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CAGEY
07-24-2002, 08:20 PM
Tue was sloppy and not much fun. We bounced around for about 6 hours and managed to boat two nice chinooks. We released a few silvers and had several get loose. Many bites but they just ate the herring.

Wed the water was much nicer. We boated a chinook and a nice silver. We released about 10 silvers with a fin and had a zillion bites. We also caught two sharks. One looked to be about 5 feet long and we never saw the other one. Lost gear to both of them. Some boats were having very good luck and others (ours) were not. Talked to BullHead and *********. Bullhead said they limited out i think.

Lots of fish out there. Depth is critical i think.

[ 07-24-2002, 08:21 PM: Message edited by: CAGEY ]

Pete
07-24-2002, 08:27 PM
Depth is critical? What depth were you fishing? Or are you referring to bottom depth? I did well last week at about 60 feet.

bullhead
07-24-2002, 09:11 PM
As Cagey mentioned we did get our limit. :grin:
We fished in 190-200' of water just north of Twin. We were nailing Chinook at 12 pulls with a Deep Six Diver and Les Davis 0 dodger and plug cut herring. This is two trips in a row at that depth....no need to go deeper in my opinion. They're on top. :wink:

We ran 18" of leader to the plug cut herring. My friend used the same set up, but instead of a straight plug cut, he used a bright green hoochie, with a plug cut herring snugged up against it. The herring still had a quick roll to it.

We both had the same amount of hits, but he came away with 26 and 17 lb. nooks. I had a 20 lb. nook and an 8 lb. silver.

We started fishing at 8:00 and were limited by 10:00 with lots of missed fish and short strikes. We also were visited many times by blue sharks, one of which had to go 12'. It was the biggest blue I've seen out there. graemlins/eek13.gif

He actually tore the tail end of my 20 pounder off as we were putting it in the net. We had doubled up with two nooks on. We got my friends in the boat, but as we were about to net mine we could see that shark circling beneath my fish. At that point I knew, unless we got it in the net quickly, it was "game over". I got him up and horsed him to the net. Right as we were netting it, the shark took out the rear end of the fish. Luckily, we still had the fish netted and brought it in tail-less and all. It was quite thrilling! :shocked:

Anyway, my recommendation is to fish on top with divers, dodgers and plug cut at 12 pulls.

I hear the ocean is supposed to be kicking up again starting tomorrow, so be careful and good luck if you do get out. IF it is fishable on Friday, I will be heading down to try and get out early.

Take care......

[ 07-24-2002, 09:15 PM: Message edited by: bullhead ]

ZaQ
07-24-2002, 09:52 PM
Awesome story about the shark. I would love for something like that to happen to me. A 12 footer? AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shocked:

CAGEY
07-25-2002, 08:48 AM
Pete, yes i mean the depth is critical. If you dont get your herring to the right depth it will be a long day and not many fish. We were marking fish at the 100 plus level and thats the depth we were trying to fish. We were not using divers so we came up short. We tried all different depths and just could not get into them. I saw people using divers, flashers, you name it and they all seemed to be catching fish. It just was not our day.

Killertraylor
07-25-2002, 01:05 PM
Angle this - did you eat that shark? I was just wondering - with all of them around, I'd think someone might even try catching some to eat. I used to fish for them at night on long-range tuna trips - I never landed one, even on Tuna gear with steel leaders - they are amazing fighters - I'm wondering whether they are any good eating.

TheRogue
07-25-2002, 02:05 PM
Blue sharks????

Ummmmm, nummy in the tummy, as my daughter would say!!!!

corrirod
07-25-2002, 02:17 PM
Angle,

Sorry I didn't hang around for Wednesday fishing but my father-in-law was ancious to get home. Of course once we got home I convinced(well, actually just forcefully drug) him to go Tuna fishing. I would really like to go target some of those big blues. I've heard they are tasty as long as you bleed and gut them immediately. Right now I don't think the wife will let me bring home any more salmon but I might convince her to let me bring home some shark!

Maybe we can hook up again some other day.

bullhead
07-25-2002, 10:42 PM
Angle,

It ws nice meeting you the other day. Yeah, we lost several leaders to those blasted sharks, but the chinooks were right on top. Each time we'd get by a shark we'd pick up an motor away from them for a ways and let'em back out. It looks like the ocean may be okay tomorrow and I may head down, but I can't leave here till around 9 or so in the morning. I'll call down to see what the winds doin' but it looks like it may be decent for a late morning/early afternoon outing....I'll let you know how I do if I go.

AngleThis
07-26-2002, 12:51 AM
We were out there too with Cagey and Bullhead. I can verify that there were a LOT of blue sharks on the surface. Pretty much, that is all we hooked into when fishing shallow...My buddy must have had a dozen leaders bit off. At one point, I droped a new bait in, and a 7-8 footer came right up next to the boat and tried several times to take it. I'd wait until I thought he was gone, and the second the bait hit the water, he was back after it. I have some experience diving with blues...they are fast and aggressive, and if one bites you, the anticoagulant on his teeth will make you bleed like a stuck pig... ie the dinner bell gets rung. I remember thinking "this would NOT be a good place for a swim".

Anyway, after a few bite offs and putting one manageable sized one in the boat (extra head bonks for you, dude), I fished deeper...around 60'. Limited on Silvers, one 28 one 24, and Tim got one 28 also (his first ocean salmon). But we never did find the Chiook..???

I remember looking at the fish finder, seeing BIG fish at the surface (sharks) small ones at around 20ft (coho) and then medium sized fish deeper (chinook), or at least that is what appeared to be happening.

Ocean crabbing was good; the traps were loaded although most were short. We did manage exactly one limit from two traps, and four of them were bigger than my crab gauge.

Good working the radio with you guys... one big happy ifish family. Looks like that will be it for ocean fishing until next week at least...the winds are returning and with pretty big swells also, I'll be on the river this weekend.

Adrianna,...Out

Miss B Haven
07-26-2002, 12:59 AM
Just ZaQ - I'm really shocked. You really would like to get your tail bit off by a 12 foot shark???
(just kiddin - musta been pretty exciting - NOT a good time to be testing your life jacket huh? - Mel on Miss B Haven

Originally posted by Just ZaQ:
Awesome story about the shark. I would love for something like that to happen to me. A 12 footer? AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shocked: <font size="2" face="verdana,arial,helv">

Deepslayer
07-26-2002, 07:51 AM
We used to catch big blues and makos out of San Diego when I lived there. The makos were definitely the tastiest! When we boated the blues the deckhand would immediately gut them and throw them overboard roped off for about five minutes. this would flush the urea out of their insides, so they didn't taste bad. They put up a fantastic fight and barbacue real well. I always carry a steel leader in my tackle box hoping I will run into some in Oregon.
,Ed

OneLastCast
07-26-2002, 08:24 AM
What is the secret for cooking those blues. I caught one last year and the wife pan cooked it and it was a little soft. The next night I bbq-d it and it was really bad. Later someone told me I cooked it to long. Any tips from shark chefs?

OneLastCast

Salmonator
07-26-2002, 09:18 AM
OLC, that was our same experience when we tried it years ago. Maybe the immediate gutting and flushing may have something to do with meat texture also?

Deepslayer
07-26-2002, 09:53 AM
The wife always marinated it for me in a terriyaki type marinade for about a half an hour at room temperature. I then barbecued it for about four minutes on each side. It should still be uncooked in the middle as it continues cooking after you take it off the barbecue. If you don't flush it immediately I personally wouldn't keep it. It tastes kind of like ammonia/urine.
Ed

chuck 'n' duck
07-26-2002, 11:03 AM
I got to talking to a fellow I met fishing a few years ago, and somehow we got on the subject of smoked fish. He said that the best eating smoked fish was shark. He said that all of his neighbors (to whom he gives fish away) like it better than salmon or sturgeon. I'm not sure what species of shark though.

Something to think about for the next blue that gets the wood shampoo.

CnD

corrirod
07-26-2002, 11:21 AM
The commercial fisherman I talked to about the Blues said it is absolutely critical that you gut and bleed them IMMEDIATELY. He said if it takes you too long to get them bled and gutted you can just toss the meat because it will be no good. With proper care he said the meat is excellent.

AngleThis
07-26-2002, 02:53 PM
I was expecting to find dark oily meat in the blue shark. Originally I bonked it with crab bait potential in mind, as I once speared a 7 footer that was getting too agressive, and the meat was DARK. I was very suprised when I opened this one up and found firm WHITE meat, which resembled sturgeon meat. But I also noticed a lot of brown/red fluid which had seeped out of the meat in the filet bag the next day. I'll try smoking this meat and letcha know how it came out.

AngleThis
07-26-2002, 02:55 PM
I too am thinking about heading back there with my peeler rod and wire leaders for some serious shark fishing. Blues don't jump but they are super fast and don't tire quickly. How I would safely put a big one in my little boat I have not figured out... maybe tie it over the bow or tow it back to shore..???

Dan Christopher
07-26-2002, 10:12 PM
i take it you can keep sharks in oregon waters???if so wire leader here i come..