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fishon
04-22-2002, 11:17 AM
7,753 salmon over the dam on 4/21/2002 maybe its gonna start getting better. I sure hope so.

King Fisher
04-22-2002, 11:32 AM
I talked with Bonneville and they are supposed to lower flow and spills by a huge margain by May. If this happens and :grin: and fish #s get high, no one will be going to work. :cool: Pray Hard!!!

Mojo
04-22-2002, 11:39 AM
Hey, let a few through. :wink: The springer season opened in Idaho this weekend, and so far we've only had around 200 fish over Lower Granite. :hoboy: However, I see things are picking up, and I do have an Oregon License...so if I can get the time off from work I'll be fishing with you all next Monday through Wednesday.

Rubber Robin
04-22-2002, 03:02 PM
That's 7,753 that swam by us. We fished Bonneville hard on Sunday and saw about 5-6 fish caught. They were all caught by the bankies. Not one fish was caught by a boat that we saw.

Water was running hard with a lot of color! :depressed:

Fish Hunter
04-22-2002, 03:30 PM
Mojo, things are looking good for you. Most folks are not catching during this high water. Enjoy!

Mojo
04-22-2002, 03:34 PM
When things start happening here, I'll let you know. Maybe F-4.5 at Orofino :grin: ? I always like good company on the river. I know the Clearwater pretty well, and don't mind sharing. It might cost you some pointers about fishing Buoy 10 in August though.

fish_on
04-22-2002, 03:38 PM
The jack counts are still real low a sign that next year is not looking good. Jack counts need to be 10% of the run. If you look back in 2000 jack counts were real high, and the following year was real good, last year a little lower, this year it is not even 1%. Gettem now next year is looking bad.

lovetofish
04-22-2002, 06:27 PM
Re: jack counts. Yes fish_on, I think you're right. But, when I look at the stats of last year's run, it appears that the jacks lag behind the adults somewhat. The jack count in 2001 ended up very high, but early in the run it was a low fraction of the total, then it caught up.

Hopefully that's what is happening again.

--Steve

TheRogue
04-22-2002, 08:06 PM
I've always understood that Spring Chinook jack counts were nowhere near the reliable indicator that fall chinook jack counts are. If you look back into the historics from Bonneville Dam, I believe this more or less bears out.

Mojo
04-22-2002, 09:00 PM
If you are looking at Idaho Hatchery fish to provide a decent run next year, you got problems. We had a bad water year, and very poor juvenile numbers outgoing. I see a springer drought on the horizon for a year or two.

Pray for good water next year to get our record numbers of babies out.