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Tulley
12-15-2008, 11:57 AM
I have never understood why garlic would be a scent that would attract fish. Does anyone know why it can work? Anyone swear by garlic scent?

FallRiverGuy
12-15-2008, 12:48 PM
I don't know why it works. Garlic is my number one kokanee scent.

fish-on-bend
12-15-2008, 01:34 PM
When my herring have been in the water for a while without a bite, a little garlic injected in the mouth often triggers a bite.

cimfl
12-15-2008, 03:34 PM
The best day I have ever had trout fishing, all the trout were caught with green garlic scented mellows tipped with worm......or the other way around.....anyway, I am sorry I can't suggest a reason why, but if it works, I am not going to question it. Sure seems like an unusual scent.......why not "Purex Bleach" scent?

eharris
12-15-2008, 04:35 PM
Maybe I should try Elizabeth Taylor's White Diamonds perfume. Don't laugh, it might just work.

Evan

nevermiss
12-15-2008, 06:08 PM
I like the taste of garlic myself, if properly used, but neither do I know why it's attractive to fish--but it sure is!

grsteelies
12-15-2008, 06:21 PM
There is no way steelhead like garlic whatsoever. I just can't recall what we soak our shrimp in that catch fish after fish. LOL! sorry for being coy. When I was a kid my mom would getmad because I would come home smells like a combination of nasty Zeke's cheese Garlic flavor and slimey hatchery trout.

Tulley
12-15-2008, 06:38 PM
It just seems strange to me...and what about Anise....whoever tried fishing with that first must have done it on a dare...

russ parker
12-15-2008, 08:17 PM
Maybe it has more to do with effectively covering up human scent from the handling of the lures, etc.

Dr Strangelove
12-15-2008, 09:19 PM
The reason garlic works so well is that it is composed of aromatic amines, cyclic molecules that escape as scent very readily. That is why when you cook garlic or hot peppers, they release pungent scent so quickly upon cooking. When these aromatic compounds are put in fish scent, they distribute quickly in the water, much faster than regular prey food's scent. Aromatic amines enter the fish's nostrils, and they trigger the brain to follow and feed if they like the scent, and scram if they don't, such as bear scent diverting running salmon. Since fish don't avoid garlic, it can only result in positive behavior ie feed, reproduce, or move.

This is also why a torn-up reused nightcrawler outcatches a fresh worm. It's leaking scent; both from it's innards and fish proteins derived from contact with the mucosa of feeding fish that causes other fish to competitively feed without hesitation. That "lucky plug" may have just the right action, but it is also covered in feeding fish spit. Try rubbing salmon slime on your Alvins; you'll see what I mean.

My all time Koke cure is garlic powder and Slamola, both loaded with nose wrinkling scent.

FallRiverGuy
12-16-2008, 07:41 AM
Maybe I should try a dash of putrescine or trimethyl amine?

I guess I still wonder why garlic. I understand the whole free flowing scent concept and that amines might be part of the trigger, but when have fish been sensitized to garlic such that it rings the dinner bell. Phytoplankton must leave some kind of scent trail in the water when there is a substantial population and maybe a by product of their metabolism is an aromatic amine?

Dr Strangelove
12-16-2008, 04:34 PM
Maybe I should try a dash of putrescine or trimethyl amine?

I guess I still wonder why garlic. I understand the whole free flowing scent concept and that amines might be part of the trigger, but when have fish been sensitized to garlic such that it rings the dinner bell. Phytoplankton must leave some kind of scent trail in the water when there is a substantial population and maybe a by product of their metabolism is an aromatic amine?


Ever tried Ultrabite? That's GOT to have putrescine in in. Doc

joemomma
12-17-2008, 05:39 PM
Ever tried Ultrabite? That's GOT to have putrescine in in. Doc

It sure has something they like!:thisbig:

happybrew
12-17-2008, 09:31 PM
When I was a kid I made my own garlic bait for trout. I used flour, water, salt, a bit of cotton to keep it together, and garlic powder and fished it on a hook with no weight in small streams. I caught a ton of trout in the Sierras with it. I abandoned it during my very long fly fishing stage, and forgot all about it until this thread.

I'll have to tip some kokanee lures and see how it does.

Dullhook
12-18-2008, 06:02 AM
I like to put garlic in my marinera sauce. Haven't tried Ultrabite yet but will keep that option open for down the road. :food:

Tulley
12-18-2008, 08:41 AM
I just picked up a book called "The complete guide to fishing kokanee" It has some good recipes in it for makeing scented corn...


Anyone on here have a secret scent recipe they are willing to share?

5-Cents
12-18-2008, 10:22 AM
That is one of the best explainations I have ever seen! :cheers:

The reason garlic works so well is that it is composed of aromatic amines, cyclic molecules that escape as scent very readily. That is why when you cook garlic or hot peppers, they release pungent scent so quickly upon cooking. When these aromatic compounds are put in fish scent, they distribute quickly in the water, much faster than regular prey food's scent. Aromatic amines enter the fish's nostrils, and they trigger the brain to follow and feed if they like the scent, and scram if they don't, such as bear scent diverting running salmon. Since fish don't avoid garlic, it can only result in positive behavior ie feed, reproduce, or move.

This is also why a torn-up reused nightcrawler outcatches a fresh worm. It's leaking scent; both from it's innards and fish proteins derived from contact with the mucosa of feeding fish that causes other fish to competitively feed without hesitation. That "lucky plug" may have just the right action, but it is also covered in feeding fish spit. Try rubbing salmon slime on your Alvins; you'll see what I mean.

My all time Koke cure is garlic powder and Slamola, both loaded with nose wrinkling scent.

Silver Bullets
12-19-2008, 05:59 AM
I just picked up a book called "The complete guide to fishing kokanee" It has some good recipes in it for makeing scented corn...


Anyone on here have a secret scent recipe they are willing to share?

I've had success with this one:
1. Pure Vanilla Extract
2. a few drops of Anise Plus
3. a sprinkle of Wizard Korn Magic
4. a sprinkle of Wizard Korn Dye

wapiteaser
12-21-2008, 10:23 PM
I read a report by a National Fisheries group that was doing a study on scents for fish feed. Molasses was the preferred scent over all others. Garlic was in the top five. Cheese was up there also. Anise was down near number 10 or lower.