Last minute Alvin HELP!

[Fshklr]

Have not run hardware in some years and need advice on lead leader length and Alvin leader length. Hard Tie ( 3 way swivel ) or slider. Plan on usin 8, 10s and 12s for lead. Please point me in the right direction.

[Salmonator]

I'm generally not a plunker but you seem desperate for info graemlins/1zhelp.gif Unlike running K-fish, it seems the guys running wobblers go with the same leader/dropper length. The popular lengths seem to be 45" to 55". Hope this helps if you don't get any other replies... Joe

EDIT: I am partial to running two high quality barrel swivels, one sliding on the mainline and one on the end. You will get less twist out of this setup than you will with a cheap three way.

[ 08-30-2002, 10:28 PM: Message edited by: Salmonator ]

[Small Fry]

I'm no expert but we used spreades today and 5 oz weight. 5 foot leader and lead line. Look for 50 feet of water. Walked the line back as far as you can. 50 to 75 yards

And just sit back and enjoy the day. Most relaxing day fishing I've spent in a long time. graemlins/hearton.gif :sleep:

Good luck. :grin:

[ 08-30-2002, 10:30 PM: Message edited by: Small Fry ]

[Fshklr]

Salmonator,
thanks for the reply. Plan on fishin from a boat, Wa side in 43' of water. Need advice on both lead and alvin leader length, and slider for lead or not. Thanks again, Dan :wink: :grin: :grin:

[Red]

Use 5 feet of weight leader, and 5 feet of lure leader. Run them from a spreader or heavy-duty three-way.

[Fshklr]

Thanks smallfry,
Nice pic in earlier post as well. :cheers: 5 feet on alvin and 5 feet on lead :whazzup: :smile:

[Fshklr]

Thanks Salmonator, smallfry and Red for helping out so late at night! :grin: :grin: :grin: . the info has been noted and I will commence tying a couple for tommorrow. :cheers: Again thank you all> :smile:

[brshooter]

I was running 5 foot leader and 5 foot lead line the first part of the week without much luck. I switched to a 6 foot lead line, keeping the 5 foot leader, and started seeing some action. If you are walking your lure back quite a ways, I would recommend trying a 6 foot lead line.

Good luck.

[k9jeff]

spreder,,, 4-5 foot of lead line,, 4-5 foot of leader, hook alvin on to leader,,, tune to a nice wobble, and put it in about 50ish feet of water......

Good luck,,, im off to St Helens to fish the afternoon,,,,,

[fishboy5]

What do you mean by walking your lure back?

[Small Fry]

You want to have your wobbler back from the boat as far as you can. Pick it up and let line out and repeat.

[Drachir]

"Walking" your lead back, refers to bouncing out the lead to the bottom. Pick it up off the bottom, and free spool a little bit of line each time your lead makes contact with the bottom again. Continue this lifting and letting out more line, until you "Walk" your offering out as far as you want. It is impotant that you hit bottom with each drop of the rod. Also when you put the rod in the holder, be sure your line is tight, with no slack at all. I drop my rod near the holder on the last drop, and have the lead just hit bottom as I place it in the rod holder. This will insure your offering will be at the same length off the bottom, as your dropper is long. I'm not sure if that makes sense? Hope this helps!!

[Fshklr]

Salmonator, Small Fry, Red, brshooter, and k9jeff, Check your private message box! :grin: :cheers:

[Pitch Pocket]

You don't want the Alvin wobbling too fast or too slow. I have Alvins made in different gauges of metal (from the guy on the island) and use the different weights in different current conditions. Light gauge for slow current and heavier for faster current. I believe that one adjustment has caught fish when others sit empty handed.

[garyk]

Just thought I'd chip in that as far was weights, we seldom use more than 3oz.

With tomorrows minus tide we might have to go to four or five ounces, but if it's really rippping and requiring that much weight, we'll likely pull anchor and do something else until it mellows a bit in the two hours before low slack.

Sjp, you mention heavier guage lures. The coolest I've seen were made by a guy called Grizzly Tackle in Cascade Locks (no phone listed last time I looked). He was making heavy ones for the strong currents at Bonneville, using really heavy brass. I purchased one last summer and unfortunately lost it before I could try it.

[Pitch Pocket]

I had a heavy guage stainless steel one that had 6 hash marks on it (one for each fish). Lost it on the snag at the Sandy. I wish I could dive to that spot and reap the bounty.

[FishinMission]

Such diversity here.

Lead ounces have to be determined by the flow, and depth. The most important thing to keep in mind is to use enough lead to keep your set-up on the bottom. Period. Check for the bottom often, because if you're fishing tidal affected water...the flow will change with the tide. You will need to "lead up...or lead down"

We smacked fish using a 6 foot dr
opper and about 4 feet of leader. I like to use a barrel swivel between my lure and the swivel at the end of my main line. Good practice to do that on just about everything.

The bite often moves from shallower water to the deeper as the day progresses.

It was tough watching all the action on the inside Monday morning...but the bite happened where we were (deeper) at about noon. (3)

In addition....if you're fishing in water that requires about 8 oz. or less.... be on the lookout for the "slack biters".

If you see a couple of itty bitty taps on your rod....I'd recommend you pick up the rod right away, and set the hook. You might be surprised
what's on the other end. :shocked:

Also...I don't know that I buy the "Walk it out as far as you can..." routine.

I've seen lots of fish hooked in the last two weeks with the lines being right behind the sea anchors. I've seen more fish lost on hookups that are way the "you know what" out there.

Mark

[ 09-06-2002, 02:19 PM: Message edited by: FishinMission ]