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Dan360
09-27-2009, 02:21 PM
I traded a few things to a friend for a fly rod setup. Its an Orvis TLS 4-piece, 9-foot, 8wt rod with 9.5 tip and a Nautilus CCF reel. He basically gave this rod to me because he hurt his shoulder in an accident and can no longer cast a rod :(. He says it was bought last summer and he never got to use it after the accident. I traded him some rifle parts that weren't worth a whole lot, but he seems happy.

1st question: Should I keep this rod out of respect for him?

2nd question: If its okay to sell it, how much would be a fair price?

camA
09-27-2009, 03:03 PM
wow dude your so lucky. nautilus reels and orvis rods are so expensive each. lets see. the reel is around $600 and all orvis rods are around $300-$700 on average. so i think you should keep it no matter what even if it is in your friends honor. allot of people would kill you for either of those two. so yes keep it. or if you do sell it, you could make lots of $$$$. -note the 4 digits-

Trout
09-27-2009, 04:17 PM
Unless money is really tight, I would probably hold on to it for a little while. Selling it a year down the road would probably be easier on the friendship than getting rid of it right away. Depends on the friendship though. :twocents:

MsOutdrs
09-27-2009, 05:36 PM
I'm thinking he thought enough of you to give you some expensive fishing gear rather than sell it himself and get the money. I'd keep it forever.

Doryfisher
09-27-2009, 06:18 PM
I'm thinking he thought enough of you to give you some expensive fishing gear rather than sell it himself and get the money. I'd keep it forever.
:yeahthat:

Dan360
09-27-2009, 06:40 PM
The reason I'm thinking of selling it is that I bet I could get him a decent spey outfit for what I could get for the rod. He is super stuborn and hasn't warmed up to the idea. If I could just get him to try. I know a guy who works at Cabelas in Lacey who had the same shoulder problem and surgery that my friend is going to have to deal with. He can still fish with a spey outfit.

From the responses, I actually really feel guilty for taking the rod. It sounds like its an expensive piece of equipment. The most expensive fly rod I own is a GL3 :)

MsOutdrs
09-27-2009, 07:19 PM
Didn't mean to run a guilt trip on you...just sounds like he really thinks alot of you as a friend.

Dan360
09-27-2009, 07:54 PM
Didn't mean to run a guilt trip on you...just sounds like he really thinks alot of you as a friend.

I think a lot of him as well. I know how much I enjoy fishing and what it would be like if I lost the ability to fish the way that I always could. I don't think his injury is insurmountable by any means. I think he's having some issues on the mental side of things because he has to deal with the fact that he can't do it the way he used to. I'm going to try and get him to loosen up on the spey idea and if he's willing to give it a try, I'll sell the outfit and we'll use the money toward a good spey outfit that won't put so much strain on his shoulder. I'd rather have him as a fishing partner than his rod at this point. You never know though, he might tick me off someday :)

camA
09-27-2009, 08:41 PM
GL3 has nothing on orvis rods. no offense. but thats how good they are. and well worth the price. same with the nautilus reel

Dan360
09-27-2009, 08:56 PM
GL3 has nothing on orvis rods. no offense. but thats how good they are. and well worth the price. same with the nautilus reel

I'm doing some googling and I can't believe how much this stuff sells for! Yikes! I might have to tie a bass bug on this rod and play with it a little bit :) Might as well get a little taste of Heaven, just in case I'm not headed there!

leadeyedbugger
09-27-2009, 09:58 PM
Depends on which TLS rod it is....but i would guess lightly used around 200-300. The Nautilus reel if its the cff is probably 350-400 lightly used.

Trout
09-28-2009, 08:12 AM
I'm doing some googling and I can't believe how much this stuff sells for! Yikes! I might have to tie a bass bug on this rod and play with it a little bit :) Might as well get a little taste of Heaven, just in case I'm not headed there!

Sounds like a plan!

Luni
09-28-2009, 11:44 AM
Yeah, Id be pretty urked if I "gave" a friend that rig and he turned around and sold it.

You should keep it, forever, or pass it on to someone else.

Thats how I work. If I get something free, I give it away to someone else the same way I got it. If I pay for it, I sell it.

hooksetter1
09-28-2009, 11:51 AM
If it would get him back into fishing, I like the idea of selling it to buy him a spey outfit. If you can discretely do it, maybe get him out to a clinic or spey clave so he can see if it's even possible with the injury? If it's working well, surprising him with a spey outfit would be pretty cool in my book.

kilchisfisher
09-28-2009, 06:50 PM
Hold on to it, enjoy it, give him a fish or two caught on it, then let him know some day that if he ever wants to trade it for a Spey outfit or wants it back....

Zugbug66
09-29-2009, 10:49 AM
I own that same rod, but in a 2 piece. It's a great rod and I've used it on many steelies, silvers and chums. Even landed a few smaller kings with it.
It's a fast rod, so if your nymphing with it, use a 9 wt line. I have thrown 350-400g sink tips with it and it handles them ok.
Good luck with your decision.
Wayne

MsOutdrs
09-29-2009, 03:44 PM
Hold on to it, enjoy it, give him a fish or two caught on it, then let him know some day that if he ever wants to trade it for a Spey outfit or wants it back....

I like that..

Dane0001
09-29-2009, 05:26 PM
Two great ideas already posted, either have my vote.

Keep the rod, give your friend a fish caught on it (include a picture of you with the rod and fish). Maybe he will be able to use it again someday.

Sell and buy a spey rod for him. (If this is the path that you are tending toward, you may want to borrow a rod for him to attempt to cast before selling the rod in question :twocents:)

Good luck in your decision!

Dan360
09-29-2009, 06:17 PM
Two great ideas already posted, either have my vote.

Keep the rod, give your friend a fish caught on it (include a picture of you with the rod and fish). Maybe he will be able to use it again someday.

Sell and buy a spey rod for him. (If this is the path that you are tending toward, you may want to borrow a rod for him to attempt to cast before selling the rod in question :twocents:)

Good luck in your decision!

I appreciate the advice. I'm going to keep it and expand my fly fishing to salmon and steelhead, which is something I've been meaning to do. I'll try to be nice to the rod. In the mean time, I'm going to try my best to convince him to go with a spey outfit. If it works out for him, I'll sell the rig and get him a nice setup. Might even be able to use the same reel.

Two Fister
10-01-2009, 12:20 PM
Dan,

That is the perfect rod for chasing near shore salmon in the sound. The spring issue of Salmon and Steelhead Journal had a pretty extensive article on it with lots of good spots to cast from shore. Sounds like a really fun fly fishing fishery.

I have two bad shoulders and neck problems. I can't remember the last time I cast my 8 weight single hand rod for anything other than short nymphing casts. I can fish my spey rods all day long without much trouble. A spey rod will allow your friend to keep fishing as they put a lot less strain on your shoulders.

TF

Dan360
10-02-2009, 08:36 PM
Dan,

That is the perfect rod for chasing near shore salmon in the sound. The spring issue of Salmon and Steelhead Journal had a pretty extensive article on it with lots of good spots to cast from shore. Sounds like a really fun fly fishing fishery.

I have two bad shoulders and neck problems. I can't remember the last time I cast my 8 weight single hand rod for anything other than short nymphing casts. I can fish my spey rods all day long without much trouble. A spey rod will allow your friend to keep fishing as they put a lot less strain on your shoulders.

TF

I'm getting some chum candy ready already :). In the end, I really hope he will reason with me and get into spey casting.