Bankees! We gotta stick together

[Slayer]

To those of you who do not have the privledge to own a fishing boat, know someone who has a fishing boat, or those of you on occassion like to fish from the bank, this is for you.

I see lots of post on this site for those people who fish from boats, and that's great. However there are those of us who do not have that option. A bout 10 report or a colombia report does me no good, even though it atleast help to predict what the smaller rivers might be doing. Now don't get me wrong I have no particular problem with most boaters, it's just that I'm envious. But until the time comes that i have my own boat i will continue to still seek out my prey from the banks!

So what i'm asking of the bankees that participate on this forum is to try and keep reports flowing for those of us who fish in the Portland area rivers. So please, help me out.

Whats' going on? :whazzup:

[O'City Fisherman]

I was thinking the same thing. I unfortunatly lost my ride for the year and I will be doing a ton of bank fishing.

My question is that since the water is so warm were is a good location that will have sholder room to fish?? I was thinking about social security beach but I am not sure if I can get out far enough to get into the fish.

[Fshklr]

I too fish the bank between rides, and tommorrow I have a seat with Dad. But an option that has been working well is a fellow has been curtious enough to bring his kayak out and take our gear into the edge of the hog lines. You have to run approx 28oz. of lead with a light leader to snap off for a hook set, but our hook ups have encreased 200%. This will not work in all areas and you still have to find that happy medium where boater and banker co-exist, but it has worked well for us this week. :wink:

[PapaHog]

Hello, I too fish from the bank and would appreciate all bank fishing reports.

I have been fishing for many years in the fall in the mid coast rivers and Tillomook bay rivers with but a few fish on the bank. I got 4 last fall out of the bobber hole behind the Hospital on the trask but that was it. I will be retiring soon and expect to fish a lot from the bank.

All bank fishing reports will help me and I thank you in advance.

[Matt H.]

I'm a bank fisher as well. I would post my reports, but I got tired of posting "Skunked Again", hehe.

Basically I have been fishing Bradford Island at Bonneville, and occasionally the Sauvie Island Beaches.

For about 10 trips, I have had 1 fish. Big beautiful steelhead, but it was a native, and was released. Up at Bonneville, the fishing is really frustrating because you can see big bright nooks jumping all over, but they refuse to bite. Heck even the sturgeon fishing has been pretty lousy up there.

I have been using several flavors of spin n glows as my bottom rig, and will slide down a rainbow spinner (this is what I got the steelhead on), or coyote spoon as a second rig.

Basically nothing I have tried has seemed to work very well.

I imagine that any bankies that are really catching fish are being very hush hush about it :wink: . Trust me, as soon as I have a good fishing day, I will post all the info about it.

Good luck out there guys.

Matt

[AnglersRental]

I am fortunate to have the boat option, yet I love plunkin off the bank as well... If i Might suggest, how bout asking Jen for a dedicated bank fishing area / discussion on this site? Like "Salty Dogs" or the fly fishing area. I would participate in that forum... Any name ideas??

UG.

[AnglersRental]

perhaps: "Professional Plunkers" ?

UG.

[Wally02]

bankie <---------------

[MasterCaster]

Id like to see a separate forum for us "bankies" it would make it easyer to figure out what reprorts are what and we wouldnt have to drool over all the "boaties" reports lol well I for one would still be doing the droolin anyways. :grin:

Jon :smile: :grin: :smile:

[Fisher16]

I also being stuck fishing off the bank would like to see another forum for bankies also.

Nick :smile:

[Matt H.]

count me in for a bankie forum :wink:

[Get Bent]

Bankie here as well, but I do provide the boat owner's choice of donuts (hint hint) :smile:

[ 08-31-2002, 05:28 PM: Message edited by: Get Bent Tackle ]

[Jennie@ifish]

I hate to see us so split up, but if this keeps going on, you'll get your way.

I love to read the bank stuff, and I'm afraid I'll get to "click" lazy and won't go there.

:depressed:

Jen

[springer4you]

Bankie Sometimes also.

[Gus Orviston]

My vote is for not bankie section,,, why well I do both and even though I just bought a DB and have access to riding in a larger boat I expect to fish from my old haunts the way I have always done.

I have learned alot from the bank posts wrt to fishing for columbia steelhead to be specific. Please don't go away, but declare your reports up front to be that of Bank in origin.

I think one thing that works against bank fishing sharing too much information is that space is limited. If you say they are hot on the Wilson, most of the obvious good locations will be gone, while boaters are moving about more, and that isn't fixed by having another forum IMHO.

I was really bummed when my favortie truck site starting having forum after forum after forum after.... well you get the idea. Now there is a forum for Tire, Engines, Brakes, 99-2002, 90-95, etc.. etc.. Nice for some things, but there are alot of experts that are only looking at a couple specfic forums and less people will see your post that could possible give you a great response. My time is limited and want to one stop shop

my .0000002 cents worth

[O'City Fisherman]

Bankie forum? I bite. I would like to see it but if it is too expensive then I can always shuffel though all the other post.

[ampersat]

sorry guys, but i've gotta buck the trend. jen started an NFR board and ended up starting the world's longest NFR post instead (where is that thing anyway?). i like having everything right here at home. shoot, except for classifieds and the flies board, i spend all my time here (except when i'm reading jennies daily update, of course). moving bankies off to another board just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. let's keep it all right here and filter it with our brains for the info we're looking for. sure, we all end up wading through a lot of bouy 10 reports but they're pretty clearly marked and i just don't bother reading them anymore.

[reelman]

One forum is enough. Many of us bankies also are boat fishermen. Most of the time I prefer bank fishing, but still like reading the boat threads. As to fishing I went 2 evenings after work 4 fish on, 2 landed in 6 hours casting spinners off the bank. Alot of fish going over Bonneville.

[Jman4686]

i bite for bankie

[AnglersRental]

I think that a bank specific forum would encourage more bank information... and when you are looking for something specific it would be nice to not have to sort through all the posts in the general forum to find it. Besides the general forum is becoming too crowded, its hard to keep up with a specific topic or thread. If you are gone for a day or so there are so many new things its hard to keep up with the conversation.

Besides, how hard is it to change forums, takes what? one mouse click? The methods, locations, tackle, and most everything else is different between bank and boat. Im not saying put all boat information only here and all bank information only there, there would obviously be some crossover, but look how well "salty dogs" works of ocean specifc stuff, a bankie specific spot would work just as well.
I spend twice as much of my time in the "salty dogs" area and am very glad it is not incorporated in the general forum. I would like to see the bank fishermen have the same advantage of a spot specific to their and my bank fishing needs.

I would like to see it given a try, I would even volunteer to moderate (subject to Jens approval, of course), the advantages of having a bankie specific forum far outweigh the disadvantages mentioned thus far.

UG.

[Slayer]

I see a lot of talk about seperating forums but little talk of whats going on! I will be at Herman creek tomorrow morning to whats going on there. If its slow i will see whats going on the shores of Drano or go to try and find out what the Wind river is doing. Was on the Skok on Thursday with little luck, and it seems to be slowing for nooks, so silvers shouls start showing up soon. Anyone know if there is anything going on at Eagle creek up by boneville?
As far as the new forum. . . I still think we need to stick to gether as bankees, however I don't believe segregating us from the boatee's is the answer

[poshie]

graemlins/idea.gif Hey Jen....
If you don't want another forum, what if bankies proceed their reports in the subject with a BR for Bankie Reports. I kinda of like
to plow through everything myself.

[happybrew]

I prefer to see all reports on one forum. I'm a bankie on the rivers, and a boater or a bankie on the lakes. Fishing is fishing! I enjoy reading boating reports. I enjoy reading bank reports. Why have to click to different forums? All information is useful.

happybrew

[Fish-n-Fever]

I also like the idea of a seperate bankie forum. I belive it would encourage more bankies to give reports.
Ron

[lor]

I'm a bankie, like my father before me, and his father. I've been bank fishing all my life.

I would welcome a forum that gave reports
from a bank fishermans point of view.

I cut my teeth in Oregon fishing the Siletz, Alsea, and the south fork of the santiam.

In my opinion, excellent rivers with lots of bank access.

[Matt H.]

Thats a great idea =).

Matt

[Jennie@ifish]

ANOTHER FORUM?
we've got so many, and I lose track of all that info!
OK, if there are at least 20 people who want a separate forum for bankies, let's hear it.
If not, I'd prefer to see them posted here... I am bankie at heart.
graemlins/hearton.gif
Jen

[PapaHog]

If I get to vote I would vote for a bankie section but could live with BANKIE REPORTS on the main ifish page.

I have a boat but fish mostly from the bank and would apreciate more bank reports.

I read this everyday planning my weekend.

I dont leave home without a ifish plan.

[Born to Fish]

I can see where a separate forum for bank fishing would be advantageous. I personally have a low "pain threshold" for wading through volumns of messages to find the specific info I'm after. The new forum would make it all the easier to find. Also, the concern about this causing a significant loss of space on your favorite spot will apply regardless of where you report your successes; separate forum or not. If that is a real concern then I suspect people will continue to not report and keep their "honey holes" to themselves.

[ampersat]

sorry, gang, but i've still gotta go with keeping it all here. long many years ago, there was a trip trader board here - you take me fishing here, i'll take you fishing there. can't find it? that's because it's gone. now folks post open seat requests on the main board. jennie even went so far as to give fly folks their own board. they use it but it doesn't get a ton of traffic.

[ultralight]

Another vote for a separate section for the bank anglers.

As a fly fisherman and bank fisher, I have very different needs than the anglers who fish from a boat. I often find many fishing threads irrelevant to my fishing methods and feel left out sometimes, so it would be a huge step in the positive direction for me to be able to feel included and participate more with members who fish in similar environments as I do. It's discouraging to see so few bank fishing discussions, and also to see them get drowned out in a sea of boaters' posts.

I feel that once there is a bank fishing section, it will attract quite a following. If there isn't a significant interest once it's created, then I would not mind if it gets eliminated.

[ 09-01-2002, 09:02 AM: Message edited by: ultralight ]

[RL]

I'm a bankie also, except for those days when I'm fortunate enough to grab an empty seat with a boatee. I've learned a lot from the posts on this forum, both from bankies and boatees, and would prefer that it remain one forum.
Perhaps giving bank fishing reports some special designation would help.

[kampy]

Keep everything here. I do both from time to time and try to read everything I can stick an eye ball on. Splitting of will seperate us to much. But now that I think of it , hey Jen, can we start one for boats 12' and under cuz we can't go where all them big boats go. graemlins/idea.gif :wink: :grin: :grin:

[AnglersRental]

For all those who advocate having NOT having a seperate bankie forum, please explain someting to me.

Myself and several others have listed several real advantages of having a seperate bank fishing forum. As near as I can tell no one opposed to a seperate forum has listed any disadvantages other than being to lazy to make an extra mouse click.

Please list some real reasons why you have taken the position against a bank specific forum, among the questions I would ask are:

1) What is it going to hurt? All the information and topics will still be there, right? Probably even more people will participate in the discussion, resulting in better information for everyone, right?

2) Why not give it a try? No one will force anyone to participate in the new forum. If it turns out most people still prefer the general forum, great. The bankie forum will die from apithy. We will never know unless Jen, in her great wisdom, lets us give it a try.

I am betting that a bank specific forum will be one of the most popular on this site, which encourages participation, which benefits all.

Look at the general forum on any particular day. As it stands right now a dedicated bank fisherman, seeing Ifish.net for the very first time, would have trouble finding much of relevence right off the bat..... 90% or more of the topics in the general forum do not apply to his or her fishing habits. Sure its interesting, but there are lots of other interesting things to do on the net, and why would that person (a potentially valuable new user and great resource to everyone here) want to participate in something that is ONLY 10% relevent?

UG.

[First Bite]

I'm a bank maggot. I mean that in a good way. There are a lot of positive things about fishing from the bank. Hiking into a remote location and fishing undisturbed water is one. Also the two Hot Tamale Shows that I did were from the bank so for those that don't have access to a boat there is a lot of upper river access that is available.

Mark

[boater]

there is getting to be to many forums here and alot of double posts, i say put it all on the general forum board or make some rules as to what gets posted where, if a new guy came in here and was a saltwater fisherman he would click on the salty dogs forum and miss alot of saltwater reports that are posted on the general board, wouldnt it be simpler to go back to the way it used to be and just click on the topic you want to read and read it ?, i think so.

[Silverado]

Hi my name is Ron... and I'm a bankie. :grin:
I have mixed views. I like the idea of a bankie forum, so people will be more willing to post reports and items of interest to us bankies.
When a boater says to use a 8' leader with a 5' dropper, I think yeah right, how am I gonna cast that 120 feet with an 8' ugly stick.

However I would hate to see the main board become so steamlined that it looses the entertainment value, it now has.

[Sturgeonbait]

They have been nailing Steelhead on the lewis at the Island ramp on the bank and, by boat.
:cool:

But I hve yet to catch a Steelhead :depressed:

[Fishin Magician]

Mark never ever catches any fish off the bank............ :grin: :wink: :grin: :wink:

[AnglersRental]

Want to guess how many of the last 500 topics in the general forum were bankie specific???

32.... thats what...... 6%????

(who votes that im really bored today?? <g>)

UG.

[ko]

I'm in for the bankie forum.

[OneLastCast]

Uglygreen, I'm glad you joined up to increase this sites popularity.

I have never fished the Willamette and may not ever, but during springer season the posts on this board regarding the Willamette make up about 60% of all posting. Should we have a seperate board for the Willamette? I would probably not read it and would therefore miss the continuing saga of BOE and C&E and the rest of that gang.

I have never fished the Columbia above Astoria, and always assumed that Frenchman's bar was a place you said"oui" to get a drink. Should they have a seperate board? I would probably not read it and therefore miss the tales of the fishing prowess of Fishing Mission and ******.

Right now the majority fish being targeted are being accessed by boat. Come fall and winter more bank fishing reports come in from the coastal rivers, Clackamas, Eagle Creek, Santiam etc.

I would vote we keep it to one site. I fish both by bank and by boat and still like to hear the tips from all sides and what works in all kinds of waters giving me more options to try. I have fished out of a drift boat approximately 5 times but I have learned how to apply some of their techniques as posted on this board to my approach to bank fishing to help me get into fish.

Uglygreen I think you should sit on your hands for awhile and see how this boards postings change with the seasons. As the coming rains draw the fish into the rivers then you can start plotting on where you can find them with bank access. The more information you have to process the more accurate you can make your plans to hammer that next fish.

Tight lines
OneLastCast

[ 09-01-2002, 07:26 PM: Message edited by: OneLastCast ]

[Jennie@ifish]

Reasons why not:

People miss a lot of information.

As the winter rolls around, there will be many bank angling posts here, and we'll all miss a lot.

This is the ifish community. We all fish.

Several boards who I have seen that have separated their forums into many smaller forums report lost interest as a big community.

There are valid reasons to do it, also, and I'm not saying no yet.

I am considering all options at this point, but I am hesitant, as I have seen many of my new forums get less and less interest.

Plus, every time I add a new forum, it's new work. I'm up to my ears in work already. :smile:

Jen

[Matt H.]

Edit: Deleted original post because I didnt see Jennies post =).

Jennie,

If its too much of a burden for you, I can fully understand that. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say that we all appreciate all the hard work you have put into Ifish =).

I'm sure we will live without a Bankee Forum :wink: .

Matt

[ 09-01-2002, 08:07 PM: Message edited by: Matt H. ]

[Keta]

OneLast,
The majority of posts are NE Oregon posts but I still read them.

I like this Row V Wade thread. :smile:

If you "Bankees" would take a shower you wouldn't "stick together" as bad :grin:

I would rather fish from a boat but I fish any way I can. Sometime I have to get out to make a drift right. But it is hard to catch kokanee from shore and I would rather catch bass :shocked: (OH NO!!!) than fight for a spot in a crowd of flossers (not all boat impared fishermen are snagers but there are plenty of them down here on the upper Rogue :mad: ).

If you don't have the money for a boat try to catch a "open seat". I have and enjoyed very good times fishing with some great IFISH members ( :smile: thanks again guys :smile: ).

I have had at least one boat and up to four at once since I was 12 when I built a 8' plywood box for duck hunting in the marsh behind my grandfathers house (now a mill and BiMart).

Boats are important to my life. I currently only have a 14' Smokercraft john boat with a 79' 35 horse and a Old Town canoe but they are adequate and I only have a bit over $1000 in them.

My Dream Boat (http://www.boattraderonline.com/addetail.html?1728473)

[Tilla]

I like it all as one. I am not sure that there would be that much information passed on to a place everyone can walk to ie Wind River! :shocked:
I fish both ways, I will hike for miles, down canyons etc. But I appreciate a boat fishery also.

[MasterCaster]

Jennie you say.....

"Reasons why not:

People miss a lot of information.

As the winter rolls around, there will be many bank angling posts here, and we'll all miss a lot."

Why??? All anyone would have to do is click and read just like on any of the forums. I read all of them with the exception of the fly fishing one because I have no interest in it. I know for a fact that I would post more reports if there were another forum for us "bankies". It seems like when ever people post bank reports they get drowned out by other reports. I dont think its about seperation between bankies and boaters I think it would just make things alot easier to keep track of. I also think it would encourage more "bankies" to post reports.

Just my .02

Jon :smile: :grin: :smile:

[AnglersRental]

I read both the "salty dogs" and the "ifish community" on a regular basis without any trouble, I fail to see whats so hard (admittedly besides the extra work for our wonderful web master), about reading two forums. While when looking for specific information in the genral forum it is can be hard. The month of August generated what? 29 or 30 pages with around 40 topics each page? It would be so much easier to be able to go to a specific area when looking for specific information or advice.

That, I believe, far outweighs the small disadvantagee of an extra mouse click or two for us users. By the way, I have read Ifish for far longer than I have been a member, I have seen the board grow and progress. I didnt have a computer for access for the longest time. Not allowed at work, and no computer at home.

Based on the "against" comments perhaps Jen should eliminate "salty dogs" and "flies and lies" and make everyone use the general forum? Then we could all hold hands and sing kum-bay-aah (sp?). Wouldn't that feel good?

The utility of this web site is more than just entertainment, I have learned a lot here, new methods and locations etc... I just wonder how much I have missed???

UG.

PS: One Last Cast - who said anything about a seperate board? I think we are only talking about an additional forum on this board. The only way you would miss anything is if your left click mouse finger is broken. Also, the reason why I joined Ifish has little to do with my opinion on this subject. Why is that relevent to the discussion?

[ 09-01-2002, 10:30 PM: Message edited by: Uglygreen ]

[HOGTIDE]

Some of us are boaters...but we are ALL bankies. Why complicate a simple format?Currently, I key in on Columbia boater reports, but, by late September I will be scanning for tributary bank fishing info. :smile:

[RussW]

Greetings one and all. I am new to ifish, and don't own a boat! (yet)

My wife and I love to fish, but when we do so just as a duo, for now, it's gonna have to be from the bank!

I'm still trying to figure out how to use ifish, so I just hope we can all share information to the finding, enticing and catching of NW FISH, whether itis fromthe bank or a boat!

Blessings to all...

RussW

[Thumper]

Most of us are lazy. Especially me. I used to enjoy the posts from the salt water guys/gals and the occasional flyfishing posts. But being lazy I just click on this forum 99% of the time and thus miss all that good stuff. I quit reading one of the other boards when the owner split up his main forum into so many pieces that it became a chore (and a bore) to read it. I hope Jennie ends up with a single forum some day again.

[Hummingbird]

I also enjoy ifish as a common board of one stop shopping.
I do read the other boards like salty dogs and the panfish at times as well as the flyfishing board on occasion. I think that is enough for 1 site to offer. It is split up pretty good.Us bank fisherman also get invites to open seats at times with the boaters ont his board and ,I personally think that is a plus. Sure there are different techs to boat fishing and bank fishing, but that makes it more interesting.
I'm also sure Jennie is overwhelmed by all her work and I think she desrves an Extra Big Hand for keeping this site together. There isn't as much bickering there was in the past either. A big thanks to Jennie and the Moderators too boot.
Now what Big Tree with the big rock is that 55 lb. Chinook waiting for me at. :grin: Thanks again Jennie ,Pete Pilar and all the rest that keep ifish together. Tight Lines, Tom