-19-2002, 10:56 AM
What a terrific post! This should be printed out a posted streamside at all those popular locations where bank-fishers congregate.

Thanks, Fast Water.

~MT
The Guide's Forecast (http://www.theguidesforecast.com/)

ColdSteel
12-19-2002, 11:08 AM
Great advice, I've seen some pretty tense situations arise in some these crowded areas.

ragjr
12-19-2002, 11:15 AM
Fast Water

Well said too bad I leard some of them the hard way but I also asked Q's when I first started and some even gave great help to me.

I don"t mind answering a Question or two or asking eather that way I know we are trying to fish the same way to avoid mishaps.

Ray

Dan Christopher
12-19-2002, 11:20 AM
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Three great info. posts at the same time. Only on i-fish. :cheers:

good job Fast Water

SafetyChain
12-19-2002, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE]Originally posted by Fast Water:
[QB]Drift Fishing

13. Straighten up that line mister! If all the fisher stay in a straight or receding line, it will make everyone’s retrieval easier. Don’t be the fisher who stands an extra 5 or 10 feet in the water. It just reduces the amount of fishable water for everyone.
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I had this problem last weekend. On both sides of this guy we were all out of the water because where this guy was standing is where the fish are. Remember that just because you put the waders on does not mean you are required to stand in the water. If you are the only guy in the water on your side of the river, ask yourself WHY? graemlins/idea.gif

[ 12-19-2002, 11:25 AM: Message edited by: SafetyChain ]

Cohodependent
12-19-2002, 11:26 AM
Great post. When I do hook up with a fish if possible I will always try to take the fish down stream and out of the drift so the others can continue fishing. For the most part I have always been able to move back into my spot, I will always allow some back into the theirs after they are done fighting a fish. The key is communication with every one involved.

choppers
12-19-2002, 01:25 PM
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metalhead madness jr
12-19-2002, 01:42 PM
number 13 is great. I also like the fact that I had no idea i need to keep my line starit. Thanks.

Cutter
12-19-2002, 02:21 PM
Great post Fast Water, this was my first year fishing for steelhead. I've read several books and articles and have made a couple of trips just to watch what other do in these situations, but I still don't feel comfortable coming into a big group or if a group suddenly shows up. I do so much better when no one is watching my techniques, :smile: .

Thanks for the post, all this information really helps out a lot.

KingFisher85
12-19-2002, 03:17 PM
Something that I don't like is when a person brakes off, they leave to go retie and someone walks right on in and starts fishing in there spot.

Steeliehunter
12-19-2002, 05:58 PM
Excellent post. :cheers:

rebell
12-19-2002, 07:25 PM
fastwater, That was probably one of the best post's I have read on ifish. Thank you! You are welcome on my gravel bar anyday. :cheers:

Fast Water
12-19-2002, 09:43 PM
Thanks everyone. :grin:

I would like to think that Ifish would take most of the credit. :cheers:

This is a first rate community/board and I have learned a lot just for being here. If the concepts and ideas of the Ifish members spill out on to the rivers and streams, so much the better.

:grin:

Navigator
12-19-2002, 10:40 PM
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steelheadslayer
12-19-2002, 11:13 PM
Great post FW, graemlins/applause.gif a lesson on crowded fishing is always timely these days. Now, if only most of the dudes out there fishing could only work a computer and read. graemlins/stupid.gif

Fast Water
12-20-2002, 12:03 AM
Thanks everyone for the praise. :blush:

I hope this helps. I routinely fish in crowded areas and I see all sorts of "techniques" good and bad.

15. Read and understand the regulations. Keep a copy in your rig or in a ziplock bag tucked in the back pocket of your vest.

:smile:

Fish'nDude
12-20-2002, 12:23 AM
Fantastic post Fast Water,

Thanks for the excellent info. These unwritten rules are hard to learn on your own. As a rookie I know now I upset people and didn’t realize it. Thanks again.

Bankbound
12-20-2002, 12:36 AM
That was a great post. One thing to add is that if overall you are not comfortable with fishing in these conditions you do not have too. There is always another hole, slot etc...somewhere else.
I am fairly new to the game (three years now) and I still do not like fishing like that. I don't have a problem backlashing but I just know that if I joined the mayhem I would!! My luck. Besides I enjoy myself better away from the crowds. Like you said it can be intimidating, not to say that I'm afraid of it it is not for everyone.
However I have stepped up before and not had much trouble, I prefer to stop and watch (take a break from fishing) when I come upon people fishing this way. I get a kick out of how they all cast rythmicly work together and have fun. when it all comes down to it they enjoy the same thing as me they just go about it differently. Fish on brothers (and sisters)!

Mike H.

Smj
12-20-2002, 06:46 AM
Good rules to fish by Fast water. I guess people must have less common sense today than 18 Yrs. ago when I started Fishing for steel because all those rules were just common sense back then.

Two things I'd like to add to the list.
1. Sometimes there just isn't enough room for you to squeeze into the line, arms length is too close! Go to the end of the line, what... no water to fish there, get up earlier, go somewhere else or wait 'till someone leaves.
2. When fishing with a long line of fishers (4-20) on a drift and you are near the top of said drift it is improper to fish the entire drift top to bottom by thumbing out an extra 100' feet of line as your offering moves down stream. (Long Lining)
Thank You!

Smj

Steelie Steve
12-20-2002, 07:03 AM
Mark,
Great Post. graemlins/applause.gif graemlins/applause.gif graemlins/applause.gif

I know the spot you fish. Was there just last weekend. It is all too obvious when someone doesn't follow the crowd when fishing in these conditions. Frustrating for all around them.

Again, thanks for the reminder of the "rules". Next time I see you there, I will come by and introduce myself.

Steve :cheers:

CARTMAN
12-20-2002, 10:10 AM
I wanted to say thanks. I have not had the oppertunity to bank fish yet. But having this info I think I will be better prepared. If you have any other tips I would be glad to listen. Of course I will post a story after I fish. Thanks again.

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eightball
12-20-2002, 03:27 PM
I know that crowded feeling. Used to fish the Rogue for half pounders. Drove down one night and got there just at daylight. Had to walk up river aways and wade to an island. Well there were all ready 6 people lined up. I watched for a bit and saw If I wanted to fish the only place I was going to get was the top of the line. The lower guy was out in waders up to his waist. It was early and overcast. There is a big riffle that moves right along and is shallow. Well dry hooks don't catch fish. All I had was the top half of the riffle I caught 5 fish in eight casts and was done. One other fish was caught in the time I was there. I did feel a little guilty as every fish I caught was jumping right in front of the other fisherman. As soon as I was out of the way a lady moved right to where I had been. Every place where there was line of fishermen worked just like your post said they should. It does make a crowded situation tolerable. I have seen rude people fshing but for the most part,people are polite and considerate. :smile: :smile:

skein
12-20-2002, 03:44 PM
Send this to Salmon Trout Steelhead. I'll bet they will print it and their readership - experienced or newbies - will appreciate it.

Nice post.

Skein