Magic Diver Syndrome?

[Flatfish]

I know that certain plugs fish well.And certain plugs don't.But do certain divers(hot n tots)out fish others?Definately seen delta divers at B-10 last year that would catch half the fish or more every trip.Never seen,or noticed this with a diver rig though.Anybody seen this?Not just one trip, but time after time?
Thanks.
Mark

[Dan Christopher]

I THINK HOT N TOTS BEAT ALL OTHERS. (NOT BECAUSE I AM SELLING OVER 100 :grin: )BUT BECAUSE OF THE ACTION THEY GIVE YOU ,BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT YOUR ROD AND SEE IF IT IS HITTING BOTTOM,HUNG UP, YOUR GOING TO SLOW -TO FAST,OR OTHERWISE NOT WORKING RIGHT,SHOW ME ANOTHER DIVER THAT WILL DO THAT AND I WILL SAY BUY SOME STOCK IN THAT COMPANY :wink: :wink:

[Salmonator]

The only problem is that if you want to dive more than 15' your tot aint worth the plastic it came in. I like mag tots in 10 feet or less for springers and regulars for steelhead any more than that and I like the assurance of a jumbo jet to get to the bottom...

[Dan Christopher]

I agree 100% :smile: ,I also fish the jet in deep holes but in deep water there is not alot of worries about getting hung up and action or speed. but i wouldnt want to use them in 12ft or less.that is what i was trying to say.if i only got 1 diver and had to give the rest away hands down i would keep the mag tot. :tongue:

[Flatfish]

Thanks for the input fellas.What my specific question is,If I fish steelhead with a Hot n Tot for a diver.Rig 5 rods the same except for the individual plugs being used as a diver(all the same model hot n tot different "serial#s").Does one rig catch the bulk of the fish?
I have flatfish that will catch most of the fish when fished next to an identical plug.Hot shots too.Delta divers at bouy 10.And now,I beleive,I have a hot n tot that will outfish every other rod on the boat.If you clip off the plug (diver)and put it on another rod,then that rod WILL begin to catch the fish.Just wonderind if anybody else has seen this.
Good Luck.
Mark

[Perfect Drift]

Without question, you are correct. Some plugs catch and some don't. I have one Bandit #100 (bass plug)that has well over 250 bass behind it. Take another straight from the package, tune it the same way and I might get several bass on it. Switch back to THE plug and cover the same water and get 6 to 8 fish. Lay them side by side, I can't see any difference but the fish tell me there is. Moral of the story- buy several of the same color, size and try them till you find the ONE. Then make sure you don't lose it. I would go swimming for that little Bandit plug.

[Dan Christopher]

when you are useing a lure to atract fish i say yes some will just out fish others but with a diver that is not used to atract fish thats vary rare, unless they are differant colors,not tuned corectly or run on differant lenth of line or line size.Or if they are a color the fish can see it (is) a atractent lure and tuneing is very inportant. (i think).If they are all exactly the same, on the same size line, distance from the boat,tuned correctly.then i only have one answer (sell it to me)i will give you 2 new ones that have never seen water for it. :grin: what coler is it anyway?is it mediam or a mag tot?when you change it to a nother pole do you take the
hook-line and floats off and put the other plugs on it.just wondering if its the birdie? or spin glow? thats the magnet?

[ 04-23-2002, 12:05 AM: Message edited by: MADWIZERD ]

[Myles]

Do any of you remember the "display" at GI Joes a few years ago, an enclosed box showing the different lures under different light? The guy that put that together was an eye doctor, I fished with him several times and he absolutely swore by it. It would be interesting to try your super diver under different light conditions, black light, colored filters etc.

I have some spinners he made and they outfish anything else I've tried by a wide margin.

my $.02

myles

[Corkie Monster]

Myles

Did this guy write a book called "What Fish See" The book is exactly like what this guy is talking about. Light filteres and the whole 9 yards
:grin:

[Corkie Monster]

While using his theory, Did he catch any fish???? :grin:

[Myles]

Yes he did, although almost everytime we got together we both got skunked. Go figure. Like I said i've caught more fish (coho and steelies) using his homemade spinners than any others. Mepps hired him to design a line of spinners, the SEE-BEST line is what they came up with, although I've never used them. There are so many variables out of your control, water temp, barometer, water level, water color, why not do the little things you can control. Another guy had a "magic" fly, that looked like others he owned, under the light filter his "magic" fly was definately different.

gotta do some work now

myles
:wink:

[TundraIII]

Doesnt really matter if all the poles on my boat are rigged the same, it's the pole next to the kicker that gets the bite! :tongue:

[Flatfish]

It's definately the diver.Of the last 10 steelhead landed in my boat, on my tackle, this diver caught 9 of them.3 others caught 1.All of these divers caught fish befor but the new one is absolutely superior.Whether it was eggs,shrimp,prawns,worms,or rubber worms this individual hot n tot is the real deal.Don't matter which rod it's tied on or corkies/birdies.These all change.The plug(diver)is the only variable.I guess from now on she gets heavy main and much lighter leader.Would hate to lose it now.
Thanks.
Mark

[Myles]

Corkie, that's the guy, Dr. Kolin Kageyama (sp?). He almost exclusively used spinners, mostly after Steelhead. I believe he's moved to CA. I was just thinking that maybe the "magic" plug had something different about it that the human eye can't see. Maybe the bottom of the barrel of paint, different vendor or something. Kolin was very specific about the components he used. Some reflected light very differently under different water conditions.

myles