cant believe it!

[live4fishing]

My wife had a meeting in longview yesterday, So I went for a drive down to the kalama river to watch all the people fishing for a short time till she was done. Well, when I got back to the truck some ***hole had slashed two of my tires. :mad: :mad: :mad: I just need to vent, I just dont understand why a person can do something like this. :whazzup: Is there anything we can do to stop this crap from going on. graemlins/idea.gif We need to all come together and try to stop this kind of idiotic crap from going on. :mad: God, I soooo upset! :sick:

[TundraIII]

Lot of pressure in this area, probably someones way of deterring unwanted company on the river. I'm sure youre not the first or the last to experience crap like that there.
It's so amazing to me that it doesnt matter where you go anymore, this type of stuff is going on absolutely everywhere. When are we going to start prosecuting people for in-breeding, I'm quite certain it's still against the law. :mad:

[fishing is life]

park your car there for few days again and wait in the bushes or put a hiddden camera around and kick some butt.

[AtWorkALot]

Same thing happened to me at the 101 launch on the Trask last year. My truck and my boat trailer. I haven't fished the Trask since, so I guess whoever did it got what they wanted. I did hang out a few times down there, hoping to catch someone. I figure it was the high school lunchtime stoner crew.

[kodiakfisher]

I feel the need to post something positive that happened on Kodiak during my latest trip. I was fishing a river about 25 miles from town and when I got back to town stopped by a sporting goods store at which point I realized I was missing a rod. Started to get mad then realized if I had been ripped off they would have taken both rods. So I went back to the river 45min drive and low and behold my rod was still leaned up on the gaurdrail where I had left it. There where an untold number of people that drove within two feet of this rod and nobody picked it up. This isn't the first time I have left gear on the back to have either brought to me or still be there when I got back. This is why I do most of my fishing in Kodiak meet some nice people from Switzerland, some from Germany seemed cranky maybe just me. I also met the nicest bunch of people from Colorado.

There are still nice places around and nice people most people are decent and nice, don't let a few sour ones ruin the whole batch.

[RiverGal]

Kodiak, I definitly agree with you there still some nice places, and still tons of nice people. Anytime I go fishing I come across more positive people then rude ones.

But there are always bad apples. A very similar thing happened to us when we went fishing about a week ago. We parked at the launch and went out in the boat on the chehalis. We have fished here many times before and never had a problem. We were out for about 6 hours, and when we got back the fish checker at the ramp pointed out to us that one of our rear tires was almost flat. So we huslted to the nearsest gas station and pumped her up. Luckily made it home. Took it in to Les Schwabb and they said that we had 3 nails hammered in to our tire(and one in the front which hadn't gone in all the way). He said there was no way we just happened to run over them. They had been perfectly hammered in. Luckily it didn't cost anything to get it fixed(you gotta love LS).

Some people are just arses graemlins/berry.gif

Ri*****l
^I didn't know my name contained a bad word??? Guess I will have to put a space between the words. River Gal

PS.....before we found our tire like that, at least we had an awesome day fishing :grin:

[ 10-01-2002, 01:30 PM: Message edited by: RiverGal ]

[Sturgeon 42]

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[GutshotApe]

The best story about jerks vandalizing vehicles I've heard happened on hwy 30 east of Astoria a few years ago. A state cop working the highway night shift noticed a disabled rig parked on the shoulder. After checking it out, etc., he went on down the road. Later, about 3AM he went back and parked off the hwy in a hidden spot where he could eat his lunch and could see the disabled pickup a little ways down the hwy. Pretty soon an older pickup drove past, slowed down and stopped at the disabled rig. Two lowlifes got out and proceeded to start breaking out the headlights of the parked truck. The Stater fired up his squad car and swooped down on the two hapless vandals. He recognized them from previous arrests and knew that if he arrested them again they'd probably be let off easy and nothing would happen. So he lined them up at gunpoint off to one side, took a piece of pipe out of their truck bed and walked around smashing each and every window, light lens and, for good measure, kicked in the sheet metal of their pickup's doors & sides. "There, how do you like that?" he said. Then he told the two lowlifes to get out of his sight and if he ever caught them again, things would go much worse for them.

Don't know if this story is true, but I sure hope it is!

GSA :smile:

[lost_sailor]

tire-slashing is not a "stoned" activity.

[choppers]

with all the hand guns around you wonder why some one would want hollow points flying at them faster than they could run. i just can't figure that out. because if i catch that dude that's what we have to deal with and after the guy in the midwest who's in accoma after a dozen or more 12-18 yr old kids beat the #$$@ out of him with bats that's what our crazy world has come to. graemlins/berry.gif

[Bankbound]

Preach on lost sailor :cheers:

[BigBeanCounter]

Capital Punishment for riverside vandalism????? I LOVE it !!!

Bet it would nip that c#*p in the bud real quick.

How do we get real constructive legislation like that fast-tracked in Salem??

:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

[Slayer]

Until we say enough is enough, this will only get worse. We need to create some form of society to deal with heathans that are snaggin, being pigs, rude and rude mouths, vandals, and so on. Deal with them in the appropriate manner, and i don't mean a slap on the hand

[RichH]

BBC,

Vote for Mannix. :cheers: :cheers: :wink:

[SKP]

Got to post my story.

About 3 years ago, I left my brand new fishing rod and reel at PC boat ramp. I set it down by the ramp and forgot about it.

I got home that day, and I look around to where my rod is. It's no where to be found, and I remember the place I left it. I thought it was a goner, but wait.......

I get a call a couple of days later from an old neighbor that moved to Dallas, Oregon from Salem. His name is Ray Paul. If you know him, ask him and he will verify this for you. He asks me how fishing was, and I tell him I left my brand new fishing pole and brand new reel at PC. He says, funny thing, my friend found a rod and reel at PC a couple of days ago. I describe it to Ray, and he says he will call me back. Ray calls me back, and his friend says he has my rod and reel. I go to PC the next week to meet the guy, and he brings me back my rod and reel he found. YAHOO! :cheers:

I had already purchased another rod and reel the next night before Ray called me. You hear all kinds of stories at PC, mostly bad, but this was a great one for me! :grin: :grin: :cheers: :grin: :grin:

Sorry to hear about your tire slashing experience by Neanderthals. :mad: graemlins/berry.gif

SKP

[willierower]

SW Washington as more than its fair share of dirtball loosers! I think someone needs to exterminate some of them..................... :cheers:

[ 10-01-2002, 05:40 PM: Message edited by: willierower ]

[marky-sharky]

How about another happy story. :grin: Just last saterday I left my wallet and cell phone on the ground at a local fishing spot. I, like everyone else have everything that is important in there. Anyway's I just recieved a letter in the mail today from a gentleman that wrote "My name is Steve Olson and found your wallet today and here is my phone # to call me and arrange a time to pick it up". I drove out to his house and picked them up today. Everything was the same as the day I lost it, along with the green stuff.($2) :smile: When I thanked Steve all he said was "Your welcome I just hope that someone would do the same for me."Yes there is still decent people out there.

[SandySteel]

I have a positive one...
I had had a very bad day out fishing. Let's just say that aluminum doesn't do well when it gets mixed up with big rocks...... anyway, I was very upset and was not thinking straight.
I ended up leaving almost all of my gear, tackle box, waders, and cooler sitting in the parking lot at Lewis & Clark on the Sandy. I drove home, realized that I had left it all there and hurredly drove back to find it gone. I thought I was toast.
I then get a call that night from a gentleman who lives in Portland telling me that he had my gear and that I could pick it up. It changed my bad day into a not so bad day.
Remember to label all of your stuff with your name and phone number.
Eric

[Plum Crazy]

That is a bunch of Garbage,
I hate to hear of this Junk. I have been tempted to have a friend or my wife drop me off at the drop off and go home with my truck and trailer waiting for my call when I get to the take out. but that is a hastle in its self..
When I bought new wheels and tires for the trailer I probably should have bought wheel locks as well..Who knows....
Sorry it happen to ya. Chin up and all that.
:mad: :mad:

[fishbait]

My 0.02 worth. As you know, is many middle east countries the penality for theft is that they cut off one of your hands.............. And ya know what, in those countries theft is almost non-existant. Wonder why we have so much crime in this country??

[cully]

we have had a thread like this last year. Maybe more in years past. I fish alot. When I'm done, there are times I'll sit in my truck to warm, eat and generally get ready for my ride home. My eyes are wide open. I hope to see someone messing with one of your vehicles, trailors. I would not have a problem approaching said offender and asking what's up, need some help, how's fishing. Just alot of common chit chat. If it did not look like the up and up, I would take it a few steps further. Not the big hammer but a license plate, and a cell call for starters. After that...only time will tell.

[Seefood Man]

Marky Sharky, you met my friend Steve Olsen. We were out on the Lewis this past weekend and he told me about finding your wallet. You have just met one of the finest people out there. I worked with Steve at the old FMS. A fine man and a GOOD fisherman too. :grin:

[Wardendog]

GutshotApe,
I can verify that your story isn't a story at all. It is true, that did happen. :grin:

[Rubber Robin]

Some things never change! 20+ years ago when I used to regularly fish the Kalama, I had a friend who got his tires slashed!

He had an Oregon license plate and we always thought that it was locals that did not like out of staters!

That area has always had that reputation ever since I have been steelheading! :mad:

[ragjr]

I have to agree with fishbait. the middle east does not beleve in jails, you get cought steeling the cut off your right hand for hte first time the second time the other, then what are they going to still with. Cought lying they cut out your toung. ruff place to live, but the crime rate is low.

For the most part everytime I go fishing everyone I meet is willing to help out, net the fish if you dont have one, share how they rig there poles.

Fishing is aboout the only time were strangers can meet and get along and help each other out.

[Bait O' Eggs]

About 20 years ago I found a rod in the river after a drift boat flipped over and they lost a ton of gear. After they rounded up what they could find and left, I poked around and found the rod on the bottom of the river. It had a name painted on it as it was a custom Loomis. I didnt know the guy whos name was on it, and as far as I was concerned, finders keepers was the rule of the day since I was about high school age. About a year ago I am fishing with a guy I met on ifish. He sees the name on the rod and knows the guy who has his name painted on my rod. He tells his buddy I have his rod, and the guy wants it back. The original rod owners story was somebody busted the window out of his car and stole the rod. He thinks I stole the rod out of his car because I have it. :shocked: :shocked: after thinking about it for a while I gave the rod back to the guy, even though I considered it one of my own.

I dont know if his story is true that he had it stole, which then would make it that the theif loses the rod when Karma caught up with him, I find it on the river bottom and fish it for about 20 years and then return it to him, but his name was on the rod and I gave it back.

I miss that rod, it was sweet.

[Sublime]

sounds like the noontime stoners... <>~~~ :mad:

[live4fishing]

With all the posts to my subject, I to have to say that there are a whole bunch of very nice strangers out there willing to help a fellow fisher, I guess I just went down to the wrong river at the wrong time :depressed: . But damn I just dont see the humor in spoiling someones day like that :mad: . I also agree that I also find myself looking out for other peoples vehicles when Im not down fishing :smile: . Oh, just to chang the subject, My friend was down on the Chehalis river and got a 30# chromer this morning. So again thanks for letting me vent.

[mallard0311]

This has been happening for the last twenty years that I have fished the Kalama, N.fork Lewis and Cowlitz. Primarily people launching with Oregon plates and even worse with Oregon Guide advertising on their truck. When your in a drift boat and take off down the river you are kind of screwed. When I used the sled I would spend a lot of time keeping an eye on my rig by backtrolling in the area or boondogging through the area quite a bit. I have had brake lines cut on trailer, had trailer run into while fishing, but can't blame that on WA.(happens everywhere) I do know some WA. guides that were coming down to the Nehalem and ****** off a lot of people and they had some of the same problems. I think Oregon has more of a trailer theft problem because of lack licensing or title registrations. People overweight don't want to have to pay to register and title their trailer. What we need is an all volunteer trained staff with survelience camera's, big dog or big friends. With all the added pressure temper's flare. Without trying to sound like a vigilante, when I have conflicts they always hit me first.