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[Gizmo Man]

i deleted the contents of this post.

Giz..

[ 04-22-2002, 07:28 PM: Message edited by: Gizmo Man ]

[STGRule]

The easy and legal answer is what is on your punch card. That should also cover what state it belongs to. If you punch it on a WA tag its theirs, if a OR tag its ours. That way there is no room for interpretation.

[ 04-21-2002, 01:44 PM: Message edited by: STGRule ]

[wiser]

Can'o'worms, Giz. That's why I leave the catching at Flotillas to others.
Oh it is also legal to keep fishing until you have landed and tagged two chinook and a steelhead(on streams with three steelhead limit).
I believe that as long as it's a legally caught fish, as defined by rules, it counts. For Flotilla purposes, the fish you catch and tag legally is the fish you weigh and count. Trade up for take home or egg exchanges are outside Flotilla juridiction. If you take first two springers on your rod and agree if it goes off again, the fish goes to someone else, it's their fish for weight in and bragging rights. Wouldn/t bother me, that way.
Each individual angler cooses what state they represent. Do they call themselves an Oreo or Wassie. Shouldn't matter which state issued license. Wassie with non-resident tag is still a Wassie. Otherwise every fish I catch at Wind next Thursday, would be Wassie fish. No sense there.

[ 04-21-2002, 01:53 PM: Message edited by: Wiser? ]

[Gizmo Man]

STG: what about out of state or non resident licenses. If an event is held in one State and you have to buy an out of state license, it will be on that states license, not necessarily from your residency states license.

Maybe who states driver license you hold??? or where your legally live???

OR???

Giz...

[Chukrchaser]

It kind of is a cultural thing-- at least for guided/Sport boat trips. In some areas (ie. Mexico, S.CA) the fish belong to the angler who "lands" the fish -- regardless of a "hook & hand-off" -- mostly because some people just can't catch there own cold. Other areas I have been to (Hawaii and New England), the fish belongs to the "boat" and if you want to take some home-- you pay for it :hoboy:

Personally, I have done a lot of hook and hand -- I have never considered whose fish they were -- 'cause they weren't landed by me-- It is more important to me to see some one else enjoy landing a fish than be too concerned over mine and theirs.

At F4 if there are no rules to cover the situation than let the Sportsman in you do the best for all -- (IGFA would have made you stick to your 2 10's, Bassmasters would have thrown you off the lake for over limit -- or at least made you keep the 2 10's and disqualified everyone else).

If it is truly "your rod" is your rod -- than perhaps the way to handle it is to let the law be reality and put the rod away and enjoy the rest of the trip -- rather than sniveling over whose fish is whose-- graemlins/icon_argue.gif -- It's called FISHING not catching graemlins/idea.gif

[STGRule]

Giz: I guess I was refering to F4 when I said OR and WA. I would guess that if you lived in WA you would have a WA license and so on. If the event is taking place in one state you could either do it by legal residence or have everyone "register" which state they are fishing for before the event. That way you could mix those wassies and oreos on the same boat and still have a "state" winner. Maybe have them put a big red W or O on their foreheads at launch time? :grin:

[crabbait]

On my boat, everybody fishes their "own" rod until a fish is caught. Then one of the non-catchers takes the next fish, etc., until everyone catches a fish then the process is repeated.

Much of the time, I am supplying all the gear anyway so, "Who's rod is it?" is not the question. I just want everybody to have a good time and spend some time fighting a fish. Sometimes we will decide ahead of time who catches the first fish, like when my friend was visiting from Ohio.

In my opinion, you have the right to claim the fish you tagged. Generally, we divide the fish so that everybody gets some unless some of us have fresh fish in the 'fridge already and decline the offer.

For my fishing partners, a good atitude in sharing the bite and sharing the catch means invites for a future trip. It also helps if guests offer to provide lunch, gas money, or help clean up the boat. Not required, but the owner of the boat will remember, trust me. :grin: :grin: :grin:

[Bait O' Eggs]

Its nice that the State or Oregon finally defined the regs recently. He who lands the fish, tags the fish. I wish they would have further defined how long the person landing the fish had to have control of the rod, or limit the amount of time the person hooking the fish could have control of the rod. :depressed: Oh well it is a start.

When a lesser fisherman is with a better fisherman the lesser fisherman gets a chance to take a hand off and say he caught a fish. I guess some people take hand offs and think nothing of it. Some may even take them in a floatilla :depressed: and think nothing of it.

Those who cant or dont know how to catch a fish, need to overcome the catching obstacle one way or another. :hoboy: I will catch my own fish, or go home empty handed, thank you. :grin: Momma didnt raise no welfare boy. :wink:

[CATCH AND EAT]

I never take handoffs. :rolleyes: never give handoffs graemlins/stupid.gif But of course I usually don't have to worry about it until I get to bouy 10 or the ocean. Then who cares. :grin:

As far as claiming you caught a fish that did not go off on your rod. graemlins/berry.gif That's pretty low expecially at a flotilla. Hopefully this will not happen again.

But, then again if I hand a fish off to my kid is it ok? :whazzup: Spooled takes issue of me reeling a fish in before my kid does. So I guess I would lose either way huh. But again, I usually dont have to worry about it. Crow feathers puhhhhha!!!. :wink:

Now, I am not to proud to take a hand off, no sir. But I would certainly give credit to the hander-offer. :grin:

[ 04-22-2002, 07:50 PM: Message edited by: CATCH AND EAT ]

[fishchaser]

Let's see if I can make this as easy as possible for you Geezermo. Say, you and me and Pete were out fishing, and let's say, you have never caught a fish in your life, or you haven't caught a Salmon in 3 years, OK?

Now the first fish caught in the boat is on my pole. I will set the hook and hand it off to you. Because you haven't had the chance to fish or catch a fish. Now you have a fish in the boat.

The next fish hits my rod. I will not hand off that rod, because you have a fish already and Pete has caught lots of fish, so I keep that fish.

Now, say my rod goes off again. I will set the hook and hand that fish off to Pete. This way everyone on the boat has played and caught fish.

Now, everyone is on there own. If my rod goes down I get the fish, and tag out. My rod will still be in the water, giving you and Pete an extra chance to catch a fish.

If my rod goes down again, I would set the hook and give it to you, again, because Pete has caught more fish than you.

We always give that person who has not had the chance to catch fish as much as we do, the chance to take a fish home.

If we only hit one fish, that person who doesn't get the opportunity to fish, will be taking home the fish, because he caught it.

[TheRogue]

Many of the people I fish with are rookies, or very inexperienced. I do all the rigging, baiting, letting the line back, etc. When my rod goes off, I immediately pass it off. I could care less what rod it's hooked on, I mean, they're generally all my rods, and my rigging. As far as I'm concerned, all the skill and bragging rights are in the fight, not the hookup.

Now, if I'm fishing with experienced people, who have their own gear, it's a different story. But, I'll still hand off if I've already got one fish (like that ever happens!! :grin: )

kyle

[Gizmo Man]

I deleted this post...

Giz..

[ 04-22-2002, 07:30 PM: Message edited by: Gizmo Man ]

[husker]

in floatilla event i will not pass off or take a pass off!.....everybody for themselves.....

[CATCH AND EAT]

Okay, here it is boys and girls. At flotillas it is very very simple. It is man against man, woman against woman and kid against kid. Or man/woman man/kid woman/kid and so on........

No hand offs!!!!!!! No take my rod from my holder!!!!!! It is your rod in your holder. Now if you want to trade the lure, who cares.

From now on, fish for yourself and if you take a handoff at least give the credit or just leave the stupid fish in the boat. It just is better if it is the truth. :cheers:

I have edited this post. Sorry if I offended anyone. :cheers: just trying to make a point that handoffs are cool until flotilla time. Then it is a matter of "mano y mano." :wink:

[ 04-22-2002, 07:52 PM: Message edited by: CATCH AND EAT ]

[Jeffhead]

So when you guys all show up in Sekiu it won't matter....my rod, your rod, your mommas rods, it'll be just one fish catchin' frenzie!!!! :cheers: You play mine, I'll play yours (pardon the expression) and we'll all have a good time. :shocked: I'd be willing to bet we could have some back up crews lined up on the shore and get them their limits too!!! :tongue: Giz, C & E, you can pass me your rod anytime my friends!!! :blush:
good luck and tight lines, Jeff :grin: :grin:

[STGRule]

Why? Did I miss something?

[STGRule]

Never mind, I went next door. It appears somebody forgot this was supposed to be for fun. When you do things illegal it ceases to be fun. Remember fun?

[Trick]

I've "party fished" before and I personally don't engage in it very often for fear of tickets.

A little story to share...2 weeks ago I was fishing on sand island with my oldest boy and a freind. Two guys were plunking next to us and asked to borrow my extra rod and cast a weight with no gear into the river to give the appearance of the spot being taken. He wanted to hold it for his son that was coming out to fish later. I did this and 5 minutes later the county mounty boat ran onto the beach and wanted to know who had the extra rod out. I began to sweat bullets and told them it was my rod, but the guys over there were using it. I told them it had only a weight on it and invited them to reel it in, which they did in short order. I asked if that was OK to do and they said it was fine. Big relief.

The moral of the story is, they are watching alot closer than you think. It would be wise to just obey the laws. I hear alot of ripping posts on snaggers breaking the laws, but why is breaking some laws OK and not OK on others? Not saying my stuff doesn't stink, just a moral question.

[husker]

in my boat.....i rig.....give u a pole and .....if your pole goes off...u get it.....or get laughed at for sleeping.....i will pass my pole off to my son .....but now he has 3 fish to my none......so he has to watch for awhile....LOL/.....no i'll still share with him....that way i can net the fish.....nothing worse then a rookie netter......

oh and as for floatilla hand offs......my fish....u watch....

[ 04-22-2002, 12:12 PM: Message edited by: husker ]