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Kokanee Slow
03-19-2009, 12:25 PM
I've been considering rebuilding the Wedding Ring Spinners I have with wire spines (thereby replacing the weaker mono they came with).
Has anyone had experience with this that they would care to share?
Dropshot
03-19-2009, 02:36 PM
When hooked kokes spin and contort like they are trying to turn into pretzels. Wire spine will give them some leverage as they twist up onto the lure and could result in pulling the hook out.
There is nothing wrong with using mono, I think the spool I am working off of now is 10lbs. Make sure you use a good clevis on the spinner blade to minimize line damage. I use the small white plastic clevis that allow me to change blade colors.
BobberAnn
03-19-2009, 02:37 PM
I use a lot of wedding rings that I re-build but never on a wire. I always add a glow bead though. Be interested how it works. Might it change some action by being heavy?:twocents:
I have rebuilt wedding ring spinners with wire
It worked great, but the wire I used was given to me by a freind who used to work for a spring mfg co and it was for building springs for ball point pens
I have no idea where to get it but it was incredibly flexible and would spring right back into shape when bent then released
When you made a tight loop on the end and wrapped it it stayed
Difficult to work with but amazing results
Wish I could get more
Silver Bullets
03-19-2009, 03:06 PM
I make my own wedding ring/spinner lures, and use 8lb test line with tandem snelled hooks for kokanee. Like Dropshot mentioned leverage is a factor, and in my opinion mono line will give the lure better action from the blade and dodger. Also, the corn helps give the spinner a bit of a wobble useing mono. Another thing to consider is the use of seperate beads instead of stacked beads for more action.
twisted lines
03-19-2009, 04:05 PM
I have made a lot of them I enjoyed it very much and they are easy to chang colors but have since cut them apart and tied them with mono, there is more action in the mono, and I don't think I ever did hook up with them on a wire. I say make a few but make more on the mono. TL
Splash
03-19-2009, 04:23 PM
I tie all mine on 8lb ultra green and keep some spare leaders handy to quickly retie any that get damaged while fishing. All are inspected during the off season and replaced as necessary.
StickFish
03-19-2009, 05:14 PM
There are some tied with wire in the tackle building forum
Kokanee Slow
03-19-2009, 05:42 PM
Thanks for the input, sounds like I should stick to mono.:cool:
ElkTalker
03-19-2009, 06:09 PM
Thanks for the input, sounds like I should stick to mono.:cool:
I think sticking with mono is a good idea.
I like 8#, I retie my favorite spinners between trip or about every 20 fish.
ET
honker1
03-19-2009, 07:03 PM
I've tie my with mono and have suffered alot of breakage. I am going to try the wire. By reading this thread, I see I should be retieing after several hours of use. I never considered this a maintenance item, but them that know more then me, have convinced me to pay more attention to my setups. I still want to try the wire, but will try a variation of wire for the clevis, which I think is doing most of the damage to the mono, beads and wedding rings for the hook area.:twocents:
I keep several pretied hooks in the tackle box. When it comes to replacing the mono, I use a long thin sewing needle that I thread the with the new line. If you are very VERY careful, you can run the needle through the beeds and clevis with the old mono still in place, then after you get the entire wedding ring slid onto both the old and the new mono, you can pull the old mono out and your done. Make for a quick change if the boat aint rocking too much.:twocents:
Jimmy
03-20-2009, 07:47 AM
For stocker rainbows I cant think of a better lure then a wedding ring. Green was always my favorite. The problem we had was the fishing line they used for the lure was to thick. So we always retied the lures on 4lb test. Then we found the wedding rings on a wire and just used 4lb main line with a snap. This was when I fished South Twin and Blue lake. A few years ago. :D
Rick on Rogue
03-21-2009, 03:16 AM
http://www.ifish.net/gallery/data/500/12-21-08017.JPG
The ones in the upper left are my creations, and have not been tested yet. They will be hitting the water tomorrow and the next few weeks of testing will tell me if there will be more made. I have always been a little afraid of the wire clevises wearing the mono. I guess that is why the posters above suggest rebuilding often.
Splash
03-21-2009, 07:40 AM
The folded clevises are best ones to use on mono, aside from the plastic ones you change the blade with. The one piece units with the holes drilled in them often have burrs that will cut your line quickly and are best used on wire.
ElkTalker
03-21-2009, 02:07 PM
The folded clevises are best ones to use on mono, aside from the plastic ones you change the blade with. The one piece units with the holes drilled in them often have burrs that will cut your line quickly and are best used on wire.
I also like the folded clevises better for mono line but I have never had much of a problem with my line breaking at the clevis. My problem area is the bottom hook, after about 20 fish I have had the bottom hooks break off.
Here is a pick of a spinner with a folded clevis. They are much wider at the point were the line goes through then a drilled clevis.
http://www.ifish.net/gallery/data/500/medium/Crescent_Lake_June_2008_162.jpg (http://www.ifish.net/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/79976/size/big/cat//ppuser/15535)
Gonzo
03-21-2009, 03:17 PM
http://www.ifish.net/gallery/data/500/12-21-08017.JPG
The ones in the upper left are my creations, and have not been tested yet. They will be hitting the water tomorrow and the next few weeks of testing will tell me if there will be more made. I have always been a little afraid of the wire clevises wearing the mono. I guess that is why the posters above suggest rebuilding often.
What size hook are you using it looks really big? Do you like bigger hooks compared to the stock hooks they usually come with?
P-ride
03-21-2009, 03:46 PM
I don't think there is anything wrong with wire spinners, but I do like flourocarbon leader for my wedding rings. I usually tie up a bunch then put them on foam rolls like leaders. I usually take a look at them after each fish or two and see if they need retying or when the bottom hook breaks off after landing a fish.
GraphiteZen
03-21-2009, 03:56 PM
Go to your local guitar shop and get .18 stainless steel guitar strings. That what I used on mine. They flex VERY easily and won't hold a bend. Guitar strings are built to withstand extremely high tension.
Rick on Rogue
03-22-2009, 04:01 AM
What size hook are you using it looks really big? Do you like bigger hooks compared to the stock hooks they usually come with?
Only the top left 4 are for trout all the others are for steelhead, thus the bigger hooks. I usually tie a leader to my wedding ring 12" to 14" then the hook.
Kokanee Slow
03-22-2009, 07:53 AM
Only the top left 4 are for trout all the others are for steelhead, thus the bigger hooks. I usually tie a leader to my wedding ring 12" to 14" then the hook.
Are you (Rick) saying you hang your hook 12-14" behind the wedding ring spinner?
Steve
Rick on Rogue
03-23-2009, 03:17 AM
Are you (Rick) saying you hang your hook 12-14" behind the wedding ring spinner?
Steve
http://www.ifish.net/gallery/data/500/100_0645.JPG
Yes, after the attractant (Ford Fender, or whatever you use), then 10 to 12 inches of line {this is usually the line that the wedding ring is made on}, then the wedding ring lure, then 10 to 12 inches (your choice of length) leader and then the hook. We use treble hooks if trolling power bait, or single hooks for worms. The hook in the photo is wrapped with some stuff to help keep the worm from sliding down the hook while trolling.
I was going to test out my wedding rings that I made in the first photo, with wire spines, but the snowstorm at Lost Creek lake prevented us from launching.