NMEA 2000 engine plug in for Garmin 4212 and Yami F150?

[Reel Knotty]

Forgive me if I missed a post about this during my search.

Is there a NMEA 2000 compatible that will interface with the Yami F150 ECM and Garmin 4212? I would love to have this information on my MFD since I am looking at it all the time anyway!

Thanks in advance for you help.

[Highmark]

I do not know about garmin, But lowrance has a Ep-20 chip that interfaces
with engine data and fuel flow.

[OB1]

The Garmin 4212 has a nema 2000 interface. You might call Portland Marine Electronics at 503-922-3259. They installled my TR-1, they are a big Garmin dealer. Garmin's tech support number is 800-800-1020.

[Reel Knotty]

Thanks for the replies guys!

I called Garmin and asked about NMEA 2000 interface for my Engine and was told something was in the works, but they were not suppose to give me any details about non-released product. So I asked about when I should start looking for informatin and was told 3rd or 4th quarter this year. I was also told the interface from Lowrance would not work with the Garmin MFD (kinda what I expected).

I called Portland Marine Electronics and they are going to look into it and give me a call back. I will let you all know what I find out.

[lurking_out_loud]

I do not know about garmin, But lowrance has a EC 20 chip that interfaces
with engine data and fuel flow.

Actually the Lowrance to Yamaha interface is a $40.00 cable and works sweet on my 2005 F225. Lots of great info available including fuel flow and burn rate.

-LOL

[Highmark]

I have one, but have not installed it. I am unable to find the wire harness
to plug it in to. Can you help me on that. IE where is yours hooked at on the wiring harness.

HM



Actually the Lowrance to Yamaha interface is a $40.00 cable and works sweet on my 2005 F225. Lots of great info available including fuel flow and burn rate.

-LOL

[lurking_out_loud]

I have one, but have not installed it. I am undable to find the wire harness
to plug it in to. Can you help me on that. IE where is yours hooked at on the wiring harness.

HM

Yep. PM sent.

[Highmark]

Thanks for the PM. is that plug on the inside of the motor couling.?

Yep. PM sent.

[olybirds]

Thanks for the PM. is that plug on the inside of the motor couling.?
YUP

[olybirds]

garmin has a fuel flow sensor called a GFS 10. It doesnt hook up to your motor, but instead its in line on your fuel line. When connected to a PLoter/gps it will calculate your MPG and Burn rate, but it wont give all the other data that a EP-20 gives thru the ECM for lowrance users.

Garmin has only recently addopted the NMEA 2000 format, so im sure it wont be long before they start making other accessories.

[OB1]

My understanding from Portland Marine is that you will need two of the fuel flow sensors because 4 strokes have a return fuel line.

[lurking_out_loud]

My understanding from Portland Marine is that you will need two of the fuel flow sensors because 4 strokes have a return fuel line.

Huh???? I haven't seen that on any I've owned. I have a single flowscan sensor that is tied into a single line and is spot on for burn rate. With the Lowrance interface to the Yamaha engine controller, I can confirm that my fuel flow and burn rates line right up with only a single fuel line to the engine.

I would say definitively that there is no additional fuel return line from my engine back to the tank.

-lol

[Highmark]

The blue and white wires where there as you said. it snaped in great. I just need to pick up some more harness wire to tie it all together.
And I was looking at my 225, there is but one fuel line in to it..so
I would have agree with Lurking out loud on that. And this is not
a sensor. it's patch cable to pick up information that is produces on the engine. Unlike the flow rate sensors that get there data from the fuel
lines going in to the engine. this is taking information from the computer
on the engine itself. even better.

HM

My understanding from Portland Marine is that you will need two of the fuel flow sensors because 4 strokes have a return fuel line.

[lurking_out_loud]

The blue and white wires where there as you said. it snaped in great. I just need to pick up some more harness wire to tie it all together.
And I was looking at my 225, there is but one fuel line in to it..so
I would have agree with Lurking out loud on that. And this is not
a sensor. it's patch cable to pick up information that is produces on the engine. Unlike the flow rate sensors that get there data from the fuel
lines going in to the engine. this is taking information from the computer
on the engine itself. even better.

HM

How long a cable do you need? I've got a 15' one I could part with.

-LOL

[Highmark]

That is just about the right size. I have not done an actual measurement.
but 15 ft would or should do it. the patch wire comes all the way over
to the side of the transum and it's about 10 to 12 ft from the to the helm
so 15 ft should be fine. Fisherman has a 25ft harness. I was going over there this afternoon. but if you have one. Lets talk.

Herman

How long a cable do you need? I've got a 15' one I could part with.

-LOL

[chucks electric]

hello, i've installed a maretron compass ball with a 4012 display and after the initial calibration i had marpa ( target tracking ). so nmea 2000 works well with garmin. there are two types of nmea 2000 connectors, micro and mini. the micro is what the garmin uses. it does not screw on very well but does work. the nmea 2000 network cables are very specific on there power hookup.

engine ecu's produce the fuel flow rates based on rpm and injector pulse width. on marine engines the load is linear ( just keeps going up so air flow meters aren't necessary ). you will need the garmin CAN network cable kit and use the terminators.

the somethings in the works response translates into i don't know.
http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/GPSMAP4008_NMEA2000NetworkFundamentals.pdf

[Highmark]

I have installed all the required wiring. But I can not figure out how to
turn on the lowrance to display it. Any help would be great....
HM

Actually the Lowrance to Yamaha interface is a $40.00 cable and works sweet on my 2005 F225. Lots of great info available including fuel flow and burn rate.

-LOL

[lurking_out_loud]

I have installed all the required wiring. But I can not figure out how to
turn on the lowrance to display it. Any help would be great....
HM

PM sent.

-lol

[Highmark]

After getting everything working. This is great. This gives me all
sorts of data to play with. Engine temp, oil press. intake pressure. fuel flow, water temp, hr meter. lots of good information.
Thanks Mike.

Herman

[Reel Knotty]

So has anybody successfully hooked up a Garmin to a Yamaha motor? I have heard through a couple of different channels this is possible.

[Reel Knotty]

Thank you to all who helped me on this. I now have my Yami 150 talking to the Garmin through the NMEA 2000 network!

[Reel Knotty]

FYI to anyone looking at doing this: The lowrance NMEA 2000 cables, parts and pieces work with Garmin products as Lowrance follows the NMEA 2000 standard and Garmin uses the same NMEA 2000 connectors as Lowrance. It is an easy install and gives you water temperature, oil presssure, fuel consumption, RPM, and engine hours. If you have optional sensors installed, you will get more information. Jackrabbit marine has a great write up on the NMEA 2000 network and what interoperates.

Thank you to all who helped me on this. I now have my Yami 150 talking to the Garmin through the NMEA 2000 network!

[olybirds]

FYI to anyone looking at doing this: The lowrance NMEA 2000 cables, parts and pieces work with Garmin products as Lowrance follows the NMEA 2000 standard and Garmin uses the same NMEA 2000 connectors as Lowrance. It is an easy install and gives you water temperature, oil presssure, fuel consumption, RPM, and engine hours. If you have optional sensors installed, you will get more information. Jackrabbit marine has a great write up on the NMEA 2000 network and what interoperates.

So what you are saying is you have a lowrance Ep-20 running thru your Yamaha to your Garmin 4212?

If thats what you have, what color is the terminator on the end of the Lowrance cable? Blue or red?

Thx

[Reel Knotty]

So what you are saying is you have a lowrance Ep-20 running thru your Yamaha to your Garmin 4212?

If thats what you have, what color is the terminator on the end of the Lowrance cable? Blue or red?

Thx

The Red lowrance cabling. The blue won't work. Looking at the site where I bought the interface cable, yes, it is an Ep-20. Works like a charm!