PDA

View Full Version : Hog lines


Claybear
09-07-2002, 08:07 PM
:shocked: Is it my imagination or are there getting to be more and more rude people on the river. :tongue: I don't mind hoglining but never would I anchor in between the lines. graemlins/1zhelp.gif It makes it to difficult to land fish nor would I tear threw the lines throttle wide open. graemlins/icon_argue.gif Common curtesy has gone out the window. :hoboy:
:cheers: Tight lines. Clay

Fishalot
09-07-2002, 09:37 PM
I think we have a little of both, I have seen people anchor right in the center of hog lines or too close to the upper or lower line graemlins/stupid.gif . Then when they or someone above gets a fish on the brain starts to click :shocked: not always some people take longer then others. I had a guy coming down with a fish on tell me to pull my anchor, this was after he had achored less then a hundred yards above me. Some people just don't use their brain enough.

Fishalot

TideRunner
09-07-2002, 11:26 PM
OK.........soo how much room between lines is 'common sense'? What variable factors can change this and how?

I'm simply curious. graemlins/idea.gif

Fishseeker
09-08-2002, 04:54 AM
Wow glad to see that this problem exists in other places then just Ca..

Personally I like to see minimum of 100 yards.

Reality it ain't gonna happen.

But if you should anchor on top of me once my rode is already set and expect me to pull anchor when you have a fish on you are gonna surely hear some choice words and have to work around my anchor , also I would even hope your fish gets tangled up in my rode line for those who ask for trouble surely deserve to get it.

coyote one
09-08-2002, 05:39 AM
What is the general rule about starting a hog line? If you are the first person in a given area that isn't above or below another hog line, does the next guy who wants to fish right in your imediate zone line up to your boat or is it right that he throws his anchor line where your lure is working? What is the proper protocol in this situation to stay where you are?

crabbait
09-08-2002, 08:06 AM
Protocl has little to do with it. Its about catching fish. Yesterday, we anchored in an area where I had seen a hogline. I was unsure as to exactly how far up or down stream the line had been forming. We were the first boat there (actually, our two boats). Just before the tide change a line formed about 50-70 yards above us, leaving a space directly above us.

We quickly realized that we were sitting where we probably should be fishing and moved up into the slot left above us. Thirty minutes later, 37lb chrome hen!

Sometimes hog lines can be random. Most times the guys are fishing a change in the bottom that holds fish or causes fish to move up a slot, concentrating fish. If you are not sure exactly where the "spot" is then be flexible and adjust.

Fish with 'em, not agin 'em. Some of these old boys know what they are doing and why! :wink:

[ 09-08-2002, 08:08 AM: Message edited by: crabbait ]

FishinMission
09-08-2002, 08:19 AM
If you're not sure where to drop your anchor...one of the most important things to consider before doing so is ..."What will happen if the guy above me hooks a fish...or....What will happen if someone in our boat hooks a fish??"

Most people's biggest "beef" is when someone anchors TOO close...whether it be NEXT to you, or BELOW you.

Take your anchoring situation beyond just parking the boat.....Think about what not only YOU will be faced with, but those around you, if someone hooks a fish!!

SHLEPROCK
09-08-2002, 08:36 AM
Well it is foggy on the river this morning so I've got some time to kill. I think that the size of the fish that people are targeting determines the distance between lines.Two years ago during springer season by sand island the hog lines were so close that most people were horsing their fish in without drifting so I found a different place to fish. The problem with starting hoglines is that unless you have been fishing a well known area regularly then you won't know where the established lines form and may end up with mud on your face graemlins/icon_argue.gif The established lines are usually based on the shape of the rivers bottom and are reused year after year by the people in the know so being the first to form a line can have responsabilities. Well with that said I think I'll go out now and plug into one of those established lines. :grin:

5-Cents
09-08-2002, 09:28 AM
Even if there is a lot of room between lines, when you hook a fish you have to be careful/curteous when landing a fish on the drift. I had a guy the other day that was 200 yards behind our line drop off while landing a fish. He fought, and fought, and fought that fish down river right into our lines anchor lines. He wrapped around mine. :shocked: I was helpful and ran his pole under my line but he should of been watching a little more carefully and motored to the outside! :rolleyes:

Just remember a little common sense goes a long way on the water! :cheers:

Claybear
09-08-2002, 05:45 PM
Ever since I can remember there were places that every body set up as hog lines, If there were to or three boats that's where you set up or you could start your own. Now how far apart? I see it's a good question, especially if you hook a big one. I try not to intrude above or below. If I think I may mess somebody up I won't anchor, Now side by side It used to be bumper buoy to bumper buoy which does not bother me, that's the way I grew up. If I can I try to leave space just to be considerate. Tight line. Clay

Chris Nordling
09-08-2002, 06:07 PM
I think I voted correctly.

Any chance for an "edit" ? I had to re-read the choices several times to figure them out, but I think I got it.

Sorry.

Chris :cool:

bait boy
09-08-2002, 07:22 PM
This area has grown so much that only the oldtimers hoglined and tradition ruled. Now the new folks have NO idea what this means because they see a spot and throw their hook.

These people have no knowledge of traditional practices all they know is that theres fish in that water and they want to catch them.

I know what I know because I actually like to think about what happens if I anchor here. how will it affect my fellow fishers and such. I think I had pretty good instructors but I'm still learning to do it by myself.

Sturgeonbait
09-08-2002, 07:34 PM
I heard a guy saying that there was a guy on a jet ski going through the hog lines doing a salom. That is somthing I overheard. now that would make me mad. :mad:

HOGTIDE
09-08-2002, 08:57 PM
And never, never ,never put a cork on the escape route!!!! Two hoglines set up parallel to each other about 150 yards apart. You are inexperienced and don't want to be close to anyone, so you go halfway between the lines but outside on the ends. Your anchor rope and boat has just effectively shut off the escape corridor for boats drifting out with fish.

These are big fish, hooked in 40-50 feet of water in a swift tidal runoff with a pound of lead down low. They peel line fast and are sometimes unstoppable. Do the geometry refresher and anticipate where those boats are going to go and how much room they'll need to get out into the channnel and drift.

Nanook
09-08-2002, 10:54 PM
Bless you Hogtide. :cool: