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cj6530
11-29-2008, 07:30 PM
I am buying a new boat this winter and I have settled on the north river seahawk. The problem is I need to be able to tow a skier/tuber (for wife and daughter). Price isn't really the issue. My question is.....is the 21 ft model to big to be a pleasure cruser/ski boat for the rare time I have to do this. Right now I am leaning towards the 20ft model because it seems more versatile/practical for the fish and ski combo. Any thoughts?
damoperator
11-29-2008, 08:51 PM
I have a NR 20-Seahawk great boat with 115hp I would go at least 140/150hp to pull a water toy. That being said if you can afford it you would probly be happier with the 21 much heaver hull. Will need more hp and burn a little more fuel. It is good to avoid or delay the dread 2 footis. after a year or two. Over all I can't think of any thing that I do in my 20 that you could not do in the 21. Damoperator
BAP 62
11-30-2008, 09:05 AM
I have the 21 ft seahawk with a 150 Suzuki it will do 44+ MPH and has plenty of power. If you plan to use it in the ocean I would get the 21 heaver and different hull than the 20. Gas isn't bad with the 150 running at 4200 to 4500 RPM it gets 3.5 MPG. I don't know where you are located, but check out Maxxum Marine in Eugene 877-462-9986. They are graet to deel with.
Boats
11-30-2008, 06:02 PM
I had a 20' Seahawk with offshore braket and 150 Yami.
Used it to pull the kids once in awhile and took it offshore for coho. It was a fantastic boat.
I would agree that a 21 might be a better choice for more offshore fishing if you can take the extra expense.
I would not take a 20' with anything less than the 150 HP. Less is ok, but you won't be happy when wet and loaded. 150HP is perfect.
N/R Salmon slayer
11-30-2008, 06:34 PM
I have a 21' Commander and like yourself need to appease the family. I agree everyone above, go to the 21' you won't be sorry. By the time you throw a wake board in, and I tube the extra space would be appreciated.
Another thought to consideris, make sure (I'm not sure it's possible on the Seahawk), but go with the pylon attachement in the rear if it's an option. This allows you to add the pylon extension when boating for pleasure, versus having to go with a wakeboard tower, it gets in the way when fishing. The rope tow hook in tha back is very low and the rope gets sucked when turning sharply especially when tubing.
Hope that helps...
Reel Knotty
11-30-2008, 07:33 PM
I own a 2007 21' seahawk with a yami 150. I can make about 42 MPH with the welded top and a custom radar arch. I have pulled a tube, but nothing more than that at this time. I don't expect I would have an issue pulling a single skier, but you may want direct feedback on that.
If you are thinking of any offshore activities, I would look seriously at the 21'. Heavier hull, more aggresive entry on the bow, and a 70 gallon fuel tank (important if you want to go out for TUNA!).
I use mine for family fun, tubing, family fishing, anchor fishing (sturgeon/salmon/shad), and serious offshore fishing when the conditions are right.
I have a buddy with a 20' seahawk with the 150...his will scoot like nobody's business...about 50 MPH. Less room and a lighter boat.
Think about what activities you want to do with the boat, that will guide your decision. I have not regretted going 21' rather than 20'...now 21' vs 23' a little different story! That two-footitis is a @#$@#%!
Good luck. You will enjoy the boat!
cj6530
12-01-2008, 02:37 PM
I guess if seems like most 20ft Seahawk owners are very happy with their boats but all things being equal would rather have a 21ft model. Is this correct? I guess I just don't want to make the mistake of getting more boat than I need. Not so much because of price but because of the hassle factor of a larger heavier boat as well (loading/unloading, docking, beaching).
fishonthebrain
12-01-2008, 03:34 PM
I have an 07 21' Seahawk with a 175 suzuki, we use the boat for everything-tubing, wakeboarding, skiing, and fishing. We put a tower on our boat and it works great as an all-around boat, plus you can install rocket launchers on the tower. While on vacation, with another family this summer we would take our seahawk and leave their mastercraft behind when wakeboarding in the evening; there was more room for adults and kids (5-eight year olds). The boat had no problem pulling a 235lb wake boarder out of the hole with this load in it (Billy Chinook and Shasta). As far as beaching, handling and trailering the 21' is no problem by yourself. I would strongly recommend the 21' over the 20', due to the differences in the hulls. If you have any questions feel free to PM me.
I have an 07 20ft Seahawk with 150 HP Honda, I've had 7 adults on board and no problem plaining and pullling a tuber. I had Wetfly build my tower so it is very well built!!
My only complaint is the ride is not as good as the 21ft in heavy seas.
Other than that it works perfect for the Columbia, Willamette, lakes and offshore. I've had it 32 miles offshore but you pick your days.
It is equiped with all the latest Garmin GPS/fishfinder/radar and TR-1.
If you do go with the 21FT go with at least a 200 hp, my brother has the 21ft with 200 HP Suzuki and it is a perfect match.
Good luck on your decision.
cj6530
12-01-2008, 07:34 PM
I have an 07 20ft Seahawk with 150 HP Honda, I've had 7 adults on board and no problem plaining and pullling a tuber. I had Wetfly build my tower so it is very well built!!
My only complaint is the ride is not as good as the 21ft in heavy seas.
Other than that it works perfect for the Columbia, Willamette, lakes and offshore. I've had it 32 miles offshore but you pick your days.
It is equiped with all the latest Garmin GPS/fishfinder/radar and TR-1.
If you do go with the 21FT go with at least a 200 hp, my brother has the 21ft with 200 HP Suzuki and it is a perfect match.
Good luck on your decision.
Thanks for you replay. Can I ask why you bought the 20ft over the 21ft. was it just price or do you like it better for some applications?
In all honestly I did not want the bigger heavier boat.
It's just my wife and I and my thoughts were it would be easier for the two us to handle during launching. I drive an F350 crewcab and her parking skills are not there.. When it's the two us, we launch with a rope and I go park the truck, works out good. Plus the extra money I saved on the 20ft I spent on good Garmin electronics. For trolling with an offshore bracket, you will need the TR-1 Gold for the kicker.
Hellibut
12-01-2008, 08:34 PM
I have a 20' with a Yamaha 175 and an offshore bracket. Here's the long and short of it.... I would not take a 21' out in weather that I would not take my 20'. When it's time to make the go, no go, call 1' isn't going to make a bit of difference. I won't dispute the 21' being a little heavier but if your going to go with the an offshore bracket save your money. Instead get a 175 hp and the air ride custom seats. They are a must. I ordered a 150hp with my boat but something went very wrong with it and after 2 months they offered me a 175 even up which is day and night difference. I can bounce a slalom skier out of the water in a second and go fast enough to make it a little bit scary. Good luck and have a blast with it.
Jason S
12-01-2008, 09:18 PM
I have a 20 With a Yami 150. Yup goes to beat heck. Almost ticks 50 and thats with a couple guys in the boat. Barewest Wakeboard Tower. My kid can do amazing things off of the wake of this boat. We load her up with 6 adult sized people and spend a long day on the lake lots of time in the summer. So this would be the minimum you would want to go.
Mine is an 07. Wish I would have taken the advice and bought bigger. Found Tuna fishing last year. While mine is about what I would call the bare minimum to tuna fish from I wish I would have got a 21/22/23 size range.
Here's mine.
http://www.ifish.net/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_01811.JPG
fish junky
12-01-2008, 09:21 PM
I am selling my 21 ft NR. I know it would pull a tube or a skier.
http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=217154&highlight=2007+north+river+seahawk
I am selling my 21 ft NR. I know it would pull a tube or a skier.
http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t=217154&highlight=2007+north+river+seahawk
This is a very nice boat for sure.
I really like that you took out one of the seats and replaced it with a cooler and seat cushion.
Can you PM me on the details of that installation?
Thank you
Orville Burlison
Tacklebuster
12-02-2008, 08:34 AM
1 foot.
Won't even notice a difference lanching etc.
1 foot.
Huge difference on the offshore aspect. Wider, more freeboard, heavy duty and that 1 foot makes a world of difference.
RiverJohn
12-02-2008, 09:31 AM
I have a 18.6 Seahawk w/115 Yami 100% fine for fishing, underpowered for skiing.
If skiing is part of your agenda...
18.6' go 150
20' or bigger go 200
Now if you just want to pull kids on tubes etc... go down a notch.
You will be quite please with you NR Seahawk - I have winter fishing withdrawls thinking about spring & summer.
**The way "fishjunkie" has equipped his 21 is awsome. BTW the 21' has 5 inches of additional depth and is truley a much bigger boat than the 20'. Its all decided by what a guy really needs.
RiverJohn
12-02-2008, 09:37 AM
In all honestly I did not want the bigger heavier boat.
It's just my wife and I and my thoughts were it would be easier for the two us to handle during launching. I drive an F350 crewcab and her parking skills are not there.. When it's the two us, we launch with a rope and I go park the truck, works out good. Plus the extra money I saved on the 20ft I spent on good Garmin electronics. For trolling with an offshore bracket, you will need the TR-1 Gold for the kicker.
Is there any way you could give me the F350 ? :D
RiverJohn
12-02-2008, 09:40 AM
I guess if seems like most 20ft Seahawk owners are very happy with their boats but all things being equal would rather have a 21ft model. Is this correct? I guess I just don't want to make the mistake of getting more boat than I need. Not so much because of price but because of the hassle factor of a larger heavier boat as well (loading/unloading, docking, beaching).
CJ
If you are not going in the salt outside of the bay. You do not really "need" a 21' imo. I do fine in any water but the great wide open ocean & with a 18.6 with offshore bracket - they are roomy for 18.6.
:twocents:
Jason S
12-02-2008, 11:23 AM
I have a 18.6 Seahawk w/115 Yami 100% fine for fishing, underpowered for skiing.
If skiing is part of your agenda...
18.6' go 150
20' or bigger go 200
Now if you just want to pull kids on tubes etc... go down a notch.
You will be quite please with you NR Seahawk - I have winter fishing withdrawls thinking about spring & summer.
**The way "fishjunkie" has equipped his 21 is awsome. BTW the 21' has 5 inches of additional depth and is truley a much bigger boat than the 20'. Its all decided by what a guy really needs.
Having a 6'5" son, that has a bunch of friends just as big as him I know a 150 will pull a skier propped correctly (I run a Yamaha 14 1/4" X 17P stainless for lake play 46MPH tops with this prop, but will do it with 6 adults in the boat). But then again who waterskis today. More Wakeboarding. Speed is only 18(beginnier)-22(for big air tricks) for wakeboarding. Pulls three person tube just fine. Like I said a 20 with a 150 will run 50MPH.
RiverJohn
12-02-2008, 12:06 PM
Having a 6'5" son, that has a bunch of friends just as big as him I know a 150 will pull a skier propped correctly (I run a Yamaha 14 1/4" X 17P stainless for lake play 46MPH tops with this prop, but will do it with 6 adults in the boat). But then again who waterskis today. More Wakeboarding. Speed is only 18(beginnier)-22(for big air tricks) for wakeboarding. Pulls three person tube just fine. Like I said a 20 with a 150 will run 50MPH.
Great point -
I went economy & still would all over again. :excited:
I kept trying to run out my gas, so I could put in my stabil. Took forever to get to a near empty tank. Gotta love it.
Its hard to not enjoy NR.
ICHTHYDEMON
12-02-2008, 02:53 PM
I wanted the 21,but don't have the garage door height to go more than 20.
The 20 hasn't been a dissapointment at all. I have an F150 and T8 on the back and like was mentioned the F150 is perfect.
I run a 15" pitched prop for playing around and can easily pull a skier,tuber,or wakeboarder even with a boat full of adults.
With a 17" prop I can tickle 50mph.
If I was going to buy a boat to do something the 20 can't do,I'd go right past the 21. Likely wouldn't even be a Seahawk at that point. Maybe the Seahawk O/S.
goatram
12-02-2008, 08:37 PM
The 20 hasn't been a dissapointment at all. I have an F150 and T8 on the back and like was mentioned the F150 is perfect.
If I was going to buy a boat to do something the 20 can't do,I'd go right past the 21. Likely wouldn't even be a Seahawk at that point. Maybe the Seahawk O/S.
If we only had a unlimited check book to buy our toys. That would be heaven and hell. Heaven to own every thing you thought you needed and the Hell would be the upkeep:twocents:
Highmark
12-06-2008, 06:37 AM
I have most likely one of the last 22 ft NR OS that have been produces. It's great. It will do everything.and then some. No regrets on it at all.
The ride is over the top. it has ample room. I fish in all waters. From 60 miles out to lake fishing.it pulls good and gets fair mileage with a 225 yam.it will do 45 flat out and troll at .5. I have it set up with the TR-1 gladiator with kicker tied to the main. When other boats are running in. this boat is still fishing.
I have two guys that fish with me a lot. they both have there own boats. one is a Alumaweld Deep v something. and the other runs a Hughcraft both are 21 22 ft.
Running out for Halibut 2 years back we all left the dock same time. I was fishing an hr before either one got there. it was a little rough that day. they both say the same thing. we got the wrong boat. :D So choose wisely.
HM
If I was going to buy a boat to do something the 20 can't do,I'd go right past the 21. Likely wouldn't even be a Seahawk at that point. Maybe the Seahawk O/S.[/quote]