No Luck, and no skils.

[ORFishingNoob]

hey guys, I've been fishing since young, but never really made it a full time hobbie of mine... So this last week, a buddy of mine, and i decided to bring it back... Equipped with the same tackle box as i had when i was 12, we got worms / treble hooks / weights, and bobers and headed to the tualatin (only 2 blocks from my house) We fished 3 days in a row from the boat, jusing worms and spinners... and Nothing, not a bite ! I found this site, read that someone was catching lots of fish from Hagg lake, so took my 14ft valco and gave it a try... 6 hrs later, 3 guys fishing... no fish LOL

Basicly, i'm just looking for some suggestions on A) best area's around tualatin/tigard/portland to fish for Trout / Crape / What ever bites ! My cousin also has a house on the Clackamas, we caught some 5in trout there the other day, after about 3 hours LOL.

B) some tips on some other types of setup's to use...

I've got a great ultra lite pole, which is what i like to use, and a good medium pole as well... besides power bate / trebbles / spinners, thats all i got...

Anyone got some good suggestions, on how to land me some fish, so i can take my mom and bro's out, knowing we have at least a decent shot of catching a fish =)

[Eagleclaw]

light line, single hook, slip weight on main line and powerbait or marshmellow and worms off the bottom and you'll catch fish or try trolling small spoons or needlefish or flasers with a worm on a hook

[B33R]

Welcome to ifish, I suppose this counts as a fishing story,...I'll letcha off easy, others might not...look into the search feature, running an advanced search and only look for posts on the topic you are looking for. You can weed out a lot off topic posts.
My 2 cents on Hagg, lots and lots of trout in this lake check the odfw site for stocking schedules, imo there are so many it doesn't matter if you go after they just stocked it or not, lots of holder overs. Great small mouth action and blue gill. Like said before, slider weight .25 to .5 oz treble hook w/power bait off the bottom. Worm meatballs work good too.

[ORFishingNoob]

Fished for 3 hours this evening on tualatin with my buddy, got a FISH !!! Some 8 in or so squa fish... It hit the power bait, then didn't do anything, i figured it was off, so just let pole sit in water for 5 min, then reeled it up to check, and he just swam up to the water with the hook in his mouth LOL I was STOKED ! No other bites the whole evening... My bad Fishing streak has ended for now !

[shaggyboy]

go back to hagg. use a ford fender 4 foot leader leader size 6-8 hooks run a thierd of a worm straight dont cover the end of the hook. and slow troll youll catch trout.

[MP]

Check this thread out for recent reports on Hagg lake:

http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=249298

[The Pew]

welcome aboard. Here are some suggestions for you to try:

Boat setup-

banana weight (aka mooching) - .5 oz, 1 oz, 1.5 oz
flasher set- I like mack lights but always have a set of hammered baby cowbells out
lures- wedding ring- red or green put worm on the hook, needlefish rainbow trout 1.5", I like about an 18 inch leader from my flashers

That is the standard setup that will catch trout in any lake in oregon. When you put your line out count the pulls (reel to the first eyelit) I start at 17 and go up to 30 in most lakes. After a while you will get a feel for how many pulls to start at based on temp and location. Troll from 1.5-2.5 mph

Locations based on where you said you were at:

Hagg, Prometory (on the Clackamas my spelling may be off), Detroit is the most stocked lake in Oregon but a little farther away

If you just want to catch fish, shad are starting at Clakamette park in Oregon City. They aren't good for eating but make great crab bait and put up a fight on light rods. Search this site and you will find all the setups you need to catch them. 50-100 fish trips are not out of the norm.

Good luck

[billyb1970]

as soon as its snow free you might try a few of the lakes on mt hood, its close enough for a day trip and its beautiful up there, i personally like clear lake and timothy lake, but most important thing is stick with it, you will get the hang of it and figure out how and where to fish each location of your choice, and welcome to ifish, it is a great site with great people

[Raining_Kings]

As others have said, troll at Hagg using a Macks Lite Troll or Luhr Jensen Ford Fender (Fishermans has some free Luhr Jenson brochures on how to rig and fish a troll. At the end of the troll add a Green or Red Wedding ring (use the whole leader it comes with, just tie it on the end of the troll). Put some worm on the wedding ring. Let out a LOT of line, 100' or so (vary this length and try different sinkers attached to the rudder on the troll to vary depth). Troll that set-up 50-100' off shore around the perimeter of the lake and you'll get a fish eventually. You may even catch a lot like we did last Saturday.

I only use Powerbait on hachery trout, so not ideal for Tualatin river, but find for Hagg. Heard it mimics the food the hachery fish get, so that means nothing to wild fish. I'd go with worms in the Tualatin, but have only fished it a couple of times myself, with not much luck.

Best hint? Bring binoculars and do what the guys cathing fish are doing.

[Amp]

You know I have that some problem. Sometimes I go with my Uncle fishing and he says alright this is a good spot and nothing ever happens. I have been fishing since I has 8 or 7 can not remember and we always got to this spot thats hot, everybody else is catching something exept me. What the heck:passout:hey guys, I've been fishing since young, but never really made it a full time hobbie of mine... So this last week, a buddy of mine, and i decided to bring it back... Equipped with the same tackle box as i had when i was 12, we got worms / treble hooks / weights, and bobers and headed to the tualatin (only 2 blocks from my house) We fished 3 days in a row from the boat, jusing worms and spinners... and Nothing, not a bite ! I found this site, read that someone was catching lots of fish from Hagg lake, so took my 14ft valco and gave it a try... 6 hrs later, 3 guys fishing... no fish LOL

Basicly, i'm just looking for some suggestions on A) best area's around tualatin/tigard/portland to fish for Trout / Crape / What ever bites ! My cousin also has a house on the Clackamas, we caught some 5in trout there the other day, after about 3 hours LOL.

B) some tips on some other types of setup's to use...

I've got a great ultra lite pole, which is what i like to use, and a good medium pole as well... besides power bate / trebbles / spinners, thats all i got...

Anyone got some good suggestions, on how to land me some fish, so i can take my mom and bro's out, knowing we have at least a decent shot of catching a fish =)

[ORFishingNoob]

Thanks everyone for the Great Reply's !!! I'm going to print all this LOL and go get some more gear, and try these tech's next time im on hagg (probably in the next week at the latest)

We also go to detroit all the time and camp, i just never thought of bringing my pole... but this summer, its ON ! (also got a ski boat for that lake, tired of renting, so holler if you guys wanna go fish)

We also camp alot neer Ollali lake, and "fish lake" is amazing !!! Never had my pole cause we always backpack in, but last year i saw a guy pull a trout a cast out of there, all huge brown trout !

Thanks again for the info gents ! Fish are in trouble now ~!~

[duckintheblood]

i didn't see it in any of the other posts but i could have missed it. here is another tip for hagg, troll f-3 flatfish or #70 hot shots in frog pattern tipped with a little piece of worm if the plugs ain't swimmin right keep trimin down the worm till it starts swimmin right. This has been a real winner for me up there and I like to troll the scoggins creek arm as well as back and fourth between boat ramp A and the dam.
Good Luck
Dan

[ORFishingNoob]

What is
troll f-3 flatfish or #70 hot shots in frog pattern

I figure some type of lure ?

[Roperguy]

What is
troll f-3 flatfish or #70 hot shots in frog pattern

I figure some type of lure ?

f-3, #70 = size
flatfish, hot shots= lure
frog pattern = color

:D

[duckintheblood]

sorry my bad i should have explained more but yes that is correct
f-3 and 70 are the sizes
flatfish and hot shots are the plugs
adn frog pattern is the color
Dan

[USMCfisher]

Thanks everyone for the Great Reply's !!! I'm going to print all this LOL and go get some more gear, and try these tech's next time im on hagg (probably in the next week at the latest)

We also go to detroit all the time and camp, i just never thought of bringing my pole... but this summer, its ON ! (also got a ski boat for that lake, tired of renting, so holler if you guys wanna go fish)

We also camp alot neer Ollali lake, and "fish lake" is amazing !!! Never had my pole cause we always backpack in, but last year i saw a guy pull a trout a cast out of there, all huge brown trout !

Thanks again for the info gents ! Fish are in trouble now ~!~

I am curently fishing for sturgeon on the columbia river up by troutdale. if your interested in trying that in the next few weeks let me know. I usually have a spot or 2 on my boat.

[ORFishingNoob]

I'M So Down ! Went again today to the tualatin... that river + me = no love ! Fished with a buddy for 3 hours, not a bite LOL, i think i have the right gear now for trout, but the tualatin seems to be my kryptonite.

I'm busy this week, but next week wide open, let me know what day your going, and i'll plan on joining !

[Hondo]

FYI: I don't think the Tualatin is open for trout fishing until this Saturday...probably a moot point, as it is so close to Saturday now, but I thought I'd let you know. You can download the 2009 regs booklet at http://www.dfw.state.or.us/fish/docs/2009_oregon_sport_fishing_regs.pdf



Good luck with those fishies! :)

[gweedo#1]

FYI: I don't think the Tualatin is open for trout fishing until this Saturday...probably a moot point, as it is so close to Saturday now, but I thought I'd let you know. You can download the 2009 regs booklet at http://www.dfw.state.or.us/fish/docs/2009_oregon_sport_fishing_regs.pdf



Good luck with those fishies! :)
And I think there is a bait resriction fishing for trout in the tualiton...
I know of someone getting ticketed last year for using bait in the upper T.

[ORFishingNoob]

Had no luck again on the tualatin... But sunday we are gonna go land some monster trout on the carver, got my fish hunter ready for the epic adventure !
My Neighbor just got a Sponsorship (the pro bass guy) from Bio Line... And hooked me up with tons of free 210 yard samples, Huray Bio Degradable line !

[Billy Boy]

Have you thought about catching shad? They fight pretty hard especially on a light pole. Looks like the shad run is getting very close to being here (on the Willamet near Oregon City). Do an ifish search for shad. You should see lots of information. Many fisherman don't eat shad but they are still fun and easy to catch.

[ORFishingNoob]

SUCCESS !!! Me and a buddy and his girl went to Lake Merwin Today. Lots of other people were catching lots of Kokanee, but we only catch this fish (see below) I didn't know what it was, so we didn't keep them... i caught 8, they each caught 2, it was a blast !!!

http://i722.photobucket.com/albums/ww222/QO2009/IMG_4348.jpg

[mkwerx]

That fish is a ********* aka Northern Pikeminnow. I wouldn't keep 'em unless you need garden fertilizer.

Where on the Tualatin are you fishing? When I lived in Tigard and worked in West Linn I fished that river in various spots almost daily. I still try to hit it up at least a few times each year.

Check out http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=253710 for info on the Tualatin. I posted up my favorite easy access spots with tips on what to use/how to fish each one.

If you really want to get your fish fightin' on - try carp fishing. It's cheap, it's easy, and the carp are the biggest resident fish in the river, with fish in the 10+ lb range very common, and fish over 20lb possible.

Best carp rig I've ever tried - and the only way I fish carp now:

Peg a LARGE corkie 4-6 feet up from the end of your line (do this by inserting half of a round toothpick into the hole to peg the corkie so it won't slide up and down your line). Pick an easy-to-see color (don't go with black in other words - I like the half green/half orange or the sparkly pink ones or fire orange ones - they're easy to spot).

Tie a #6 egg hook (I like gami or eagle claw, but prefer the gami's) to the main line.

That's it. That's the entire rig. I fish ultra light spinning rods with 4lb line mostly. Sometimes I'll use a reel that's spooled with 6lb, but very rarely.

Now for bait - sandwhich bread. No kidding. White bread is OK, but I prefer using wheat or multi-grain bread. When I was fishing the Tualatin regularly, I'd hit up Albertson's or Safeway before getting to the river, and looking for bargain bread. Sometimes their expensive stuff goes on sale for $1 or $2.

When you tear off a piece of bread (I like to use up the outside edges first, as the crust helps keep things in place on the hook) about the size of a quarter. Press this into a firmly packed ball with your fingers, then insert your hook. Reform the ball around the hook, covering it completely.

Lob the bait out - when fishing the tualatin you don't need or WANT to hit the middle of the river in most places - 10-15 feet from the bank is more than enough, especially in the slow current areas.

Now the easy part - leave some slack in the line, but not a lot - you want to be able to set the hook, but you don't want a tight line to your bobber (the corkie). Sit back and watch that corkie.

When a fish takes the bait, the corkie will start to bob, and 9 times out of 10 it will start moving upstream against the current, or straight out across the current (if you're fishing a river. A pond/lake the corkie could move in any direction). When the corkie starts moving (not just bobbing in place) SET THE HOOK.

You remembered to set your drag BEFORE you started fishing, right? I hope so, because even a baby carp will snap the line if you have it cranked down too tight. A properly set drag will slip when you pull on the line with the rod bowed, but don't set it too light either, or you'll wind up spooled even with a small fish. You should be able to pull line straight off the reel, but it should require a bit of effort (without snapping the line!).

Fishing the tualatin with the above method while targeting carp, I've also caught a lot of ********* (they're respectable fighters in their own right, but I wouldn't eat one), the oddball bass, and yellow perch.

If you don't get any hits on the bread after an hour of fishing, switch it up - try canned corn. Put enough kernels on the hook to completely cover the hook. Fish the same way you did the bread.

You could also try worms - more fish will eat the worms more readily than the corn or bread - but the carp love the bread and corn.

[PhoenixAlien]

Just another quick add to all the great post here already. When trolling I like to use the frog pattern triple teazer lure. The frog pattern color is a dark/forest green with yellow dots on it that usually has black dots inside the yellow dots. Just in case you didn't know. :twocents:

[ORFishingNoob]

Some serious awesome reply's ! Can't wait to slay some carp on the Tualatin next week...

Meanwhile, i do wanna start catching eatable fish ! So anyone know some excellent threads, or pictures they have of a good kokanee setup ? I think i wanna learn this asap, and trolling tech's, so i can start landing dinner, instead of just another squa !

[Oregonism]

You should try fishing on the deschutes with a silver flatfish while everyone else gets nothing on stonefly nymphs... I hear that works well :whistle:

Lol, jk. We should try our luck at steelheading. That fish I had on last night gave me the itch and I can think of nothing but taking one on a fly.

[ORFishingNoob]

Speaking of which cousin of mine.
http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo229/ORMOTO/IMG_4550.jpg

[Da Bank Maggot]

If I were you, I'd head on up to Clear Lake this weekend...just opened and stocked this week.

On calm days, one of my favorite rigs is a small hook, light leader and no weight. Put a worm on, throw it out and let it sink naturally.

When fishing for trout, either by this method or floating power bait/ a worm off the bottom, if you don't get a hit after a few minutes, reel in about five or six turns and then stop. Very often, a little movement is all it takes to coax a strike.

[ifish4king]

That fish is a ********* aka Northern Pikeminnow. I wouldn't keep 'em unless you need garden fertilizer.

Where on the Tualatin are you fishing? When I lived in Tigard and worked in West Linn I fished that river in various spots almost daily. I still try to hit it up at least a few times each year.

Check out http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=253710 for info on the Tualatin. I posted up my favorite easy access spots with tips on what to use/how to fish each one.

If you really want to get your fish fightin' on - try carp fishing. It's cheap, it's easy, and the carp are the biggest resident fish in the river, with fish in the 10+ lb range very common, and fish over 20lb possible.

Best carp rig I've ever tried - and the only way I fish carp now:

Peg a LARGE corkie 4-6 feet up from the end of your line (do this by inserting half of a round toothpick into the hole to peg the corkie so it won't slide up and down your line). Pick an easy-to-see color (don't go with black in other words - I like the half green/half orange or the sparkly pink ones or fire orange ones - they're easy to spot).

Tie a #6 egg hook (I like gami or eagle claw, but prefer the gami's) to the main line.

That's it. That's the entire rig. I fish ultra light spinning rods with 4lb line mostly. Sometimes I'll use a reel that's spooled with 6lb, but very rarely.

Now for bait - sandwhich bread. No kidding. White bread is OK, but I prefer using wheat or multi-grain bread. When I was fishing the Tualatin regularly, I'd hit up Albertson's or Safeway before getting to the river, and looking for bargain bread. Sometimes their expensive stuff goes on sale for $1 or $2.

When you tear off a piece of bread (I like to use up the outside edges first, as the crust helps keep things in place on the hook) about the size of a quarter. Press this into a firmly packed ball with your fingers, then insert your hook. Reform the ball around the hook, covering it completely.

Lob the bait out - when fishing the tualatin you don't need or WANT to hit the middle of the river in most places - 10-15 feet from the bank is more than enough, especially in the slow current areas.

Now the easy part - leave some slack in the line, but not a lot - you want to be able to set the hook, but you don't want a tight line to your bobber (the corkie). Sit back and watch that corkie.

When a fish takes the bait, the corkie will start to bob, and 9 times out of 10 it will start moving upstream against the current, or straight out across the current (if you're fishing a river. A pond/lake the corkie could move in any direction). When the corkie starts moving (not just bobbing in place) SET THE HOOK.

You remembered to set your drag BEFORE you started fishing, right? I hope so, because even a baby carp will snap the line if you have it cranked down too tight. A properly set drag will slip when you pull on the line with the rod bowed, but don't set it too light either, or you'll wind up spooled even with a small fish. You should be able to pull line straight off the reel, but it should require a bit of effort (without snapping the line!).

Fishing the tualatin with the above method while targeting carp, I've also caught a lot of ********* (they're respectable fighters in their own right, but I wouldn't eat one), the oddball bass, and yellow perch.

If you don't get any hits on the bread after an hour of fishing, switch it up - try canned corn. Put enough kernels on the hook to completely cover the hook. Fish the same way you did the bread.

You could also try worms - more fish will eat the worms more readily than the corn or bread - but the carp love the bread and corn.

I also enjoy carp fishing but never seen a rig like yours before. You don't use any weights? Wouldn't the bread float somewhat? I guess you must fish in stagnant water w/ no flow. If flowing, the bread would definetly float.

[mkwerx]

I also enjoy carp fishing but never seen a rig like yours before. You don't use any weights? Wouldn't the bread float somewhat? I guess you must fish in stagnant water w/ no flow. If flowing, the bread would definetly float.



Ah, you would think the bread would float - BUT - when compressed into a firm ball around the hook, it is neutrally buoyant at best, and eventually sinks. Flowing water or still water - doesn't make a difference. I target slower waters because that's where I've usually found carp actively feeding.

Carp are a lot smarter and spookier than most people give them credit for - they can feel a hook and spit the bait before you can blink. They can feel weight on the line and they'll spit the bait with too much resistance.

One thing I look for when targeting carp is feeding fish - easy to find them. In clear water, they'll leave a muddy trail w/ bubbles. In stained water, you can still see a trail of bubbles as they are moving and feeding. When targeting actively feeding fish - I cast about 10 feet ahead of the fish. gentle lob, very little splash, usually won't scare the fish. If the bubbles pass the bait by, I'll wait a minute - usually feeding fish aren't alone. If after a minute or two and nothing after a feeder has gone by, reel in and cast again, or check bait. Sometimes carp can suck a bread ball off super gentle, or the bait comes off on it's own if you don't press it firmly onto the hook.

When I say press firmly - I mean that the bread, when compressed, feels similar to putty baits in firmness. You don't want air pockets, mash that bread HARD around the hook, covering the hook completely.

Also - carp are not strictly bottom feeders -they will hit surface food and suspended baits/lures, and I've watched schools of carp chase schools of small baitfish before. Quite a site. Carp are omnivores - they eat protien (bugs, fish, worms) veggies/fruits/nuts/sticks/grass/leaves. They're like a hungry hippie :D

Light line, light bait, light float and lightish drag - not so much that the fish runs the show, but not so tight as to snap off a good fish.

[ifish4king]

Ah, you would think the bread would float - BUT - when compressed into a firm ball around the hook, it is neutrally buoyant at best, and eventually sinks. Flowing water or still water - doesn't make a difference. I target slower waters because that's where I've usually found carp actively feeding.

Carp are a lot smarter and spookier than most people give them credit for - they can feel a hook and spit the bait before you can blink. They can feel weight on the line and they'll spit the bait with too much resistance.

One thing I look for when targeting carp is feeding fish - easy to find them. In clear water, they'll leave a muddy trail w/ bubbles. In stained water, you can still see a trail of bubbles as they are moving and feeding. When targeting actively feeding fish - I cast about 10 feet ahead of the fish. gentle lob, very little splash, usually won't scare the fish. If the bubbles pass the bait by, I'll wait a minute - usually feeding fish aren't alone. If after a minute or two and nothing after a feeder has gone by, reel in and cast again, or check bait. Sometimes carp can suck a bread ball off super gentle, or the bait comes off on it's own if you don't press it firmly onto the hook.

When I say press firmly - I mean that the bread, when compressed, feels similar to putty baits in firmness. You don't want air pockets, mash that bread HARD around the hook, covering the hook completely.

Also - carp are not strictly bottom feeders -they will hit surface food and suspended baits/lures, and I've watched schools of carp chase schools of small baitfish before. Quite a site. Carp are omnivores - they eat protien (bugs, fish, worms) veggies/fruits/nuts/sticks/grass/leaves. They're like a hungry hippie :D

Light line, light bait, light float and lightish drag - not so much that the fish runs the show, but not so tight as to snap off a good fish.

The carp I usually catch are feeding on bottom. If I'm close enough, I use very little weight or none at all. However, recently I've seen alot of carp "floating" at the top of the water just enjoying the sun. They sometime nibble on debris at the surface or move around at the top 2' of the water. How do you recommend targeting these fish?

[mkwerx]

The carp I usually catch are feeding on bottom. If I'm close enough, I use very little weight or none at all. However, recently I've seen alot of carp "floating" at the top of the water just enjoying the sun. They sometime nibble on debris at the surface or move around at the top 2' of the water. How do you recommend targeting these fish?



Surface feeding fish are usually feeding on insects or vegetation - so you'll have to either use a floating bait or flies. Now the later still eludes me - a fly caught carp - but there's lots of guys that have caught them on flies. Check the fly fishing board for more info on this. When the fish are looking up for food you've got to put your bait where they can see it.

[Doc_Rhen]

The carp I usually catch are feeding on bottom. If I'm close enough, I use very little weight or none at all. However, recently I've seen alot of carp "floating" at the top of the water just enjoying the sun. They sometime nibble on debris at the surface or move around at the top 2' of the water. How do you recommend targeting these fish?
I target these with a bow:D.