UG lands Clackamas River Chrome on 11/07

[AnglersRental]

Clackamas River Chrome - 11/07/02

http://www.ifish.net/uploads/454218310.jpg

Provided for your viewing pleasure courtesy of Uglygreen

First of Season, taken on bobber and jig about 4:00 this afternoon, hooked and released 2 wild summers and then found this sneaky little 5 pound silver-sided white belly hatchery brat hiding in the hole!!! Many more to come (hopefully).....

UG

[ 11-07-2002, 07:36 PM: Message edited by: Uglygreen ]

[Tagster]

Very nice!!

And that would be which hole, again?

:grin:

Great job, dude!

[fish-on]

Brad is that you? nice feesh!!!

[ampersat]

wow! you caught that fish tomorrow! no wonder you're outfishing us all. i'll have to check the regs on that one.

[AnglersRental]

OOPS - thanks Ampersat, I changed it...

UG

[Hogmaster]

They're EARLY!!

Congrats!

[ssteelheadsteve]

First, to share a secret; If the above Pic is a Eagle Creek WS as i suspect at first glance then you all can now know that the "fish" above is NOT EARLY. Read into that what you may.

I hope the rest of the run is a "little" heathier loooking. I think that is a skinny fish.
What clips did it have ?
How long was it ?
What is the state of sexual delvopment ?

Seperate Issue:

Aren't you all amazed at the huge number late Native Summer Steelhead in the Clackamas the last 3 years ?
Me thinks you all need to be taking scale samples and sending them to the Clackamas ODF&W Regional Office.

[ 11-07-2002, 09:21 PM: Message edited by: ssteelheadsteve ]

[Paddlefish]

s-steve:

No talk here about "sexual development" on three-year-olds, please :shocked: !!

The "powers" will come down and neuter your mouse! :depressed:

Pretty fish, though!! :cool:

[SandySteel]

So Steve do you think it is a downstreamer? It does look a little skinny on the belly and I have heard that steelhead will turn bright again after spawning. I am not going to try to judge. It's hard to tell without looking at the fish first hand.

[Bobby Ray]

Hey UG

Were you bobber fishing Wednesday afternoon @ the Hospital hole?

BnB

[Homer]

Nice Fish UG :cheers: I'm sure it will Taste great

[AnglersRental]

Hey, ssteelheadsteve, you wrote:

"First, to share a secret; If the above Pic is a Eagle Creek WS as i suspect at first glance then you all can now know that the "fish" above is NOT EARLY. Read into that what you may."

I guess I don't understand? What are you trying to say? I caught my first winter fish last year 2 miles up Eagle Creek on Nov. 11th. (we did have more water) Why is "fish" in quotes, you think it is not a "fish"?

"I hope the rest of the run is a "little" heathier loooking."

This fish was extremely healthy, not a scale out of place, a very fresh fish. Abosolute beauty. No abraisions on belly or fins, not even any sand under the belly scales.

"I think that is a skinny fish."

Most fish are after you slit their bellies and pull the eggs / guts out.

"What clips did it have ?"

Adipose.

"How long was it ?"

Dont know.

"What is the state of sexual delvopment ?"

Full of eggs, eggs were small pea sized.

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Why are you picking on my fish? Are you a little jealous, maybe? Hmmmmmm?

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UG

ps. - big n bright, yes.

[ 11-08-2002, 07:20 AM: Message edited by: Uglygreen ]

[AnglersRental]

It kinda torques my crank,

Here on Ifish, either

- you dont post a pic and everyone says your full of willamette river water (****).

or

- you post a pic and some people like studderheadsteve above feel the need to rip on it.

Why is that?

UG

[OldRedSled]

and I have heard that steelhead will turn bright again after spawning.
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">mabie after 15 beers brown becomes silver

...how's that go beer goggles..they make um look pretty but not skinny...

ORS

[OldRedSled]

Nice Fish UG :cheers:

was that out of the Former OLD RED SLED????

[Kaptn Ken]

Can't we all just get alooooooooong???

Have a beer! :cheers:

[AnglersRental]

ORS... not yet, the sled is 2/3rds done, picked up the rest of the materials last week, but been fishin a lot :grin: and working on the sled, not! :shocked:

UG

[metalhead madness]

Hey UG I'm with you! Who gives a d@!% about the make or model of the fish. You went out, had fun and had some action. I think some people on the bb get a little green because they can't get out. Or are so unhappy with there own lifes that they feel the need to ruin the excitement of others. Come on it's just fishing guys! Please keep the pics and stories coming because some of us enjoy feeding off the success of others. Can't we all just get along. Great fish and hope you catch many more. :cheers:

[Hogmaster]

UG -

Now I'm not saying it isn't a real picture or anything, but it just sorta looks, if you turn the angle of your head slightly, well, I don't know how to say this but.....

Is that an elk in the back of that picture?????

:grin: :grin: :grin:

The conspiracy theorists abound! And that fish doesn't look a pound over 42. And is that metalflake paint I see on it?

The "comebacks" or "downstreamers" ALWAYS have a very ratty tail from digging out their redds. This fish does not seem to have a ratty tail. And turn bright again? Yeah after going back to sea perhaps.

I am with ya UG. If you say it is what it is then it is what it is.

:cheers:

[k9jeff]

UG,, Thats a nice looking fish. :cheers: Sounds like you had a ball. I hope the bright ones will come in soon and plenty of em. I have a full tank of boat gas and am ready to hit it. :grin:

[AtWorkALot]

Nice...

[O'City Fisherman]

UG: Nice fish. God I can't wait for Monday I get to go fishing again. Hopefully the Clack will be in good shape.

[NEUTRON]

UG...Nice fish. Thanks for sharing. Don't let it
bother you. If you search that member #, it would be very rare to find constructive input. You have added more to ifish in last few weeks than some could muster in a lifetime. Keep fishing and posting...maybe just the fish.
I see where you moniker came from (JK) :wink: .
Green is actually a beautiful color, just ask HM.
Keep up the good work(?).

[CATCH AND EAT]

UG, Thanks for sharing the fish picture. Don't mind the Nincompoops that critique your fish. Obviously they are'nt getting any. Let me clarify that. Getting any fish. :blush: :tongue:

Keep up the good work. :cool:

[Premo]

The fish looks like a summer fish. Definately a chromer. On the Clack, all winter steelhead have another clip except for the 3 salt gnat creek, which would be over ten pounds. eagle creek has a left vent clip.

[Ken Drifter]

Sweeeet ! graemlins/applause.gif

[FishinMission]

SandySteel...they're gonna bash us...but I'm with you on your prior post here.

Mark

[Chris Nordling]

[ 11-09-2002, 02:46 AM: Message edited by: FWF1 ]

[SpinnerDog]

Nice chromer UG...

[Ramstrong]

That's not a down stream fish. As previously stated she's a hen and would be beaten up in the tail region if she was a downstreamer. Second, it's a bit early to be finding downstream fish, even the summers wont be spawning for a month or two. PS, if you want to see what a downstreamer looks like here you go. I made that mistake once. http://www.xprt.net/~ryandsar/pictures/shead3.jpg
Once being the keyword. You can't see it, but the bottom half of the tail was tattered. Didn't know to look then, but knowing is half the battle.

[ 11-08-2002, 03:53 PM: Message edited by: Ramstrong ]

[Jettin' Fool]

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[Mad Mikey]

UG, you look familiar, did you get passed by two guys in a silver/black driftboat?. If so, I know your spot but it's safe with me..... :wink:
We got one wild coho(released of course) and two Summers, all on the blue pirate #30. First Summer was almost chrome and the eggs were alot smaller than I'm used to seeing this time of year, nice red meat and put on a show.
Congrats on the fish, looks like a Winter to me, can't say as I've got one out of there this early but did get a 2001 Summer fish Dec. 2000, kinda cool I think.

D'Oh, just went back and noticed the date, 11-07, not today. Nope you didn't see us but you do have that familar "bankie" look about ya..... :grin:

[ 11-08-2002, 06:31 PM: Message edited by: Mad Mikey ]

[Salmonator]

Looks like a very nice, gutted WINTER chromer. A few years back I caught a 13lb Siletz summer at the end of March. Why couldn't a guy catch a Clackamas winter in early November? Geesh....

[rebell]

UG, nice fish and congrats.

To all of those who cant catch fish,GET A LIFE AND LEAVE POOR UG ALONE TO BRAG ABOUT HIS EARLY WINTER STEELHEAD.

SHEEEEESH.

Even a blind squirel finds a acorn now and then.

[tag-a-long]

What I want to know is what did you bake her in and how many Henry's Norhtwest trail did it take to savor the flavor??? Nice catch UG!!!!!!!! :cheers: graemlins/applause.gif

[Chris Nordling]

Originally posted by Green Pirate:
The fish looks like a summer fish. Definately a chromer. On the Clack, all winter steelhead have another clip except for the 3 salt Gnat creek, which would be over ten pounds. Eagle Creek has a left vent clip<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">EXACTLY !!!

Only adipose = Summer fish.

UG said it was only missing the adipose.

Not much to argue about.....

Nice fish Brad.

Chris :cool:

[ 11-09-2002, 03:31 AM: Message edited by: FWF1 ]

[Chris Nordling]

Originally posted by rebell:

To all of those who cant catch fish,GET A LIFE AND LEAVE POOR UG ALONE TO BRAG ABOUT HIS EARLY WINTER STEELHEAD.

SHEEEEESH.
<font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">Who are you talking about? ssteelheadsteve is a fishing guide as are a few others on this thread.

Just checking to see who you're pointing fingers at.

And another thing...downstreamers don't ALWAYS have a rubbed out tail. Have seen two or three ( some kept ) that did not have this characteristic taken in the last few years.

See the black spots on Ramstrong's fish?And lots of them? That seems to be a little more common in the one's I've seen and heard about.

Just an observation.

UG's fish is CHROME in any Book :cheers:

Chris :cool:

[ 11-09-2002, 03:45 AM: Message edited by: FWF1 ]

[Flatfish]

Nice fish.We did one last weekend that looked the same.Had all the right fins missing too.Our earliest winter ever.I have been chasing these feesh for 20 years.I would be proud of her no matter the strain.
Mark and the still in bed but ready to leap into the truck for another episode of "Duck Avenger" dog.

[AnglersRental]

First -

For the last time - the fish had eggs in it. It was not a downstream spawner.

It might have been a late summer, It had a little bit of an eyeshadow. It might have been an early winter. It was fresh and its November for-gosh-sakes.

Don't read to much into a finclip. It is not the be all and end all. I have helped out finclipping fish at hatcheries several times. When you are doing the clipping, it is not uncommon to miss a clip. Fins on smolts (especially steelhead) are tiny, hard to see, and slippery. You are usually in a hurry, your fingers are frozen, and missing a tiny little fin is not hard.

Go look in the hatchery holding tank for returning adults sometime (or help spawn them) for a "100% clipped run" and you will see that only 90%, maybe less, have the proper finclip. Those unclipped adults in the tank are usually not wild. Finclipping is not an exact science, especially when using volunteers.

Last year I got a steelhead on Eagle Creek in December that had the left ventrical clip but was missing the adipose clip. I have gotten several springers that had half or partial adipose clips.

UG

[ 11-09-2002, 07:12 AM: Message edited by: Uglygreen ]

[AnglersRental]

By the way... speaking of eggs, I landed 3 pinksided summers on friday (11/8). Kept one 7 lb 11 oz adiposed clipped hen, the eggs in the rosycheeked pinksided summer were BB sized, the eggs in the pic of the fish posted were at least twice that size. About the same size as a #14 corkie.

UG

[The Bad Fish]

how about we give the guy a big round of applause,, then shut it,, who gives a crap what its looks like? its chrome, its a steelhead, leave the guy alone.

[Kruechief]

UglyGreen,

Now I see why for the name (you wear green alot...huh?)!

No matter what everyone who has contributed to this thread has increased my knowledge of my favorite sport.

FWF, don't assume though, just because one is a guide that they are some kinda God! I know people who fish MY river who work in mills, drive truck, and other...that will out fish all of us!

I personally have parked next to guides and pulled fish out from under their boat (especially on MY river). My good friend who is a new guide, used to excell in putting clinics on for guides and their clients.

Guides are like any other professional...some good and some bad. Just because they have passed a few tests dosen't make them an authority.

UG, you are ugly, but you ROCK!

Sweet fish buddy.

How 'bout swapping trips, a Santiam run for a Clackamas?

SteelheadSteve, I got some salmon that my cat won't eat, if it'll make you feel better I'll send it to you and FWF.

OH yeah before I forget...

GO BEAVS!

Lo
Kruechief
Team Eddie
Team no puss pockets allowed

[Wally02]

Nice fish, makes me excited for Decmber to come around...............hmmm........chromers......... ..hmmmm...............good........................ ..Doh

[Chris Nordling]

Kruchief,

Where do I begin?? Why does everyone think we're picking on his fish ? Re-read my posts and you will see that I congratulated him on his fish. Twice.

I never claimed any guide was a God, I just replied to someone's comment about not being able to cactch a fish. Seems if you've got an opinion or tell someone they are wrong, then you can't catch fish. By the way , where is YOUR river?? Never heard of Kruchief Creek :tongue:

Keep the salmon. I have plenty from this last week, and the week before, and the week before that.

This is starting to get annoying. :mad:

Brad ( UGLYGREEN)- Left a message on your cell, and sent an email.

NICE FISH :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

edit: Since when on Ifish is it everyone else's job to say stuff like" ...move on and shut it...or leave the guy alone...I thought I could have an opinion.
Sorry if we pointed out some facts. Clips are not the end all, but that is how the Clack identifies it's run of winters. Extra clip = winter fish. It is highly unlikely they would completely miss the "extra"one. More likely to slice or semi-cut, but signs of an attempt should be there.

GO BEAVS!!!!!!!

Chris :cool:

[ 11-09-2002, 11:59 AM: Message edited by: FWF1 ]

[AnglersRental]

Chris... good idea, quit while your ahead... before you foot in your mouth...

"Keep the salmon, especially if it's a springer from your home river. I have plenty from this last week, and the week before, and the week before that."

And if you have been keeping springers off of the south santiam in the last couple of weeks, well, uhhhh.... dont send me one.

UG.

[ 11-09-2002, 10:57 AM: Message edited by: Uglygreen ]

[Orca]

Weird how some peple get about other folks fish. She's a beauty if you ask me!

I'm sitting here with nothing, so if any of you elitist's catch a scrawny little steedhead (guts or no guts) I will run right over and pick it up from you before you have to show it to your friends or family.

Thanks UG, and keep those pictures coming.

[Orca]

Also, anyone who wants to keep debating about fin clips should volunteer to do some clipping, or go watch the clipping being done. Then you will know first-hand for yourself what really happens. I guess about a 80% - 85% clip rate to be normal. Them little fishies are quite slippery.

[Kruechief]

Springer....

Who said anything about a springer?

I was talking about the Alsea buck I caught recently.

Lo

[Chris Nordling]

WHITE FLAG !!!!!!!

Point and click fisherman win.....

NICE WINTER CHROME BEAUTIFUL FISH !!!!!!!!!!!!

Chris