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Hogmaster
11-24-2002, 06:28 PM
My apologies up front to those that hate the long stories. But for those of you that can persist through, sit down and enjoy yet another chapter of “As The Impeller Turns”…

This is not the most miserable trip I have been on. That would be one involving freezing rain and sleet. But it is certainly the COLDEST trip.

A few years back my buds “Dick I” and “Reel Dick” agreed to take Dick I’s “Fast Bob” (a wood drift boat aka a “Rapid Robert” – beautiful boats, but I digress) on a float trip from Oxbow Park to Dabney Park on the Sandy.

The date was December 18th. It had been clear and the notorious east wind had come with a vengeance a couple days beforehand. We, being weekend warriors with few opportunities to fish, were not about to let a little weather keep us at bay.

As we met in Troutdale that morning over breakfast, Reel Dick was quite comfortable. He is from Minnesota, transplanted first to Alaska before Oregon so needless to say he knows all about cold. He was looking positively toasty in his down snowmobile suit as we sucked down some hot coffee and eggs before we made the foray into the elements.

Dick I and I too were well, dressed. Heavily layered if not owners of down suits. Lots of wool items were in order, though little did we realize how important they were going to be. We looked like three Michelin men as we left the eatery.

We dropped a rig off at Dabney, loaded up in Dick I’s mini-van and off to the Oxbow launch we set. It seemed unusually chilly and as we got to Oxbow we realized why. The friendly weatherman on the radio let us know that it was a whopping 7 degrees out! After a quick sanity check we decided that it was no problem. We knew it was going to be cold, had dressed for it and what the heck, we did have a heater and all.

So we carefully backed down the ramp and launched the “Bob”, loaded in and started the trip. We did notice no one else had launched or was waiting to launch as we put in. More fish for us we thought!

It was then we realized our first miscalculation. You see, there was a 35MPH east wind that fine crisp clear morning. It had an effect I am certain that more experienced Sandy River drifters know about than we realized until then, but that east wind has a nasty habit of making a left turn and blowing at about the same velocity UP the Sandy River. 7 Degrees and a 35 MPH wind makes the chill factor somewhere below the point of bothering to measure. Or maybe even scalable. While we were dressed for non- skin exposure as much as possible, it was still a very rude shock to realize that even in the fast moving upper stretches of Oxbow, the boat was kiting so badly we hardly moved downstream!

We decided that drift fishing was going to be non-productive since our gear wouldn’t have a chance to hit water with the force III gale. Instead we pushed below the power lines, the demarcation point for being allowed to fish from the boat. Once we got below there we set three diver and shrimp rigs out and Dick I started the slow row downstream. Sure enough, SLAM! And fish on! It was Dick I’s rod that went down so he immediately dropped the anchor and Reel Dick and I got our gear up then watched as he brought a big buck to the boat. It had to weigh in the mid teens but it didn’t fight real hard. We figured it, like us, must have been slowed by the cold. He elected not to retain it even though it was clipped and we suddenly weren’t quiet so cold…

Well, this is the real start of the adventure. When Dick I went to pick up the anchor rope, we quickly learned an important factor about water, 7 degrees and a 35MPH wind. See, it was so damn cold that as soon as he lifted the wet rope out of the river the rope INSTANTLY froze! And it froze in a manner that was not conducive to slipping through the pulley system on the boat’s anchor mount! Each foot and ½ of rope would come through and freeze solid, then would not coil but rather look like a frozen pretzel portion in the bottom of the boat. We had to hand over hand and force the rope in. All three of us. It was simply amazing how fast it froze!

Once the anchor was lifted we started downstream again and sure enough we got another hookup. Dick I had the hot rod and what to do? While he fought the fish I tried to force the now hopelessly frozen kinked rope out the pulley system. It was pretty comical as Reel Dick reeled rods, I monkey’d myself to the back of the Bob, Dick I was on the fish and we could all barely hear each other over the howl! Slowly but surely I got the anchor to the bottom and Reel Dick netted a smaller but mint bright buck just as the boat stopped.

Up again came the rope in small increments. So this exercise occurred a couple more times on the drift and all in all we did pretty well in the catching department. Memory is a bit fuzzy now, but I think we all had fish that day.

But after about the third drop and raise of the anchor, I noticed Dick I seemed to be laboring extra hard. Why became apparent as I looked at his 8 ½ foot ash oars and saw that there was literally an inch or so of ice from the top half of the paddle to almost the oarlock. A check of the other oar showed same. Man, no wonder he was struggling! The sticks were no longer well balanced and they weighed about twice as much as normal.

We decided to drop anchor, get out the heater cooker and boil up the polish dogs we brought. This would give his arms a rest and we could warm ourselves a bit while still fishing a slot. It wasn’t like we were hoarding any holes since no one else was idiotic enough to be out there that day.

Anyway, the hot polish plan was soon put to rest by the fact there was simply no way to keep the heater lit. When we would get it started, even when covering the area with Reel Dick’s sizable body, the wind pushing though the gaps would cause two things to happen.

First it would cause the heater to howl like a whistling peete firework. Amazingly loud, and something about leaning over a flaming 5 gallon propane canister that has enough blast potential to send parts of us to various counties while it sounds just like a bomb about to go off was, shall we say, a little “disconcerting”?

Secondly, as soon as we moved back (or flinched), the wind would blow out the flame. In retrospect this may have been a good thing. But at the time getting something warm in the body seemed like it would have been nice.

Anyway, after pondering our lot we decided to take the “eye upper” (fish knocker) and tried to pound the oars to break the ice free. This worked to a small degree and once again we lifted anchor a foot and ½ at a time and started downstream again.

Except now Dick I was laboring more than ever. At first I figured he was just worn from the extra weight of ice on the oars when I happened to look over the side of the Bob. Oh, Crap!!!

Well the same inch of ice that had formed on the oars it turns out had also been forming on the sides of the boat! Each time we went through white water the splash would hit the sides of the boat, ice up and instantly freeze. Over the course of a few hours and the boat must have weighed double what it did when we started!

We took it to shore and tried beating the sides with the eyes upper but it did little good. The ice would not break free and we were a little sensitive to destroying an otherwise immaculate wood drift boat. After a rest period Dick I insisted he could safely get us the rest of the way to Dabney. We were all pretty done by now, but had a few more miles to go. The layers and layers had done their job, but removing gloves to bait and such, as well as exposed skin on the face meant that certain body parts were getting to the critical stage. Also we were all pretty tired. Certainly Dick I from the rowing (he had even stripped down some!), but I was tired too from hopping and jumping and forcing rope and pounding ice and just trying to EXIST in the conditions.

Well, for those not in the know, the last stretch before the takeout is really pretty much frog water. That sounds good except when your boat wants to fly back upriver from the howling frozen wind all while it weighs double what it should. Mr. Itcher pushed us through it as fast as he could muster but at all not too soon.

When we finally got to the launch we decided that Reel Dick should stay with the boat while Dick I (His real name is Steve by the way) and I went to get the rigs. Reel Dick had the snowmobile suit on after all. When I got in my rig and fired it up (took some effort – even it was slow that day) the radioman mentioned that it had “warmed” to a toasty 13 degrees.

I wrote this one because we are going to have another day like this in our future. If any of you think about the drifting on the Sandy with single digit temps and strong east winds, make sure you have a stickman who has arms that look like Popeye’s. And you might want to bring a blowtorch. Not sure how you’ll keep it lit though. It really wasn’t all that great a time even though we stayed relatively warm. On the other hand the fishing might actually be OK.

Hogmaster

:cheers:

MarlinMark
11-24-2002, 06:48 PM
Great story. There are things in there a western Oregonian hardly ever thinks about. You didn't even mention the problems you probably had with ice in your tackle. Glad to hear you guys caught fish though.

Mark

Fishalot
11-24-2002, 06:48 PM
Great story as always H-M and thank you for the reminder :smile: of how cold weather can be unpredictable :shocked: Glad you all made it through that day .

Fishalot

Hogmaster
11-24-2002, 06:53 PM
No, Mark, I didn't mention the tackle because believe it or not it wasn't a problem. The wind was so fierce that we actually didn't get much icing on the rods or reels. They would dry out so fast that it would simply break free. And once the gear got in the water it was fine. One of us left the shrimp out of the cooler for about a minute though and they were suddenly ice shrimp. Fortunately we brought two boxes and kept the other one in the cooler. The frozen eggs never did thaw for some reason though!

Flatfish
11-24-2002, 06:58 PM
Hog,

it brings me great comfort (not "we" as in the dog and "I", because the only thing the dog finds comfort in is a half eaten roast beef sandwich) to know that I do not stand alone. And if I was to stand alone, it would be on the Kilchis river in'91 or '92( can't remember which year,froze that part of my brain) when it was kinda chilly. Our worst morning came from the JD. We lived in bend at the time, a 10 day cold snap had just passed thru and we were ready to fish.
2 lessons learned( 3 if you are on a 2 day trip-dry the anchor rope in the laundrymat-)
First- Tuf line will freeze to itself on the reel. Do not use it when the weather is 15 degrees out all day (15 was a lot warmer than the below zero highs we had for a few days. Almost balmy) and make you cuss like a sailor.
2- Ice that freezes to the bank will break off in large sheets and take all of your plugs down at the same time. If there are large chunks of ice lingering in your favorite river, stay home for another week or two.
Keep up the good work...err bad judgement

Mark and the well fed dog.

[ 11-24-2002, 08:26 PM: Message edited by: Flatfish ]

Fast Water
11-24-2002, 08:28 PM
Thanks Hog. Good reading.

:grin:

SandySteel
11-24-2002, 08:32 PM
:shocked: Wow! I bet you had to fight off all of the other anglers to get to the powerlines first. NOT! All I can say is you are tougher than I am.

My only really cold day out fishing was back in 95 when I was going to school in Corvallis as a student teacher but the freezing rain had closed the schools so I had the day off. I was, at that time a newbie to winter steelhead (or any steelhead being an Idaho boy raised on trout)and I decided to check out the Alsea.
I took off in our old 80's silver Toyota Tercel and drove up an old back road through Monroe which is paved on the East side but not the West side.
I got going up the hill and was doing fine but as the road got steeper I found the wheels would slip. Suddenly I was going no where. I was bound and determined to get up this hill. I had the day off, I was on an adventure, and I am not one to give up easily. It took me 5 times to get over the top but once there it was easy sailing down the hill.
I stopped at a couple of points and checked out the river trying to catch a fish without any real purpose in my fishing.
The only real action was some that I witnessed just down from the hatchery another angler pulled up and immediately pulled out a small hatchery brat weighing about 8 lbs. It was actually the first steelhead I had seen in person. It would be several more years before I would catch one myself but just exploring new territory, making it over the hill in that crappy little car, and seeing that fish made it worthwhile.

Eric

[ 11-24-2002, 09:48 PM: Message edited by: SandySteel ]

fish_on
11-24-2002, 08:38 PM
Ice fishing on Mudlake Idaho mid January -55. Too cold to work so we went fishing. When it's that cold you stay warm just trying to keep everything from freezing.

KingFisher85
11-24-2002, 08:54 PM
Good story hog. :grin: graemlins/applause.gif And I'm the one out there standing in the water saying that its not that cold. :hoboy: graemlins/stupid.gif

Snagly
11-24-2002, 11:56 PM
I liked the story. I've been out on some wickedly cold Alaska days but fortunately none in which the wind blew so hard consistently up river. I've told my favorite story before (couple of years ago), so here's the executive summary. Out with a guide and a buddy, and experiencing the single hottest steelhead bite of all time. The snow is falling with big, soft flakes. Almost impossible to see the line, but the fish were hooking themselves half the time. The guide forgot the heater, but not to worry 'cause he's got a jet. So he takes a soda can, removes the lid, pours in some gas and lights it. So far so good. The guide is warming his frozen hands when Slick hooks another one. The fish takes off downstream, Slick runs to the back of the boat and over goes the 7-Up can full of gas. Instantly flames a foot high cover the back of the boat, including Slick's wading boots. I'm in the bow and rather nervous as I see the bright fluoro orange gas cans on fire, too. We're anchored in 4-5' of 36 degree water in 4 mph current. I figure I'm dead either way if the boat blows up. Eventually the guide gets the fire out and Slick lands a low teener chromer.

My heart rate drops below 195, and then I see the guide using pliers and his knife trying to straighten out the now-flattened can. Yep, we did it again! Makeshift heater #2 lasts five more minutes before Slick kicked it over and we did the merry dance stomping on the flames all over again.

A great fishing day overall, and danged glad to have lived to tell the tale.

(I guess that was the long version after all. )

Great Dane
11-25-2002, 04:33 AM
Cool story Hog, thanks!!

In this part of the world, we do get some periods with cold weather and I remember a few years ago we were (working, not fishing), chasing radiotagged salmon in a river, meaning that we launched the 11 foot boat 35 km upstream the mouth and then moved downstream scanning the area. This December day it was really cold, I guess ot was well below -20degrees (celcius) that night and man, did we freeze our butts off just sitting motionless in that little boat for hours. At a point we had to stop to get out and take a leak, but alas!! My filtsoles were frozen with the ½ inch-layer of water in the boat, so I could'nt move. Luckily the solution was close at hand and after my fellow biologist and myself had emptied our bladders on my boots, I managed to get them free and we moved on untill we got caught in piling ice further downstream and had to escape upstream and call it a day.

Jennie@ifish
11-25-2002, 04:55 AM
I'll never forget fishing one time when it was so cold that I couldn't feel my hands AT ALL.

I was jack fishing on the coast, all by myself.

I caught this just monster jack, and I was so excited!!! I couldn't find anything to whack it with. Finally, a wet, mushy stick...OK! Whack! Whack whack whack!!!!!

I think it's dead.

Later, I got home, and realized my hand was swollen up twice the size it should be. I had been so excited, and my hands so numb, that I had whack! Whack! Whacked my hand!!!

No wonder the fish took so long to expire...

Jen

FEAR NO FISH!
11-25-2002, 05:35 AM
A few years back all of the ramps were frozen at McNary. Low single digits on the thermo. No way to back a boat in due to solid ice.

I really needed to fish so I came up with a bright idea. I could get into my float tube and shimmy out over the edge of the ice and troll by kicking my fins.

Things went well for the 1st thirty minutes. Then I started getting real cold. I figured I could take it for a while longer. I kick trolled back and forth along the ice edge on the rip rap. I remember getting so tired that I actually thought about taking a nap, then the shivering kicked in. I shivered so hard it was like a dog trying to pass a peach seed.

I finally realized what a fool I was, then the cramps set in. Here I was floating around with no idea of how I was going to get out of the water. I thought about trying to get over to the Nav lock and trying to climb a ladder. No way. I was in serious trouble with no one around.

I knew it was time to save my own life. I managed to throw my rod onto the ice. For the next 15 minutes I floundered around like a minnow while trying to pull myself sideways up onto the ice. I made it and had to literally roll to the rocks. I was out of the water but now had to climb the 50 feet of rip rap to get to my truck. It was the hardest climb I have ever did.
I survived. I was a fool that lived. No, I didn't catch any fish either, too darn cold! graemlins/stupid.gif

[ 11-25-2002, 02:29 PM: Message edited by: FEAR NO FISH! ]

Lockjaw
11-25-2002, 05:53 AM
Hog,
Grate story.I had a day on the Siletz just like yours many years ago. The only thing to add to it would be at the take out, we had a inch of ice on ramp,and two hundred feet up to the road. I had a hand winch. I'll never for get it :rolleyes:

L J

Conn
11-25-2002, 06:24 AM
Hog,

Great story, anyone who fishes the Sandy has been caught in the east wind once or twice.

We had a rough experience on the same float about three years ago. You may remember the snowstorm the weatherman missed. As we pulled into Oxbow we were told the flakes falling would turn to rain and it would be a steady drizzle all day. No problem right? Well the temperature fell about 10 degrees in the next hour and the greater Portland area got about 15 in that day. Thanks Mr Weatherman. graemlins/stupid.gif

We figured we'd fish as we normally would and thought it was cool to fish in the snow. Unfortunately snow is heavy and after a few hours we had about a foot of snow in the boat. Very cold and very hard to maneuver the boat. Bottom line no fish very cold.

CATCH AND EAT
11-25-2002, 07:00 AM
Last January Uncle Bob and I took a trip with David Johnson to a zipperlip coastal river. Left Portland early where it was a balmy 33 degrees.

Got into the coastal range and David had to get out and lock his hubs. Must have been really cold or he must have had to much coffee. :shocked:

It was snowing a little but the roads were pretty slick from the cold temps during the night. Snow was packed at the peaks which made for some slow going. After the peaks David got out to unlock his hubs again. Must have been really cold then or he drank way too much coffee. :hoboy: I thought my wife was with us that day since we were stopping so much.

Got to the river. Snowing a little. Lauched. Rained a little. Stopped and anchored. Fish on. snow. Drifted to next spot. Sleet. fish.
next spot. Hail. two fish. next spot. snow. fish. next spot. rain. fish. Not the coldest of days but certainly an interesting day of weather and good fishing..

I have been on other rivers where the line was freezing to the guides and I had ice hanging from my rod. That was just plain cold.

A-Boss
11-25-2002, 07:32 AM
I was steelhead fishing years ago on a cold december day. Manged to catch one and was gutting it. My hands were totally numb and not working very well. I clumsily cut the gills out and am rinsing out the blood when I start thinking to myself, man this fish has a lot of blood in it.

Looked a little closer and realized I'd sawed about half-way through my finger and didn't even feel it. Wrapped a hankercheif around it and headed for home. The hankercheif was completly soaked with blood by the time I got home.

First Light Bite
11-25-2002, 08:31 AM
Great story. I fished the Nestucca under similar conditions years ago -10 degrees. Lost 2 fish to icebergs floating downstream. They don't fight too well when its that cold but the icebergs fought like crazy. Finally landed 1 and it froze stiff before I could get it to the car.
I just went home then. graemlins/idea.gif

Hogmaster
11-25-2002, 10:55 AM
From a friend who asked his story be posted...

I should let you post a fishing experience involving my friend and I on the upper-upper Kalama, middle of winter butt ass cold frozen ice inthe guides day. Walking along a thin ledge with the rock wall sticking out further than the footpath my friend lost his balance and went through all these girations to stay on the ledge. Just when it seemed he had regained it he thrust himself toward the rock wall and the 1lb. coffee can with the boraxed eggs had enough spring in it to send him off-balance and into the Icy brine he went. I initially thought this was funny but only his hat was above H2O and it floated down river!! Suddenly the H2O exploded with a flurry of thrashing arms and legs and he appeared to be walking on H2O. I realized this could be serious and started down river and helped him out. He had to get out of the drenched clothing which was already beginning to stiffen. I usually wear double of everything and gave him my top layer. Needless to say we didn't fish the rest of the day and the heater in my old 58 pontiac was on full blast. We were finally able to laugh at the near tragedy. I'll never forget that look on his face as he was falling off the 20 foot cliff into what seemed like a fiord.

Brrrrr....!

id. painter
11-25-2002, 12:08 PM
I spent years ice fishing Clark Canyon Res. in Montana. Very high winds and sub. zero temps.We had to take along a cooler to keep the fish from freezing instantly when you landed one.We used to take a camp trailer out on the ice and spend the night. Wild nights , the pop and squeaking of the ice can give you some wild dreams.... id. painter.

Miss B Haven
11-25-2002, 12:24 PM
OK- Already told this on the Sturgeon Challenge thread, but here it is again. Went to Coverts (the Fishery) one time in January, cold, clear East wind etc. We were not the only Crazies there because someone had launched a boat before us. How do I know you ask? Cause when we got about 1/2 way down the ramp we hit the water from the first guy pulling his boat back up the ramp. Only it was solid ice when we got there. My truck, the boat and trailer just slid backwards (brakes locked, foot through foor, arms pulling on wheel) down the ramp until the back tires of the truck hit the water. graemlins/1zhelp.gif Man - I'm sure glad the ramp doesn't just drop off there! :shocked:
Next thing was that the steering cable was frozen on the boat. It was so cold on the drive the moisture in the cable had frozen. A little bangin', a little workin' the wheel and a lot of heat from the propane heater and we were in business. I wasn't about to try to pull that boat back up the ramp anyway, so might as well get the steering working!
We did fish and the ramp dried out during the day. Notice I said dried, not thawed. I'm real sure the ice just sublimed from that dry east wind. I think we got one shaker for our effort. We were so cold we really didn't want a bite at all. A bite might mean having to rebait and handling those smelt was just not any fun at all in that temperature! :grin:

Hogmaster
11-25-2002, 04:58 PM
Dear Fishing Geek,

I had avoiding looking that up for years! :shocked:

I better go get the hot tub running again.

:cheers:

Mad Mikey
11-25-2002, 08:20 PM
This link has saved me a lot of grief on the Sandy. check it before you go, if the East wind is howling, go to the Clack, it is very shielded from it.

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/wrhq/GetMetar.cgi?TTD+Public

MADWIZERD
11-25-2002, 09:44 PM
OK here is my sandy river story.

About 16 years ago my girlfriend and i went down to the pipeline hole one cold winter morning.She loved to go with me as long as i would start a fire for her to sit by, so i did. Little did i know i would need it. Well i was out fishing about 6 people up from the bottom of the hole and nobody was getting anything so i went to warm up after dealing with frozen rod real and hands. My hands and body were so cold from the freezing rain and the winds.
I just needed a break. I went up to the fire and lowered my hip boots ( ya hip boots,i was just starting the winter thing) and tried to warm up my legs. Then i here fish on, turn to look as the first guy down the drift had one on, then hear fish on again and again.The 2nd and 3rd guys got one too.So i race back in to the water to get my line out. Well after i got in and the shock about killed me i remembered that i hadn't lifted the waders up.doh. Back to the fire i go. I take off the wet socks and drain the boots and back to the water i go.Boy my feet got cold out there in the next hour, but then they started to feel much better so i keep fishing. About 3 hours after this we decided to leave and walked out to the truck. I got there and i couldn't get my boots off.( That's weird i thought) oh well lets go home. . Well you guessed it i almost lost all of my toes the doc said. I learned a good lessen that day.Never take your girl friend fishing,she will just laugh at you. :grin:

[ 11-25-2002, 10:48 PM: Message edited by: MADWIZERD ]

crabbait
11-25-2002, 10:12 PM
Plunking near the mouth of the Sandy in the late eighties, temp about 12 or 13 degrees. Pitched my spin 'n glo behind a big rock that had held fish before and before I could set the rod in the forked stick FISH ON!

I landed the brat and cast back out thinking this was going to be a great day! Tossed the fish onto the 6-8" thick ice that lined the shore from before the water level dropped.

Fsihed for a few more hours with no more fish caught and did not see any others caught. Picked up the fish which now was as limber as a bowling pin, cocked it over my shoulder like a rifle and headed back to the rig.

FishinMission
11-25-2002, 11:01 PM
Kinda reminds me of a night me, a friend and a buddy spent on the Deschutes. Only they were probably a bit better prepared than I.

We floated Warm Springs to Maupin...musta been mid April to May?? The days were warm..the nites colder than a...well..never mind.

I thought nothing when I threw in my sleeping bag. A sleeping bag one could look back on and figure wasn't anywhere near warm enough for the cold nite coming up.

Long story short...I shivered all night, fingerless gloves, long unds, hooded sweatshirt....all the clothes I could find I had on.

In the morning when we got up, our waders were frozen to the boat, the water jug was frozen, and your tongue would've stuck to the frozen aluminum driftboat. And don't ask me how I know that.

Another long story short...GI Joes sold a very nice and warm sleeping bag before I made it home.

BBBBbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Cold is no fun.

Mark

The Fishing Geek
11-25-2002, 11:11 PM
Seven degrees and 35mph winds come out to roughly -39F. Hardly thong weather.

Paddlefish
11-25-2002, 11:15 PM
Hog, you still de best!

(Except at cold: then the Sandy's still the best!)

My buddy and I arrived above Gordon Creek in miserable, stiff-line conditions, just about dawn one January day. There was a flickering driftwood fire going on the bank when we arrived.

Who'd be crazy enough to be out here earlier than this?

As we approached close enough for our vision to penetrate the gloom we discovered the truth: the steelhead were warming themselves around the fire.

(And that's the closest we got to a steelhead that day too! :depressed: )

Timber
11-25-2002, 11:18 PM
Had it so cold on the santiam that the anchor rope froze in a wad to the bottom of the boat and couldn't be broke loose without breaking something else.I had to keep reminding myself how much fun I was having.Tim

Manimal
11-25-2002, 11:54 PM
Holly cow! Those are some nasty stories!
And I thought I was cold on the Cowlitz, Hogmaster! :shocked:

Hogmaster
11-26-2002, 04:34 AM
Manimal -

You WERE cold on the Cowlitz! That is what I meant about the trip I described being the coldest, not necesssarily the most miserable. Your gear soaking through on a near freezing windy and wet wet day fall into the later category. At least you caught a silver to help warm things up...

A good to post that link, MadMikey. You're right, usually the Clack is bearable when the east winds blow, the Sandy frankly just isn't worth it.

Sandy Steel and a couple others have pointed out it is sometimes almost necessary to take the boat to shore and drag it through the wind once you get to that frog water in high wind conditions.

:cheers:

Pete
11-26-2002, 04:59 AM
Did anyone else, other than me, fish during the ice storms in the late 70's? Remember the inch thick ice that brought down power all over Portland? My puny little apartment had electric heat. It wasn't doing me much good without electricity. I was bundled up like an eskimo, shivering my fillings loose when I heard a knock on my window. It was a fishing buddy with his Jeep! Heat in the Jeep! Yay! I grabbed my gear and we s l o w l y headed north to the as-yet still pristine, pre-St. Helen's Toutle. The normally one hour trip took a little extra time, but we weren't going anywhere else, anyway. We fished, grew our own personal layers of ice and overall had a pretty good day on the river at the Hollywood Gorge.

The real fun came on the way home. The cold, east wind was still turning rain to ice on everything ... including the Jeep. In retrospect, the soft top just wasn't ideal! The wipers were going, but not very effectively. Any forward motion just added to the wind chill and the windshield was icing up badly. The defroster couldn't keep up. We quickly used up the windshield washer fluid. On the way home we had to stop every few minutes to chip the ice off the glass to see where we were headed. It just wasn't safe. I don't recall if it was providence, desperation or insanity, but one of us remembered that we had some excess 3.2% alcohol content fluids in the back seat that hadn't frozen. We added a couple cans of suds to the cleaner bottle. At that point, all I can say is that God must look after the young and stupid. It turns out that when you run beer through a windshield washer spray system, when it hits a cold windshield it foams up before it freezes. We couldn't see a darned thing at all! The rest of the slow ride home was spent alternately pulling over to scrape the windshield and cataloging which friends heated with wood.

[ 11-26-2002, 06:00 AM: Message edited by: Pete ]

fisheromen
11-26-2002, 08:16 PM
Salmon River, Idaho. Christmas of '85. Spent two days fishing in 0-10 degree weather. We would walk out on the ice over the river to the channels through it, flip the bait out, and walk down at the same speed as the water to keep the ice flow from pulling our line. I never would have had the balls to be out on that ice if it wasn't for the local guy I was with. I caught 8 sluggish steelhead in two days and kept warm, mostly, by looking like the pillsbury doughboy under my layers. Thank God for Sorrels! And man, that place is beautiful in winter - especially since no one else was stupid enough to be out there. I think we saw maybe two other guys in those two days.

Another time was a freak cold thing on the upper North Fork Nehalem before they closed it for Silvers. It was the end of Nov. and there were ice chunks floating down the river. I managed to catch a few before slipping and filling my hip boots. I've never made the trip back to my truck so quickly!

slamin salmon
11-27-2002, 08:09 AM
I for one am glad your stories have depth and are well written. My favorite part of ifish is the stories. Good ones like yours most of all. Please keep doing it the way you do.
Thanks , :cheers: graemlins/applause.gif Slamin Salmon