two newbie questions????????

[hardlycatchin]

Hey ifish folks.Hooked up with "MY" largest steelhead ever yesterday 13.5 lbs....not bragging just happy,but this was the most beautiful steelhead ever....I have caught 6 in the last 3 outings and this one was different. This male was a german brownish color with two brilliant red spots on each gill flap and a brilliant red stripe going through its belly. All the females and males preceding this one were a typical silver rainbow color....finally ANYBODY KNOW WHY ???? Second rookie question... a bigger bump of an adipose, but not a full adipose is still considered hatchery....Correct ???? New to this area...thanks for the info

[Keta]

Sounds like it has been in fresh water for a while.

[hardlycatchin]

so they try to look like a salmon while in the ocean and turn in the columbia ? That must be why I only look like a fisherman....have all the gear and very little fish to prove it !!!

[Fish Gaper]

The fish you are describing has been in the river for awhile, most likely a summer run fish. As far as the adipose fin, any missing piece of the fin is considered a miss clip at the hatchery and is legal to keep. Sometimes the bucks that are dark still have bright meat, dark hens are pretty much garbage as far as the meat. Good luck!

[Fishplay]

Sometimes a clipped hatchery fish will regenerate their adipose. Even though it is obviously smaller and different from a wild fish don't keep it. You could be ticketed.

This year in the ocean I returned a huge coho that had a tiny adipose with a small bulb at the end of it. I believe it was a regenerated fin but it's possible it was a native with a birth defect. Nice fish! Not worth a ticket however.

[hardlycatchin]

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[ 10-02-2002, 09:12 PM: Message edited by: hardlycatchin ]

[hardlycatchin]

I dont know what happen with that last reply but the meat was real nice actually darker red than the last five hens I caught ,which were more silver...thanks for the info and yes I released 3 that had square topped adipose but were surely clipped at some point...just not the same as the salmon I have caught ...maybe because the keep aging and returning EH??? No questions on my salmon ever. These fish are all out of spot above 205 in Columbia, Thanks

[hardlycatchin]

By the way whats the ticket ??? graemlins/stupid.gif

[Hogmaster]

This is a peeve of mine. Seems the states of OR and WA do not agree here.

I see you are from Vancouver and if you are using your WA tag you are probably OK to keep a fish that had an adipose removed at the hatchery in a less than complete manner. The regs say the adipose must be clipped.

In Oregon, however, the regs are quite clear that the entire adipose must be completely gone. It is aggravating to me because if the fin was obviously clipped it is obviously a hatchery fish and actually was propogated as a "take" fish.

The ticket is for retention of a wild fish and can be expensive.

[ 10-02-2002, 09:27 PM: Message edited by: Hogmaster ]

[hardlycatchin]

I guess it would be o.k. in Washington, since i have fished here a year and never seen any form of fish and game...now did some spring fishing at Sauvie and Multanoah<spelling> in Oregan and those boys were out every time checking...thanks for your insight...By the way HOW EXPENSIVE...just wondering...boat and gear type expensive???

[ 10-02-2002, 09:39 PM: Message edited by: hardlycatchin ]

[Fishplay]

Hog M
Thanks for the clarification. I was going to post to see if Fish Gaper was using a different set of regs than my Oregon Sport Fishing synopsis but I was called away from my desk. I did not realize Wa state regs allowed this. I will have to read their regs again and a little closer this time!

[LoafsNFishes]

Not an expert on this but....It sounds like the male could have been a summer run. I know at least some Washington rivers have a "recycle" program; trapped steelhead released back into the lower river.

LNF

[TundraIII]

I dont know about the fine for keeping a native Steelhead, but keeping a native Coho on the Columbia or in the Ocean will cost you $299.00. I would imagine that the fine for keeping a native Steelhead would be similar.

[24 on/ 48 off]

Methods of "taking" fish (any kind) violations: $75.00 (snagging, barbed hooks, multiple rods, etc..)

Keeping fish (any kind) in violation of statute: $299.00

--spud-_:)

[Miss B Haven]

****** - We don't have any "endangered" coho, chinook or steelhead do we (Idaho Sockeye maybe)? Listed yes, endangered no ?? It's more of a question than a statement. :whazzup:

[Nanook]

Endangered species, full fine is $25,000. :shocked: