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Killertraylor
08-13-2002, 09:19 AM
I bought a brand new Rogue BB796C Backbouncer a few weeks ago and promptly broke the tip off of it right at the base of the tip eye on the first fish it cought this last weekend. Of course Rogue will repair it, but they want me to send $20 with the rod (some lifetime warranty....) and then play the waiting game to get it back in the middle of Buoy 10 season. I thought I'd just get another tip and glue it on - I got one yesterday at FMS and they even glued it on for me, but it came off last night with the slightest pressure while I was removing the glue residue. I have a similar problem with a Loomis rod - I glued a tip on it about a month ago using epoxy and it is turning on me. FMS offered to glue them both back on for free, and they are using some type of glue stick that is designed for gluing rod tips - did they just not get enough glue on the first time? Is there a better glue to use? I'm going to take them in today and give them another shot, but if they don't hold, I'd like to know if anyone has found a glue that holds better. FYI, FMS was out of the glue bar they normally sell for this.

NWRedside
08-13-2002, 09:44 AM
Make sure that the tip is very tight fitting. If for some reason you can't find the exact size, you can always build it up using a small piece of masking tape around the blank. I wouldn't suggest doing that as it isn't ideal, but if you had to it will work. As far as glueing it, I've used the glue that you have to melt as well as super glue. Most of my rods I've used super glue and I've yet to have a tip come loose. However, most people I beleive use the other glue. hope that helps.

Lured In
08-13-2002, 10:11 AM
Joe if you do decide to glue it, be sure to 'rough up' the blank lightly with a very fine sand paper (150 grit or lighter). This will remove a little of the finish on the blank and help the adhesive to stick better. Also, as mentioned above, try to get one that fits as close as possible.

I have repaired a few rod tips and all have held great. The action and sensitivity was decreased though. This is especially noticable with any rod you are going to drift fish with. Boat rods and such will not suffer much from loosing a inch or so off the blank. If I were you, I would just send it in and get your new one.

Ken Drifter
08-13-2002, 10:15 AM
Killertraylor,
I agree with the first guy, I have fixed and built a few rods in my time. Super glue will hold for a very long time. It is important to get a good tight fit on the new tip, if its a little loose I would carefully sand down the rod tip to get a better fit. If I end up having to sand the tip, I coat it with a small amount of super glue first about an 1/8 down beyond the sanded area, let it dry, then lightly sand the tip until the new tip will fit real tight. My two cents...
Ken Drifter

Killertraylor
08-13-2002, 10:23 AM
Thanks guys. Those are both excellent suggestions. I'll have FMS glue them back on today and if it doesn't work, I'll try superglue. The tips are tight fitting - I don't think there's room for masking tape - but I seem to remember using masking tape on the butt of my flyrod when I built it to get the cork to fit tight.
I'll probably send the rod back after buoy 10 season - I'll see how it fishes compared to the other one I have and decide whether it's worth replacing. I didn't get a good vibe from Rogue when I called them - it was kind of like that guy at the Lamiglass repair counter that tries to make you feel like an inexperienced idiot every time you bring a broken rod in. Lamiglass has almost always replaced them for me, but not before I get a good toungue lashing from that guy about why all the anchovie and herring scales on the cork somehow contributed to the tip breaking.... :whazzup:

Bait O' Eggs
08-13-2002, 10:37 AM
If you want the rod tip to stay on the rod and never come off I recommend the following.

Use either a quality hot melt glue or 1 minute epoxy and glue the tip on the rod. Then break off the rod right where it goes in the tip and the tip will never come off that piece of rod again. :wink:

Stew
08-13-2002, 10:51 AM
Yep I use Super glue also....only thing is you better get it right the first time graemlins/1zhelp.gif

[ 08-13-2002, 10:52 AM: Message edited by: Shane S ]

Miss B Haven
08-13-2002, 11:04 AM
I'm in the superglue club. The last rod tip I tried the resin tube on was years ago. The tip fit tight and it was like it was pushing the resin down the rod and up into the tip (it's thick). It didn't seem to leave anything tween the two.
After about three trys I gave up, sanded a little to get it clean and used super glue (no thread wrap). That was at least ten years ago and I'm still fishing with that rod and same eye.

ampersat
08-13-2002, 11:34 AM
i've had good luck using a hot glue stick. using a lighter or other source of flame, heat up the replacement tip (careful, if you're doing it right the whole thing gets hot). once properly heated, shove it into the glue stick scooping the glue material into the tip. if necessary, apply a little more heat and then stick it on the end of the rod. make sure it's lined up and then let it cool. haven't lost one yet replaced this way.

Killertraylor
08-13-2002, 01:28 PM
BOE - I'm sure that eating smoked fish off that GALVANIZED mesh hasn't done any harm.... :rolleyes: