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NAUTI-NOTIONS
05-29-2002, 01:18 PM
I have the feeling when its a fisherman complaining about a fisherman its going to be taken like a grain of salt. which would instoe the why even bother attuide. if it only made a diffrence. I often fish with kids on board and have to try to explain the actions of others ..

[ 05-29-2002, 01:18 PM: Message edited by: Bumper_Chrome ]

CrazyHorse
05-29-2002, 01:24 PM
I agree with you Bumper_Chrome. If it would make a difference there are alot of jerks out there that need to be turned in.

Fishalot
05-29-2002, 03:31 PM
yelling at them just fuels the fire, so I say the more reports that come in on a boat # the more the chance the person will have to answer for their actions.
How ever I think most people just like to complain and not take action. Or the person comes across the wrong person that has an even worse additude, then someone gets killed or at the least hurt.

Fishalot
If God is for us who can stand against us.
No one !

Fish-n-Fever
05-29-2002, 05:09 PM
I would say that most of the boats on the water carry cameras. Not only write down the numbers,take a picture to show who was driveing the boat. Turn them in and you have done your part even if the law does nothing your conscience will be clear if the next time this moron buzz's a boat and some one is injured or killed.
Ron

Small Fry
05-29-2002, 10:25 PM
I like it 100% say yes turnem in!

Aren' there a couple of Sherrif deputies or Police officers who are members that can give us some advice on what kind of information we need to collect to help make a case????

I know I would be willing to take a day off work to go to court. How about you?

[ 05-29-2002, 11:31 PM: Message edited by: Small Fry ]

wife&3kids
05-30-2002, 12:59 AM
What do you think? Should we take the names of boats and numbers to the marine board of people endangering others? While with my son the other day an upset man (read "idiot on the Willamatte) came within 1 foot of an unsuspecting boat to prove a manly point. I believe we should keep these people accountable. DO YOU?

Lured In
05-30-2002, 08:04 AM
With the new boating certification process, I believe that you will actually have a legitimate, compelling reason to turn them in. Although I do not believe the certification process will actually improve driving, it could become and enforcement point for dealing with "continually" unsafe boaters.

I would say we should also consult with the water enforcement organizations (CG, Clack. Sheriff, etc.) and ask them what, if any, process is in place for identifying these repeat offenders.

On a side note. I live in a great community here in Camas that has tons of children, including my own. The entire neighborhood for miles is 25MPH speed limit. This is not a "cruise" through community. I asked an officer the other day, why don't they do more enforcing of the speed limit? He mentioned they get a lot of calls for speeding and when they do set up traps, guess who the speeders are? According to him, more often than not, it is the same people complaining of the speeding in the area! :shocked:

As mentioned above, you may be surprised who these people are, it might just be you! Keep safe and let's find a good way to deal with this as one bad accident could ruin it for all of us. (Could you imagine a 15MPH speed limit on the Willamette?)

CAGEY
05-30-2002, 08:39 AM
A very interesting post . Like most of you in my opinion the reckless operation of a boat is no different than a vehicle driven in a manner that is likely to cause physical injury or property damage. By all means turn the airheads in but just remember that you will be required to sign a complaint if you want something done about it. The officer must see the violation in order to cite. They can however and should at least respond and attempt to catch these people who are a danger to others. It's just to bad that the enforcement officers cannot be on the rivers and lakes in full force. They are spread pretty thin and this makes it easy for the bad attitudes and the careless acts to happen without much fear of getting caught. Use that cell phone. Get a boat number and a good description of the boat and the driver, make note of the time and the location. They are going to ask you for all of that. Happy fishing.

mike5097
05-30-2002, 09:24 AM
http://www.boatoregon.com/JavaChores/TipPage.htm

fishonksm
05-30-2002, 03:24 PM
In case most of you were wondering what your responsibilites are as a boater here is a link and some points to let you know.

http://www.uscgboating.org/reg/reg_fr_SafetyTips1.asp#TOP

Operator's Responsibilites
Your water fun depends on you, your equipment and other people who, like yourself, enjoy spending leisure time on, in or near the water. Let's take a look at your responsibilities:

1.Make sure the boat is in top operating condition and that there are no tripping hazards.

2.The boat should be free of fire hazards and have clean bilges.

3.Safety equipment, required by law, is on board, maintained in good condition, and you know how to properly use these devices.

4.File a float plan with a relative or friend.

5.Have a complete knowledge of the operation and handling characteristics of your boat.

6.Know your position and know where you are going.

7.Maintain a safe speed at all times to avoid collision.

8.Keep an eye out for changing weather conditions, and act accordingly.

9.Know and practice the Rules of the Road (Navigational Rules).

10.Know and obey Federal and state regulations and waterway markers.

11.Maintain a clear, unobstructed view forward at all times. "Scan" the water back and forth; avoid "tunnel" vision. Most boating collisions are caused by inattention.

IMO:
We all should have a copy of the boating regs in our boats. The OR. boater cards won't make boating or anyone safer. You need to watch out for your self and others. The only thing I can see good about the OR. boater cards is it might make every one aware of the "rules of the road" when their out boating.