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Eric W.
04-04-2002, 01:49 AM
While recently fishing my son (15yrs old) managed to hook himself quite deeply in the pinky finger. We were atleast and hour from medical assitance. I started to help him by clipping the split ring on the rather large Rapala lure he was using. He refused and said "No Dad, I want to use this lure once I remove it". He then on the bank of the John Day, proceded to remove the deeply embeded hook. After clipping it off (the one hook of the treble). He proceded to fish (hook still in hand) then took a break. And with the help of Dr Leatherman, and Dr. Gerber he removed it successfully. I like a proud Papa took pictures of my sons mishap - and his initiation into manhood.

My question is this. Is there a favorite technique that people prefer for removing hooks from people? (ass graemlins/eek13.gif graemlins/eek13.gif graemlins/eek13.gif uming it is catch and release)

Hooked of fishing

SleepGuy

BlueWater
04-04-2002, 02:29 AM
Eric-
First of all your son is a genuine fisherman if he still wanted to fish after that!

If the hook is past the barb but not all the way through again and you want to save the hook the best way I know is to run it he rest of the way out so the barb is exposed. Then crimp the barb and pull it out the way it came in. Otherwise cut the end off and then pull it out. If it is to deep to run it out again it is a trip to the ER unless you are a mannly man. In that case it is a grin and bear it kinda thing.
I have also read that to help with pulling the hook out you can wrap heavy line aroud the bend of the hook and use that to give the hook a good hard pull to remove the hook. Kinda like the string around a loose tooth tied too a slaming door thing. Personally I usually have a some hemostats (sp) that I have used for grabing a hook to pull it out.
On another note was the hook rusty? Hope your son is up on his tetnis booster. Sometimes it is not the wound that gets you it the infection later. :sick:

Eric I am courious. Are you a registered tech.? I am looking for a oncall mabey even full time person. You can e-mail me at lab@snoreweb.com if you are interested. :smile:

BlueWater.

White Willie
04-04-2002, 04:26 AM
Eric email me your phone # I lost it mike {white wille} :smile:

Eric W.
04-04-2002, 06:32 AM
Ouch

Artwo
04-04-2002, 08:10 AM
Eric,
I read somewhere quite a while back that there is a technique were you use a piece of string on the hook a certian way and it will remove the hook very easily, just can't remeber exactly how it works. I've often wanted to relocate this technique for future reference for myself. Maybe someone out there has heard of this and can post it for us.

JK

husker
04-04-2002, 08:20 AM
in order to remove a hook from a finger...tie a loop around the c part of the hook.....press down on the shank of the hook and pull.....the pressing down part allows the barb not to catch on the way back out.....still painful but it works....

Phish_on
04-04-2002, 08:22 AM
Glad to say I don't have much experience in this category. I've never buried one past the barb, and never had to do first aid on one either.

Gotta find some wood to knock ... :hoboy:

Artwo
04-04-2002, 08:48 AM
Just found this on the internet, pretty much explains it all:

10.17 Fishhook Removal

Presentation
The patient has been snagged with a fishhook and arrives with it embedded in his skin.
What to do:

Cleanse the hook and puncture wound with povidone-iodine or another antibiotic solution. Provide tetanus prophylaxis as needed. Most patients will benefit from local infiltration of 1% buffered lidocaine using a 27 gauge needle inserted through the hole created by the fishhook.

For hooks lodged superficially, first try the simple "retrograde" technique. Push the hook back along the entrance pathway while applying gentle downward pressure on the shank (like the downward pressure in the "string" technique below). If the hook does not come out, an 18 gauge needle may be inserted into the puncture hole and used as a miniature scalpel blade. Manipulate the hook into a position so you can cut the bands of connective tissue caught over the barb and release it.

For more deeply imbedded hooks, a more complex technique of "needling" the hook requires somewhat greater skill but also allows you to work on an unstable skin surface such as a finger or ear. Slide a large gauge (#20 or #18) hypodermic needle through the puncture wound alongside the hook. Now blindly slide the needle opening over the barb of the hook and, holding the hook firmly, lock the two together. Now with the barb covered, remove the hook and needle as one unit.

When a single hook is superficially embedded in a stable skin surface such as the back, scalp or arm, a simple way to remove it is by using the "string" technique. Align the shaft of the hook so that it is parallel to skin surface. Press down on the hook with your index finger to disengage the barb. Place a loop of string (fishing line or 1-0 silk) over your wrist and around the hook, and with a quick jerk opposite from the direction the shaft of the hook is running, pop the hook out. When done properly, this procedure is painless and does not require anesthesia. The hook may shoot out in the direction that the string is being pulled, so be careful that no one is standing in the path of the fishhook.

When the hook is deeply embedded, the barbed end of the hook is protruding through the skin, or you are unable to utilize the previous techniques, proceed with the tried and true "push through" maneuver. Locally infiltrate the area with l% buffered lidocaine and then push the point of the hook along with its barb up through the skin. Now with a pin cutter or metal snip, cut off the tip of the hook and remove the shaft or cut off the shaft of the hook and pull the tip through.

If a multifaceted (treble) hook is embedded, cover the free hooks with corks or use a pin cutter or metal snips to remove the free hooks and protect the patient as well as yourself from additional harm. When significant manipulation is anticipated, infiltrate first with 1% buffered lidocaine.

What not to do:
Do not try to remove a multiple hook or a fishing lure with more than one hook without first removing the free hooks or embedding them in a protective material.
Do not attempt to use the "string" technique if the hook is near the patient's eye.
Do not routinely prescribe prophylactic antibiotics. Even hooks that have been contaminated by fish rarely cause secondary infection.

Discussion:
With the string, retrograde and needling techniques, there is no lengthening of the puncture track or creation of an additional puncture wound. The quickest and easiest method for removing a fishhook is the string technique. It is a technique you can use in the field because no special equipment or anesthesia is required, but it is not recommended when the hook is positioned on a skin surface that is likely to move when the string is pulled. This movement will cause the vector of force to change and therefore the barb may not release.

Empire
04-04-2002, 08:52 AM
While fishing at Amacher park (N. Umpqua river) I took a Panther Martin in the cheek, from a guy casting in front of me. Fortunately, his knot failed, leaving the lure dangling like some wicked jewelry. It did not hurt, so I kept fishing until I had my limit. Caught my limit, then went to the hospital. The only part that hurt was the shot to numb it. Hey, I got a free lure out of it!

Corkie Monster
04-04-2002, 09:11 AM
While my cousin and I were bank fishing on the Nestucca at Farmer Creek I felt a slap right behind my right ear. I reached up to see what it was and I felt fishing line and herd the jingle of a spinner. It was my cousins rooster tail inmbeded in the cartledge between my ear lobe and skull. He was attemping an upstream cast and got my ear instead. We tried to pry the lure out with no success. Since we only lived less than a 1/4 mile away we went home. When we got there I showed my uncle and he went to get a pair of side cutters. We tried for about a 1/2 hour to cut the hook but could'nt. There was not enough room to get the cutters in between my ear and skull. After thinking for a minute and tired of having a rooster tail ear ring I went to the freezer and grabed an Ice cube. I held one Ice cube after another on my ear till it was completely numb. I grabed a pair of needle nose, latched on to the spinner and pulled. After hearing cartledge and skin tearing a little bit I was able to remove the hook. If anyone has herd the sound of a hook comming out of your ear, it is a pretty dam loud and disturbing sound. Later I had the honors of Kicking my cousins A**. I was ony 13 and my cousin was 11. :smile:

eats
04-04-2002, 06:40 PM
Two years ago while fishing salmon in Alaska I took a (large) pixie that a silver had spit in that meaty part of the palm right under the thumb. It went deep and hurt like a mf'er. Unfortunately my reflexes to over and without thinking I ripped the thing out along with most of the meat. As we were 45 minutes from Homer by helicopter we decided to limit out before heading back. I would NOT recommend removing hooks this way.

eats

DAB
04-04-2002, 08:17 PM
About three years ago I was sturgeon fishing with gimmie -a- go guide services I was useing Smelt, I had just got done injecting the bait with a big hipodermic needle ( the kind vet's use )I droped the cap to the neddle and I grabed for it and stuck that thing through My thumb ( one side to der uther )Did it hurt Nope Didn't even get an infection. D-m Luky I would say. Now they call me mister careful.--DAB-- Don Bench