2 pole proposal

[joemomma]

Just picked this up off the main board, there might be a 2 pole proposal from the odfw, coming up for lakes and reservoirs, you might have to pay a little extra, what are your thoughts? I'v done it in canada years a go fishing for kamloops and it was kinda fun! Great way to test gear out and see what is working!

[capron6]

You get my vote for that one. I would love to see the opportunity available to use a second rod. California has had it for some time and I think the cost is around $12 additional for the year. Well worth it in my book! You are still only allowed one limit whether you use one rod or a dozen.

[FshnFool]

When I lived in Texas you were allowed three rods at no additional cost. IMO most of the time when fish are biting good one person cant keep up with 2 rods anyways. While yes it is nice to scout what kind of bait or gear is working I am just not sure it is worth the additional cost. Most times I go out trout fishing I limit out pretty quickly using one rod so I don't see the point in paying for two. My :twocents:

Matt

[rum runner]

IMO most of the time when fish are biting good one person cant keep up with 2 rods anyways.


Key word here is when biting good.... I say the more rods the merrier. Make it available and if you don't want to use 2 rods nobody is going to force you to do so.

[marys netter]

Camp in the desert in central AZ in winter fish with 2 poles[ wife has 2 also] troll for crappie much fun,Az 2 pole only $6.00 extra. Bass fishin with 2 poles is kinda hard casting cranks with both hands but hey what are challenges for when your'e fishin??:meme:
P.S. Wonder how many anchor[no offence:D ] fish with the dog's or the cat's or just a plain ole meat pole?
All that matters really is the daily limit!!:cool:
Dave

[joemomma]

I never thought of that (well I have in my younger days) but a pole for the dog!:D He doe's everything else, keeps me company, listens to my outlandish fish storys, steals dougnuts, licks my face, when I cracker a nice one! And occasionally throws up from bow to stern! Now he could fish!:wink:

[trollin4trout]

never seemed reasonable to not allow this- now it seems unreasonable to rake us over the coals for the opportunity- $25? Not likely- half that would be tempting.

[russ parker]

Having fished 2 derbys at Shasta with 2-poles it is really hard to have just 1 here in Oregon. I love to mix it up and try different things so I would welcome 2-pole fishing here, even if it cost extra.

[Lundman]

Utah has just gone state wide last year for all lakes & reservoirs with the second pole permit - cost $15 per year. It was allowed for only 4 reserviors 2 years ago and since it had no impact of those fisheries it was expanded this year.

For the trollers it's been great - well worth the cost to be able to have out two poles with crankbaits, spoons, or spinners.

For float tubers (big here in Utah) it's also been a winner - most will have a bobber & bait out on one line and cast with cranks, spinners, etc. with the other.

Even for the bank tanglers the second pole has been a winner.

PS... for all you Flaming Gorge fisherman - Wyoming side two poles are standard with a license..

[=opportunityfishin]

All for it. :meme: I grew up in Michigan and two rods were allowed and three on the big lakes, now they are trying to make three everywhere legal. I fished cali a lot and they have a two rod stamp. I also fished the oceans a far amount, both Oregon and off Key West, Fl and was used to at least two rods most of my life. Then I moved to Oregon, where every few miles of one river the regs change (or so it seems) and two rods are not allowed. I thought it was crazy, at least allow it and even charge for it a little extra revenue. Like mentioned previously a great way to see what they are hitting on. Do the kokes want the orange and green wedding ring or the pink and red? 20ft or 25ft? endless possibilities and it does not affect the fishing since the limits do not change. Come on if it only takes half the time to catch limits then boat pressure would be reduced although it would make watching the ramps less entertaining:p

[PRINCEMASTER]

I grew up in Michigan also where 2 poles is the norm. I often jig fished for walleye with 2 and is easier when i decide to go by myself to use 2. The only downside i see to this is for the bankies who have limited room to fish. When we used downriggers there would be 2 rods....one on the ball and the other with a spoon on a slider.

[adobe wall]

I grew up in NC, which has no limit on the number of rods that can be fished. I'd honestly never heard of such a restriction and was absolutely dumbfounded when I got out here and had to fish one rod.

I completely understand the restriction for the rivers. Multiple rods would really stack the odds and have the quotas met much faster.

For lakes? It should be legal with no fundraising attached to it. I've fished 6 rods solo plenty of times and have seen boats crappie fishing that looked like pincushions.

regards, aw

[FallRiverGuy]

The sooner the better.

[Don Fischer]

This is no more than a license fee hike desguised. In a few years, they'll drop the fee for two rods and raise the license fee to the higher fee. Then they'll tell you you can fish with two rods for free! What a bunch of BS!

[JD77]

Fishing 2 rods was hard. I couldn't do it very effectively. I had a dry on one line (in Candada) and fished a nymph. It seemed like over and over I would find a fish on the rod I wasn't fishing but by the time I grabbed it, it was over. Probably looked pretty funny.

[chukardave1]

I am all for it. Got to pay play with anything these days so cost is a minor concern. Bring it on. I wrote the ODFW yesterday and expressed my opinion on their proposal. Would recommend people shooting them an email iodfw.commission@coho2.dfw.state.or.us if you are in favor, or not. I would paste a link but I am a computer moron. Wait I think I did it, Maybe?

[wedgeman]

this is one of the best proposals I've heard. This whould be awsome for guys that troll.

[deeptrout]

I wonder if having two poles would mean getting license checked more often? If anyone can legally run two rods, lots of us will without the extra rod license. The law will probably be more inclined to spot check on people with two rods than those with just a single. Unless it is made a part of the standard license, the state doesn't have the manpower to enforce it and I don't want to be a victim of their misguided attempts. Sounds like passing on this one will be an opportunity to save the money and not have to deal with as many overzealous volunteer water cops. thats for me!

[Triple Threat]

Thanks for the link chukardave. I just wrote them in support of the 2 rod proposal.

[joemomma]

Thanks for the link chukardave. I just wrote them in support of the 2 rod proposal.


Me too!

[Snapset]

Me 3

[FallRiverGuy]

Sent.

[SCOOTA]

Im in favor

sent in my :twocents: worth

[THE KIWANDA KID]

2 poles huh? Ok fine, everybody get your extra pole and I get to fish out of my drift boat on the Deschutes. Fair enough? :shrug:

[Fatdad]

I'm for it, I just don't see why we have to pay for it.

[Jet Drifter]

I'm for it, I just don't see why we have to pay for it.
:yeahthat:

[marshworm]

Two poles are fine. And yes its another way of the odfw getting more funds. Please remember the number of fishing and hunting licenses sold is not increasing when the cost of management goes up yeartly. Better we pay, if we choose to, a little extra for the second pole than to have them increasing our taxes to manage the sport we all love. Look at it as a user fee and it will go down better. If you go fishing 10 times a year and it costs $25 for a second pole license thats an extra $2.50 a trip. Give up just one cold beer 10 times a year and you break even!

[Half fast Toyn]

Im wondering why we should stop at 2 poles? Im thinking 6... at least 4. That would be 4 times the revenue for the state of only 1 rod. Dont limit the possibilities by thinking small.

Im thinkin 4-6 rods evenly spaced out 10 feet apart at Junction City Ponds..... or Adair ponds..... or mouth of the Clackamas... or across the face of Detroit dam would be just the ticket. And imagine the fishing at Diamond... anchored up at the South end, 2 rods on the bottom fishing powerbait, 1 bobber rod and 1 rod fly fishing.

For boat fishing, running 4 full steemers off the downriggers in Odell, Crescent, Cultis, Timothy, or Green Peter.... WOW. All my buddies have boats so we dont have to fish together anymore... just pepper the lake with bait and bling.

If I sign a 2 pole proposal maybe ODFW will think that is ALL I want. Lets get a 6 rod proposal started and they might give us 4.

[FallRiverGuy]

I have seen fishing shows from the Great Lakes and they run a bank of downriggers off the back of their boats. Seems to work for them.

I guess I don't understand why this is a bad idea. If it based on the objection to paying extra, by all means don't buy it. But why prevent others from doing so?

[jzell]

Aren't they called rods?

I have rods in my shop in the basement.

1 + the wifes is enough for me to worry about.

15 days.

jz

[McSteelie]

I usually fish with my wife, daughter, wifes friend and her daughter. I spend most of my time being the guide and deck hand for 4 other people tying rigs, baiting hooks, removing fish, etc. That would be quite a trick to tend gear for 10 rods a trip instead of 5.

[Jet Drifter]

Yeah, I agree with multiple rods, (even more than two rods per license holder) too, HFT.
Law Enforcement and Fish & Game already has established the budget and procedures for securing compliance on the angling method including the proper number of rods per license holder, even when it is set to one rod. Law Enforcement is already counting rods per license holder. I don't see how erasing or changing the number of allowable rods per license holder increases the burden or cost of Angling Law Enforcement or Fish & Game administration.
Can we just leave the Angling Law Enforcement on Lakes to counting the bag? I don't care how you angle with a line from a Lake, (except for 'snagging'). I have never had my offering or presentation checked on a Lake. I always try to follow the fish and game rules what ever state I'm in.
I fish alone in Lakes. If multiple rods were allowed, I think that I would use multiple rods with different presentations to find what the fish are biting and then switch to that presentation on only one rod with the right presentation which will keep me busy anyway especially when I'm solo. I'll reach the desirable bag limit, increase my Recreational fishing success, head for the dock and reduce my gasoline consumption. If I catch too many fish per year, adjust the bag limit not the number of rods per license holder.
Let's keep it simple. :twocents: :cheers:

[TroutBass]

Sounds good to me, just a way for me to get home and start cooking faster.

[THE KIWANDA KID]

what exactly is the motivation for a second or even multiple rods?. Are you in a hurry to get back to the yard work you skipped out on? Just curious. I've done just fine and even been skunked with one rod all my life and I'm sure I could manage to be skunked with two. I dont see the appeal here. :twocents:

[JustSteve]

Am I just being overly dramatic when over fishing issues come to my mind? Almost every single poster here on IFish talks about how there are more fishermen out there every year and it gets more and more crowded, and the trophy days are more and more rare...won't a two rod proposal just simply double the pressure and catch amount?

Yes, I get the fact that there are large numbers of hatchery fish but I think we can all agree that our ultimate target are not cookie cutter "pellet heads" (not saying they are not targeted, just not the ULTIMATE target) but rather the lunker, brooder, pig, last year's or the year before's hold over, the "Jaws" of the trout pond.

PNW rivers and lakes used to be overflowing with fish. Through a variety of reasons, that is no longer the case. Do you all seriously believe that overfishing it not one of the many causes?

Can someone help me see the light and convince me it's not an oncoming train?

Steve

[jzell]

Dude......1 rod per dude!

[joemomma]

Dude......1 rod per dude!

And one for the dog!:wink:

[chukardave1]

Again, as stated on some many posts on this site about so many different topics. It is personal preference and a choice. If you don't want to do something(fish a certain way, use a certain kind of bait, whatever) then you choose not to do it, great. If someone else does want to fish a certain way, and that way falls within the law, then they can do as they please, go for it. It is just that simple, it is a choice.

[jzell]

If they allow you to fish 2 rods then you're MAYBE going to get to your limit faster.

2 rods won't change the bag limit for one person.

13 days,

jz

[THE KIWANDA KID]

Again, as stated on some many posts on this site about so many different topics. It is personal preference and a choice. If you don't want to do something(fish a certain way, use a certain kind of bait, whatever) then you choose not to do it, great. If someone else does want to fish a certain way, and that way falls within the law, then they can do as they please, go for it. It is just that simple, it is a choice.


Very good point CD, I wonder however how many sportsman voted in favor for the dog and bait ban. That too was a personal choice of what the law already allowed and it was overturned by the bunny huggers and possibly by fellow hunters personal beliefs or choice. Not so simple at all. I wonder why the state can propose this "increased method of harvest" but not have the nads to have told the bunny huggers to mind their own business regarding an already approved method of harvest. Yes it is about choice no argument there but is it the right choice for ALL of us?

[deeptrout]

2 rods for you, one for me, ten for some other guy, I really don't care about anything besides being out and enjoying the day. I find it really hard to enjoy the day when some badge sportin sherrif wanna be comes scootin over and wants me to pull up all my gear and prove that I have spent the necessary 25 bucks so I can fish in my 20k boat on his lake. I am pretty sure that having two rods out would be like trolling for water cops, I am willing to bet that if it gets passed into law, most of the checks done will be checks on boats with two rods out. Some cops are great, some fishermen are jerks, and vice versa. Its just a crap shoot I would rather not take, let me fish in peace, 1 rod or 2, 1 if it means I won't get to meet as many officers of the law.

[Dullhook]

It's a good idea and would be a fair option for anyone willing to shell out the extra bucks. For myself I figure that if the fishing is good one rod is plenty. At my age it's fun just being out on the water and enjoying the day. If it's really slow then ten rods wouldn't be enough. On a fixed income...reckon I'll just keep the extra pesos to put in the gas tank. :cheers:

[davidlee]

:twocents: It was available in CA when I was down there also. Was kinda nice being able to drop a powerbait rig in and instead of sitting there staring at it, picking up another pole and toss a lure.